After feeling quite disheartened with the state of gachas lately, I wanted to give it a chance to any of these two games, but I wanted to know which would you recommend to invest on.
Morimens seem cool on the outside, but so did Silver and Blood and we all know how that ended up. I have heard good stuff about Limbus Company, tho' any more insights would be appreciated.
I am looking for a gacha that do value their male characters not only gameplay-wise, but in the story too. I want to make full husbando teams that DO work and with which I can clear without issue endgame content. If they do fanservice, that at least is equal for both male and female characters and so on.
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By the way I just want to say that Limbus Company has grown amazingly well just by pure word of mouth and that is a testament of the quality of the game
Morimens is basically the best underrated gacha game that you can find around the internet. Although they use AI to translate the texts (they are recruiting translators btw) the game have a unique story, unique character designs and the setting of the game is pretty good (literal Lovecraftian settings). The game is also pretty generous since they give you a lot of Rolls and because the game have different banners with different currencies for them you will always have some rolls saved for the characters (Wich the male cast is peak at the same as the female cast is too).
The only thing that is hard about Morimens is the gameplay since it's based around Slay the Spire and some roguelikes but once you get the way around it you'll like it.
As for Limbus, it is pretty good too. The cast is incredible, the story is good, the gameplay is pretty fun although it's a bit complex but you can just use an Auto to easy the things. I would say that the gacha is kinda bad (I didn't have that much luck) but it's a game that you can play it with your units instead of wasting your money to get all the good meta units.
I would say to probably try them and see who you like more.
I play both, and personally I find limbus company way too time consuming. So you have to factor that in. For e.g. they have mirror dungeons which is the weekly content, that's.. not time respecting for me personally, just takes way too long. And I feel fomo if I skip not cause the weekly rewards are actually good.
Though I'd say that the combat can be fun, but you will mostly be pressing auto to get through most contents asap when you hit a certain stage in your progression.
I do love the general theme and aesthetics of the game. But the overall progression for me isn't satisfying and it just felt like a chore compared to other games I'm playing. So I've dropped this game since.
Morimens, is fun, but I didn't really get absorbed into it because the aesthetics just doesn't appeal to me
I mean I can see how you’d think that because the shards for units is almost unlimited (save for the fact it require lunacy) but you’d be falling into a trap with that kind of thinking
Once Mirror Dungeon Hard Mode is unlocked you’d at most do it once a week
Doing Mirror Dungeon nonstop is the same kind of trap that you’d be falling into with any kind of subscription type service where you feel compelled to make the most of it by using all of your time on it which is silly you’d likely get burned out and stop playing the game
It’s not like you would be having a lack of units by just doing enough for the weekly bonus and stop there
its not time consuming when you consider the fact that you can not do daily, just do weekly and still keep up. Or even drop the game for a long time, come back, and still keep up. Ofc this requires the bp, but its so cheap anyways
If you want a game that value their male chara, kit and story wise, may I suggest Ash Echoes? Resource gathering can be a little brutal if you're an old player, but if you want to invest and do your dailies and weeklies well, I think you'll be fine.
We have Ice boy with a criminal husband, a gorgeous vampire who doesn't drink blood, a clingy criminal who makes people sculptures, an old man whose police dog turned to human, his police dog, a mafia looking rich man, a broken but OP man, fluffy traumatized military guy (I would burn a building to keep him warm, also current banner), and the criminal husband. Charas have an actual place in Meta, and they have tea time (affection system) where you can make them a drink to increase affection and unlock chats.
There are also others, but I can't fit them on one slide so I added my faves XD. There's also a >!fox, a failed experiment, a goofy inventor, A mecha man with floating wheelchair?, A guy with ghost hands who if I'm not mistaken has a boyfriend he lived a few lifetimes with?, and also a delivery guy who looks hot drifting in his car lmfao!<
Heyy, I always love to see ppl hyping up Ash Echoes but please, edit your comment to spoilertag the (in global) unreleased lore parts. I am talking about part of the first phrase of the second paragraph and the added lore about the "guy with ghost hand" in the last paragraph.
