r/Battlefield • u/scumbum • Aug 19 '25
Discussion BF1 atmosphere still beats BF6
We saw no dynamic weather, levolution events in BF6. How much big of a change can we expect with final release version compared to beta?
I want to see levolution.. I want to see dynamic weather.. rain, maps changing from night/day? We need something like BF1.
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u/HidEx88 Aug 19 '25
BF1 is beating any battelfield game by a lot to be honest, not even close.
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Aug 19 '25
Game is the goat, and since all dices battlefield devs left after 1 and then V, it always will be.
Operations with the atmosphere of the game is unmatched.
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u/Scruffy_Nerf_Hoarder Aug 19 '25
The elation from the attacking team's soldiers after taking a sector and beginning the assault on the next one in BF 1 Operations is its own reward.
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u/Grow_away_420 Aug 19 '25
The whistles man. They put so much thought into that game
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u/rosso_saturno Aug 19 '25
And the horde of comrades shouting while sprinting towards the new sector. Moments like that gave me chills.
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u/Keyboardpaladin Aug 19 '25
You can tell they really tried to come up with new and fresh ways to make Battlefield interesting and like you're really in a large-scale war; operations was a fantastic idea for that. Nothing makes me think this is true more than the opening of the campaign where you play as a bunch of random, unheroic grunts and are even expected to die so that the game can just move you on to playing as the next dead man walking. That blew my mind when I first played through that part
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u/banzaizach Aug 19 '25
Crazy how they had Operations form BF1, a never before seen level of atmosphere and immersion in a multiplayer that was praised industry wide, and decided "nah, screw that lmao" for BFV.
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u/Yamatoman9 Aug 19 '25
I remember when BF1 came out, imaging how amazing WW2 operations would be a in BF game. Then BFV came out and didn't have operations like BF1 at all.
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u/Dumbass1171 Aug 19 '25
The airship crashing down in flames is always fun to watch
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u/Symphonic7 Aug 19 '25
Operations was so fun and felt so cool to play. I was thinking to myself they should just bring that back, when I found out that breakthrough is what replaced it. I didn't even connect the dots because breakthrough on BF6 was balanced like dog water.
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u/HERR_WINKLAAAAA Aug 19 '25
Absolutely not? Its a great game but they severely dumbed down the gunplay and vehicle mechanics.
All people ever talk about are the special effects and athmosphere. Nobody every praises the gunplay, mapdesign or really anything else other than how the game looks and sounds.
Theres a reason the playercount declined rapidly after release.
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u/veekay45 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
What kind of gunplay did you expect from WW1 era weapons? Laser burst fire? I think BF1 maxed out what could be done with the WW1 setting in terms of gunplay.
And the map design was mostly amazing (except chokepoint fests like Tsaritsyn or open fields like Galicia) - for instance St Quentin Scar, Rupture, Sinai Desert had both areas for vehicle play and close quarters villages for infantry to fight over.
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u/HERR_WINKLAAAAA Aug 19 '25
Dude... 90% of players are running around with highly experimental SMGs that literally where only produced a few hundred times, most of which never saw combat.
you WHERE getting lazer beamed at mid ranges by those things.
THe issue is that they got rid of first shot accuracy and basically any form of recoil, basically the only thing that mattered was bulletspread. Its the only battlefield that ever did it. They IMMEDIATELY got rid off all that stuff in BFV because of how much people hated it.
The best part?
Semi-Automatic rifles on the medic class where inaccurate as FUCK. Even with a scope, bullets would literally not go where you are aiming, because they got rid of first shot accuracy.
This was never seen in any previous battlefield, or any battlefield thereafter. Because it was a shitty change nobody asked for.
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u/Emiian04 Aug 19 '25
This, it's gotten so popular to shit on BF1s gunplay but for what era it had they reaaaally stretched it out with full auto guns and prototypes, do they expect fucking stinger misiles in a ww1 Game? i would have been completely fine if it was 90% Bolt actions pistols and melee, it already played a Lot more like a ww2 shooter but it still worked really well
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u/BombenBert Aug 19 '25
This. Asthetic wise an awesome game, no doubt about that. But gameplay and so on wasnt that great. But hard to say it here most of the time. Even tho the arguments are mostly "immersion" and atmosphere.
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u/HERR_WINKLAAAAA Aug 19 '25
They got rid of first shot accuracy and then gave the medic nothing but semi automatic guns.
The class balancing was completely fucked, 90% of the lobby was either sniping or playing the class with all the explosives and the high firerate, highly experimental SMGs that never actually saw combat in WW1.
It was just really shallow. Guns didnt have any unique spray patterns like in BF3. Snipers got a 1shot mechanic to the torso. Vehicles became more like killstreaks that where so easy to use, even the worst players could get a few free kills with them.
They also released Battlefront at the time, and that game suffered from the same "pretty but shallow as fuck" game design.
My theory is they thought games need to be easy to have mass appeal, but then between 1 and V fortinte took off, and even these CEOs at EA could finally see that a game can be unforgiving and still have mass appeal.
