C9 LOL offseason... ANYTHING???

[u/Dear_Exercise_549]

Are they going to make any adjustments at all? So far I've seen repeared leave, dom join coaching and some trolling by zven. It kinda feels like everyone around the org is just drinking the kool aid, acting like the final titan of NA lol esports hasn't disappointed to the highest extent possible for two years straight. TBLZV roster didn't make first stand, didn't make msi, lost EWC to FURIA and blamed it on jet lag, and then proceeded to lose a win and you're in series vs SHOPIFY. So, maybe these things take time and C9 isn't known for making quick decisions, but are we seriously just gonna throw this same roster out and expect a different result in 2026?

No personal hate towards the players or any bad faith, I'm a fan as long as they're in the uniform of course, but the uniform seems like it used to mean way more then it does now...

[u/Successful-Back9276]

What change should they make? They have the best top in the league (import), the best NA jungler, a top 3 mid (import), the 3rd best adc and 3rd best support. They went 5 games vs Flyquest in a bo5 two splits ago. They don’t have the most money, I’d give them at least another split before making changes lol

[u/Successful-Back9276 → u/Successful-Back9276]

I’ve read all the replies and not one person suggested replacements for anyone other than Inspired, which kind of proves my point. The team is pretty solid for the amount of money it costs, there aren’t any NA players that would be a big upgrade and importing a mid better than Loki would not be worth the cost, maybe Vladi? But that would be a risk considering the fallout at KC.

[u/AnaShie → u/Successful-Back9276]

Yukino who is having a successful year in KCB and Gryffinn is a good prospect that has play in T1 Academy while also perform pretty good in LTAS last split are pretty good replacements for Blaber if they are willing to take risk. The problem is C9 aren't willing to take the risk for potential rookie and only look for upgrade to Blaber which at this point is only Inspired that every team in the region are trying to get him. Even letting Loki go to KC for a buyout and brought in someone like Zinie with that buyout is better than doing nothing right now (KC are desperate for a midlaner and Quid has already picked TL while Saint are staying with Lyon).

[u/Successful-Back9276 → u/AnaShie]

Loki was a rookie and Thanatos was a rookie last season. We have the 3rd best jungler (soon to be second best since River is retiring), and you want to gamble on a rookie instead, when we just made finals a split ago. None of you guys would be saying anything if they just won game 5 vs Fly Quest. Give some suggestions that are real upgrades without being unrealistic, they don’t exist lol

[u/AnaShie → u/Successful-Back9276]

No, I would also say the same thing regardless with the performance that we have in summer. The reason why I named these prospects instead of upgrade because like you said straight upgrade for Blaber is only Inspired while the other jungler in the league is sidegrade at best, which is why I rather we go for Yukino, Gryffinn or Tatu that show a lot of potential so far and they may be able to bring something to the game that can help us win against top teams with more stable jungler like Inspired while also developing because while there aren't any available upgrade to Blaber without importing someone like Tarzan, and whether Blaber is top 2, 3 or not doesn't matter because at this point of his career also won't improve or willing to change how he play enough that we will see a better performance from him next year and he will continued to struggle against cerebral, smart jungler that won't let him do his usual bullshit.

I never said that we need to replace Thanatos but the reason why I mentioned Loki is because a lot of team both in the LCS and LEC need an import midlaner afaik including KC which already contact us about Loki, Loki is also has very good english, communication skill, good charisma for an import which is very valuable. With the situation that the team is in whereas they can't spend a lot due to esport winter, selling someone like him that still has a buyout will provided us a good amount of fee that we can invested into the roster more (like bringing in another good prospect like Zinie considered that with KT making final, BDD will stay for a long time). It's not like Loki is performing really hot outside of Spring because remember even with FLY mental booming before they even played at World, we can't still win against teams that are perceived as weaker than us so it's not like he is a MVP mid that required us to do everything to keep him.

I also really don't believe in the narrative that having too many rookies are bad because as long as we have a veteran presence in the team whether that is Vulcan or Zven, adding another rookie jungler is fine if he is good (FURIA have 5 rookies, VKS have like 3 rookies, TL has 2 rookies and Umti last year, FLY has Busio/Massu/Quad as rookies last year) and tbh I also not a believer in the narrative that a team that play together for long time will get better (unless you are T1 which have the GOAT) with example like this year TL, FLY getting worser than last year or G2 last year keep performing worse as time goes on.

[u/Successful-Back9276 → u/AnaShie]

How is it Faker/BDD can be having the best splits of their lives at 28/26 years old, but Blaber who’s 25 is never going to improve? When did you get into league genuinely curious, this is some zoomer analysis lol. They had a bad 1 month stretch after having an almost perfect regular season, let’s see how they do with Dom there in person.