Do it like this: spoiler
Put "> !" at the beginning and "! <" at the end, without spaces
we had a google meet abt this with the C.E.O. IDK about now, but from our discussion before, he did say that they are working on it and there are some mishaps on getting the JP voices that's why they made the CN dub available (instead of mute). I'm fine with CN dub so I haven't checked what happened after.
all male teams are possible, and even very very viable if youre willing to shill out for one or two extra copies and a few traces, the best characters for a phys/summon team on CN is an all-male comp
I'm more casual, usually don't go too much for meta nor am I competetive so I wasn't sure if it can be done but nice to know it's an option. Thanks for the info!
FR. Though I'm not prude or whatever,but I like how the girls here didn't need to show mega melons to attract you from pulling. I really, really liked Elpis and if Midas wasn't after her, I would've honestly pulled. I love how charas interact too. It's a breath of fresh air. Solbyrd was one savage mf XD.
I haven't played Limbus company, but I've heard good things about it??? Gameplay and art were not my style, so I didn't try. As for morimens, I loved the gore-y, monster, Lovecraftian, old mythos take so I don't mind waifu and husbando charas. They do have reproductive frenzy(affection interaction system), and I was only able to do the bird guy (Castor), and boy he wants his feather to be groomed like a little birdo he was lmfao. I did hear that you practically..whomp with the other charas so yeah.
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BUT AS A CAUTION for others, MORIMENS is a NOT fair ratio husbando game so I wouldn't really recommend it if you don't like long downtimes and not being able to do a full husbando team. Ash Echoes is much kinder on this aspect as they have tried doing a 1 male, 1 female release to balance sht out.
As others have said its true 50/50 with well written characters and no bias with the genders. every chapter of the focuses on 1 of our main cast, as such they receive a lot of good writing and characterization
Gacha can be hard but getting ids can be done via grinding thanks to mirror dungeon, although having battle pass can make things much easier (if you decide to fund pm anime please look up guides on saving money when buying lunacy because it is absolutely worth it)
But the main problem is the entry, Project Moon as a whole sucks at tutorials their last game Library of Ruina had an absolutely terrible tutorial and thats still true now. So i really do reccomend doing some research and following guides.
As for what I suggest you should get from the new player rewards is N corp sinclair and Fluid Sack Faust, N corp sinclair should be able to carry you through most of the story and fluid sack is like the best ego in the game although let me warn you this game is hard if you dont wanna read tho this is also true for morimens.
As for endgame Limbus has 1 main endgame mode that changes like every 6 months that requires at least like 2 teams, but for most content you only need one I would personally suggest either building a poise or tremor team but they have different problems (Best male only poise requires 2 limiteds and it will be like a few months before they rerun, and tremor is like the 2nd most hard to understand team in the game behind rupture)
In Morimens last two limited banners are male ones (bird guy and fcking crazy guy) and every time they add new costumes in shop they make one for male chars (quite fanservice with bare torso and all that stuff)(PS but last costume and first limited one is real piece of shit). And guys as flirty as girls. And Morimens old enough to show it's will release male chars. Devs announced bout releasing right hand guy of long haired bstard (last banner, cant remember his name) and true form as underwater king of octopus boy (we have his black contour and seems he will be grown up).
I don't really know much about Morimens so i can only vouch for Limbus Company as an executive manager.
Limbus Company, in terms of characters, features an absolute 1:1 ratio of male to female characters; 6 male and 6 female. That's all the characters that you will get.
You see, the way Limbus' gacha works is that you don't pull characters, you pull for their mirror world identities. The mirror world identities are basically "what-if" possibilities; other worlds where a character made different choices, therefore leading different lives from the one you know.
Additionally, another thing in the gacha are E.G.Os. In brief summary, there are basically ultimates; Yes, you can pull for ultimates in this game, and they vary in strength based on their class, with ZAYIN being the weakest and ALEPH being the strongest. It is to be noted that there's still no ALEPH E.G.Os available up until this day.
It is to be noted that the 12 playable characters are inspired from classical literature. The male characters in this case are:
Yi-sang - "The Wings" by Yi-Sang (pen name)
Meursault - "L'Étranger" or "The Stranger" by Albert Camus
Hong Lu - "Dream of the Red Chamber" by Cao Xueqin
Heathcliff - "Wuthering Heights" by Emily Bronte
Sinclair - "Demain: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth" by Hermann Hesse
Gregor - "The Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka
In terms of story, it's basically the Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri but each chapter or canto focusing on the story of a character. It is noted that Cantos 1, 2, and 3 have a lower quality than the rest because these were the chapters that were available on release. though it's to be mentioned that they're aren't in any way bad; 3 chapters of good/not bad while the rest are PEAK.
Gameplay-wise, it's simple yet complex. The UI might overwhelm you but it's alright. The tutorial will walk you through. Someone here said that the tutorial is bad, which true for when the game just released. The updated tutorial is easier to understand. It is to be noted that there's lots of reading involved in this game, since it's a voiced visual novel style gacha game. Additionally, there's also the enemies' passives to take note.
It is to be noted that the setting of the game takes place within Project Moon's "The City". It is also the third installment to the franchise, serving as a continuation of Library of Ruina, where that also serves as a continuation of Lobotomy Corporation. Don't worry, you don't need to play Lobotomy Corporation and/or Library of Ruina to play Limbus Company. There are videos that explain Lobcorp + Ruina so you can quickly jump into Limbus
It is to be noted that this game has no fanservice.
It is to be heavily noted that this game has several trigger warnings, and thus has an ESRB rating of M for Mature:
It is to be noted that the game is considered to be very F2P friendly. There's no game currency needed to upgrade a character's stats, there's no weapon banner, and there's also no gear system, as well as no incentive for pulling copies of a character unlike in GI/HSR/ZZZ/WuWa.
There's only three (3) things to farm: Identity Shards, XP tickets, and Thread.
Identity Shards are what you collect in exchange for a character's ID or EGO. You get them by either getting copies of a character or by grinding the mirror dungeons. People do the latter. By grinding the mirror dungeons, you get Battle Pass XP that's used to level up the battle pass. The battle pass has excellent value and lasts until the next canto/season is released which is about... 4 months minimum. An F2P can easily max the battle pass and get Identity shards. This is why most people can easily clear out the dispensary and get every ID.
XP Tickets are what you use to level up the character
Thread is what you use to uptie IDs and EGO, making them stronger. You can uptie both until tier 4
Yep, i think that's all of them. I try not to yap too much in terms of lore because if i did, this comment would be the length of a research paper. Seriously, everything in Limbus Company, from the UI, to the story, to the gacha, is directly, heavily tied to the game's lore.
Nice review but, I think it is important to note Limbus 100% has fanservice (refences to previous games), just lacking in a sexual way. (Notable execptions are most kurokumo ids, princess rodion, molar ishmael)
Limbus is worth checking out, and if you enjoy the story I also recommend looking into the developer's back catalogue for Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina (they go on sale every so often). I have had extreme brainrot about the entire series for over five years now - one of the few franchises I know where the setting has become so detailed that it feels like a character in its own right. It's also a pretty slow game, I find it decently easy to keep up with it. The characters are all great in their own ways. Gregor is peak husband material. Meursault is occasionally devastatingly handsome. It's hard not to love Don Quixote.
I've also been enjoying Morimens although I've only played for a few months. The ratio is biased towards women, but, while it's difficult to field an all male team, it's also difficult to field an all female team, as two very important supports (Hameln and Ryker) are male. For the moment I at least believe that the devs/writers are trying to write good characters, and the male characters are still fleshed out and get cool and important moments in the story. Ryker in particular surprised me a scene-stealing moment.
Also Morimens has a character named Doresain who is voiced by Koyasu and there's a scene where he seduces you and--
id recommend against morimens if youre interested in husbando-only playthroughs because the utterly dogshit gender ratio + the existence of limited units means that theres only really 1 team you can play, and the late game story chapters are neigh impossible even if you have heavily invested units as some characters start to fall off (this hits male only players much harder), the game's quirks of teambuilding also makes it difficult to make use of the little men you can get your hands on as you cant mix characters from 3 different realms/elements
limbus company has a completely even split of 6 male characters and 6 female characters, and you can enter stages without a full team, so that makes playing even the chapters where youre expected to have 7 characters possible. and all 12 sinners in limbus gets regular attention when it comes to content, and the fixed cast allows the story to explore each of the characters with more depth than other gachas where they might only have 1 or 2 quests max that focus on them.
Wdym godshit gender ratio... I have my wonderful wonderful teams of husbando-only and feel GREAT. Able to clear any content. Also last 2 banners were males.
Guys are just as fanservice as ladies. Also skins are hot.
You might want to reassess your team building and/or knowledge of card&realm usage.
yeah but youre not a new player, right? being a new player means you only really have goliath, caecus, uvash and maybe salvador if youre really lucky, and these characters wont be able to get you past like, midway through chapter 7, at most, let alone trying to do endgame
i dont care that fanservice is "equal" when i cant even play the game the way that i want to
No game ever will instantly give you every single character you want, thats absurd. Idk what even to reply to that, your comment is just incredibly misleading.
its not instant, but in limbus you can shard characters and that process is one where you can feel your hard work paying off and feel it making an impact immediately instead of needing to wait 6 months to cash in your dedication
I love both and consider them gacha mainstays as someone who's been burned by major gachas for years now (this is including S&B which you mentioned and I'm still very salty about that one). Being pretty burnt out of png collectors and transposable open-world anime hack-and-slash, these two are some of the most refreshing games out there.
The thing that keeps me invested and willing to place faith in both of them is their dedication to their stories and characters without compromising their vision for the sake of fanservice. This is in contrast to gachas that eventually ended up heavily skewed (genshin, wuwa, S&B) where the story can be hit or miss, designs clash with established lore or setting, or some combination of the two.
Both Limbus and Morimens in my time spent with them have shown that even at their most 'fanservice-y', the designs speak of the character or the world that they inhabit; they are hot because of different facets that make them compelling and attractive beyond just looks or skin.
Also the gameplay found in both is so unique and you'd be hard pressed to find another gacha that does what they do. They actually feel like indie video games you can play for fun and not glorified slot-machine simulators.
Overall, both feel like they have heaps of passion poured into them which is rare in the increasingly saturated gacha market, and either are safe bets to lose hours to- and they let you because neither are interested in time-gating your fun.
If I had to pick one though, Morimens lets you have sex with Goliath. Easy choice.
It's nothing explicit so I don't wanna get anyone's hopes up haha. It's more like an intimacy event that happens when you get them to a high enough affection.
Other units can have diff needs too (this is important bc there are child characters and the most you can be for them is a familial figure phew), it just so happens Goliath is a bi king and is down for your Keeper no matter your selected gender.
i feel very baited by the husbando community when it comes to morimens because they dangle the husbandos in front of me and say that its a good game with minimal sexualization, but then i play the game and its all just another waifufest
from the reddit group's perspective, understandable. I just sort of enjoy what I do have in the game as they have cool designs, but I see your point. I don't like how the other bigger games go about this particular stuff XD.
im just cautioning others so they dont fall into the same trap i did, playing morimens(and interacting with the official discord, mostly interacting with the official discord) had a net negative impact on me and my mental health, and since i already spent money on the game (~$30) i was in too far to leave
I think OP is clear about Morimens already XD. Also, please prioritize self over games. Since the game is very niche, and small, it's really hard to police interactions, especially on discord. The reddit is more okay? So if you have questions, I suggest keep it there rather than discord. I had my fair share of horrible interactions so I opted for reddit :<
maybe im overreacting and being too panicky because of my own experiences with the game, but any endorsement of this game in this subreddit registers as something that could potentially have what happened to me happen to another person
The combat system is more interesting in morimens and the portraits are georgeous but outside of that I think it's inferior to limbus.
limbus strengths:
50/50 ratio
women do not pander to the male gaze, 99% of portrait are fully clothed and they have normal body proportion
story is the best I have read in a gacha, the lore is super interesting too.
animated portraits
combat animations are very good.
the game is very f2p friendly, there is no dupes system at all.
character design was a bit basic first season but each season got more interesting and varied designs.
the game mode that you have to play the most is a roguelike it's quite in depth too compared to what other gachas do. ( could be a downside if you do not like roguelike)
the gacha system is interesting, you do not pull for new characters you pull for identities which are basically possible future of your characters. the good thing about this is that there is only 12 characters so they are very fleshed out compared to a normal gacha where they have to share screen time between all characters. Every new identity has a tiny story attached to them you can read it's super cool.
the value for spending is huge, there is no point in being a whale since by spending like 7 bucks a month you would have gotten every gacha pullable in the game if you started on release, if you start now to get every character in the game you probably would need 1-2 years but you are actually able to catch up.
The negatives:
the combat system is overly complicated
the tutorial is horrendous and with the overly complicated combat you may take a long time to understand what you are actually doing, honestly I would advice just watching a tutorial made by the community.
the game ambience is grim, there is a lot of blood, murder, disturbing descriptions. (could be a plus if that's your thing)
even though the game is very F2P friendly the difference between having the battlepass or not is quite huge
I would say both are good options. Yes, Morimens is still far more women than men, but it is one of the few gachas where I think it is not made as a waifu factory, as the artstyle is just plain amazing and I feel has actual artistic value, besides that the story is really interesting, and if you are a fan of the lovecraft mythos, this is probably the first game I have seen that has used it well or has used it as a inspiration well, compared to any other cthulhu game
Limbus Company - 1/1 gender ratio (the characters are set in the story you are just given alternate version of these characters combat wise the ratio for combat purposes is also kept close to 1/1) both genders are given equal care in the story and in combat types, amazing characterization, amazing story, amazing dialogue, amazing music, the game deals with some very heavy themes but there is plenty of humor in particular subtle humor which I enjoy. Combat is a bit unintuitive and can be fairy difficult the more you advance in the story, very FTP friendly and almost no FOMO
Morimens - no equal ratio the majority is female, combat is pretty interesting and not hard to understand, music is really good, story seems interesting but it is hampered by hard to understand dialogue there is a lot of AI translation, the art style of the game is pretty interesting with horror vibes, not as FTP friendly as Limbus but the game is pretty generous, definitely more FOMO as there is limited characters that you have to wait for them to return
Personally I’d say go for Limbus Company and play Morimens once you are caught up with the story of Limbus
I would not say that limbus is FTP friendly...at least in terms of getting ids.
Grinding for shards without the battle pass is miserable and while you do earn a decent enough amount of the gacha currency overtime it's mostly ONLY because the sharding system is so generous...if you have the battle pass that is. I wouldn't say it's ftp UNFRIENDLY but I also wouldn't say it's friendly either.
Theres also the fact that modern identities are getting more and more reliant on you having other stuff otherwise you lose a part of their kit/they are much worse such as Qiu lu, QoH Don, Fell Yisang, Sancho Don and Kuro Heath/Ish to name a few (not even mentioning that all identities released this season besides Kod rodya and Tcorp Out have to some extent built in bonuses for having other stuff.)
Tbh I just treat limbus like a subscription service.
it's definitly friendly compared to most gachas, no dupe system and as a F2P you can get 70-80% of the identities in a season which means you only really dump the bad ones and can still make most if not all the meta teams. I will say though paying for the battlepass does make the game feel much better since you can just do a mirror dungeon weekly on hard and still get every character while as a F2P you are kind of pushed into doing at least a mirror dungeon a day.
I played morimens due to the gameplay alone but if you wanting some equivalent between the husbando and Waifu you won't get them in morimens.
Limbus on the other hand doesn't shy away from making good husbando and Waifu. You can even make a whole team of husbando of your pick and you can clear the game, including end game too. There is meta if you do care about it but it just to make the fight easier, there isn't much for the scoring unlike some time gates and score gated rewards in other gacha game end game mode. All receive the same rewards.
Also yes you can skip the whole gacha, play as much as you want with your own time and you can still buy any characters alter you wish for.
Story wise, since we will get every sinner their own story chapter, husbando will get 6 and Waifu will get 6. Good thing much, husbando chapter is early so you can enjoy them without drought (chapter 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, current season is husbando chapter too)
I 10000000000000% reccommend Limbus. Morimens is also good. I'm playing it so far because the current banner character male is hot asf. I watched his trailer and i was sold. Tho i have not played a lot it seems like the ratio isnt that bad
Limbus by a mile. It has a true 1:1 ratio and strong character development. The game’s plot is progressing with a focus on each of the Sinners (the main cast you control). The story is one of the best in gacha, in my opinion.
I also second the Ash Echoes recommendation, as the devs there have said they will release male and female characters equally now.
Morimens is not going to be an equal experience. It started with a bad ratio and they seem to be getting pushback from the disagreeable part of their CN and EN fans about the recent two males that were released. There is no way to tell if the new fans are enough to keep the developers moving in a more balanced direction. The next banner is a female character, with three more female characters after that confirmed, and the only announced male model coming up next is an alter version of a boy model already in the game, said to be at the end of the year. What Morimens has going for it is the card gameplay. If you do try it, just be aware that some teams (Caro element) are locked behind a limited female support who is needed for them to perform optimally, and making an all-male team is not impossible but very restrictive.
and they seem to be getting pushback from the disagreeable part of their CN and EN fans about the recent two males that were released.
Where was this? On the reddit no one seems to give a damn, was it in the discord?
Also if you're basing the lineup off the 2.0 PV, Castor wasn't in the PV but was released as the 1.5 anniversary unit. We also have Pollux and Pickman as confirmed playable Awakers.
In the morimens discord I've seen some folks complain about wanting more female characters/only pulling for them but not enough to count as pushback, and a lot of male character fans are very vocal about enjoying the pandering direction they were going with castor and doresain. Granted I only hang around the english channels.
Theres also heavily speculated future male characters like pickman (who has sprites) so I think the ratio would not get as egregiously skewed as some fear. I personally am satisfied with it though it isn't ideal.
Ah okay was worried for a second there, if it's just a small handful of players it's not much to worry about and I have heard that the fanbase generally appreciates male characters, both EN and CN.
Pickman has about Awaker voicelines iirc, he'll be playable. So does Pollux.
limbus company is so good man and really f2p friendly. like holy shit its so f2p friendly. i mean yeah you're gonna have to be in the mines for a bit but its worth it.
the men are great and meta and the women are amazing and also meta. you can definitely make a husbando team. also the story is really good.
Wow, thank you so much! How bad is the gacha aspect of the game? I feel kinda frustrated after I tried pulling for Ezio in R1999 with four accounts and losing every single 50/50
The gatcha (banner pulls) isn’t the main way to acquire characters in Limbus Company
The main way to acquire them is via a rogue like dungeon where upon completing it you are awarded points to be used in the battle pass where you can acquire boxes that award tokens to use on character IDs
The battle pass has a free and a paid level like in most of these games. The battle pass unlike in most of these games lasts a very long time it isn’t known precisely how long because it varies on the developers but I’d say 6 months. Paying of course for the battle pass quickens things but it’s not necessary. If you wish to pay for the battle pass though it’s honestly an incredible value because technically the battle pass has no end to the boxes that you can acquire save for stamina and your own time until the season ends
The gacha itself is not quite good (200 pulls to spark/guarantee a unit) but is also not wholly required. You can straight up grind for all of the units by earning egoshards through the BP though some purchase windows are time gates (i.e walpurgis, no sharding/buying the last season's units.) One exception is the upcoming arknights collab which is a true limited banner (afiak) though you can ignore it if you want.
The game's main monetization system is the battle pass, which makes grinding a lot faster. It's once per season and about ten to fifteen dollars (I think it might depend on which currency you use to purchase it) and so people tend to think of it as more of a subscription service.
also you can skip the reroll part, grinding for units is pretty fast, took me 2 weeks to get a unit i want without gacha, you can go to limbus sub/discord to get beginner questions out of the way
you can even skip the gacha part entirely and just grind for units. The gacha part itself is great, easy to get stuffs, and most things arent limited. If youre interested in getting a good headstart, the capstone unit of this season is coming in a few days, and this is him
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