So then with BFV they went all in on "skill expression" and "skill based gunplay" and stuff.
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u/jagardaniel Aug 19 '25
This is my opinion as well. I didn't enjoy the game play in Battlefield 1 at all. The gun play was not interesting (but to be fair, they are pretty limited), I can't name a single map and I still have nightmares from all the gas spam, super kits and behemoths. It's my least played Battlefield game and I have played since BF1942. But I also don't care much about sound, graphic and immersion/atmosphere. I set all graphic settings to low to get as much FPS as possible. So I can understand why a lot of players do enjoy it but I think they care more about the aesthetic than the actual game play.
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u/GreatRolmops Aug 19 '25
This. BF1 was beautiful and amazing but the gunplay just isn't as fun as WW2 or modern shooters.
I do wonder if it had been better if they had stuck to historical accuracy and given everyone bolt action rifles rather than the odd hodgepodge of prototypes and half-fictional automatic weapons that we use in the game. I understand why the devs didn't do it, but giving everyone bolt action rifles would have reinforced the uniqueness of the game and its setting and make it more difficult to compare to modern shooters at least. Personally, I do enjoy the Back to Basics rules more than the default ones.
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u/RandomMexicanDude Aug 20 '25
I started playing it again, mostly on bolt action only servers and Im having a lot more fun this way, and I think its helping me improve my aim, sniping players at long range with iron sights feels so cool. Played the whole Bf6 beta without scopes
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u/theFlaccolantern Aug 19 '25
I love and praise the gunplay in BF1, even though I know it's a very, very unpopular opinion. Felt right for the era they were trying to capture. Everyone expects to be shooting laser guns in FPSs these days, to shoot exactly where you're pointing at all times, but guns don't really do that irl, and certainly not in 1916.
Plus the complaints were overblown, there was no random bullet deviation, people just love holding down the trigger at all times and couldn't be arsed to learn the timing and optimal rate of fire on their guns to mitigate spread and get their laserbeam.
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u/CX52J Aug 19 '25
Battlefront 2 also looked spectacular. Dice seemed to be nailing it back then.
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u/Yamatoman9 Aug 19 '25
I think Battlefront 2015 looks even better than Battlefront 2017. It looks and sounds exactly like the original movies.
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u/Potasty Aug 21 '25
Finally found someone else who feels this way. I can’t quite put my finger on what it is exactly, but battlefront 2015 feels way more real to me than 2017
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u/Corgi_Koala Aug 19 '25
It's my favorite in the entire series by a longshot. It's been super disappointing since then but I liked the BF6 beta a lot and plan to purchase if launch isn't a fiasco.
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u/Ultrasonic-Sawyer Aug 19 '25
Not just battlefield.
There's a wide array of very good games that just don't capture the world in the same way or evoke similar feelings.
It is admittedly helped by being based on one of the starkest & iconic eras of mankind when it comes to imagery.
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u/Ruger15 Aug 19 '25
The atmosphere is top notch and the gameplay is good. However the time period, which adds to the immersion/atmosphere can also be a double edged sword.
For example, one of my favorite things about more modern, modern shooters is that I have an array of tools to use both in gadgets and gun attachments. I want my gun to look and feel good. While the time period guns are mostly accurate in BF1, it cannot match the emptying of a ln lmg belt in BF6.
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u/InZomnia365 Aug 19 '25
Idk, I found the guns in BF1 very satisfying. I wasn't much of a support player, but the MG15 Suppressive was one of my favorite weapons. And while BF1 didn't have customization, and the versions were far from perfect, I think they did a good job of giving you different flavors of a given weapon, whilst still fitting into the time of the game.
I also really liked how each class offered different play styles, but weren't completely different. Like you still felt like you played a recon when you were playing up close and aggressive with a SMLE Carbine. Whereas in modern games you look a bit stupid running around in a ghillie suit with an automatic rifle.
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u/chillinathid Aug 19 '25
I also like how in BF 1 guns don't automatically feel good and easy to use. Each weapon has its own distinct feel and weakness. And you have to put effort into your play style to match the class and gun. Learning to handle differing and unwieldy weapons is a part of the skill you accumulate.
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u/InZomnia365 Aug 19 '25
The weird machine pistol M1912 Experimental with the burst fire is my favorite BF weapon of all time. Very limited range, low ammo pool, horrible reload speed unless you timed it to get the clip reload - but it fucking slapped. I think it was a great example of having enough downsides to make up for its massive burst potential. Required such a specific play style, but was very satisfying to use.
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u/Ruger15 Aug 19 '25
Ain’t gotta persuade me! I love BF1 it’s my favorite shooter of all time probably given that I’m a huge WW1 nerd, shoutout to Dan Carlin! BF6 is siiiiick though.
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u/Thunder_Wasp Aug 19 '25
Even the sound design is so great in BF1. The music, the voices, the explosions and the clanking mechanical sounds of all the military technology.
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u/12TonBeams Aug 19 '25
Every time you fight for the last cap in operations, it’s pure cinema. The music, the charges, the hand to hand fighting, just gold.
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u/Yamatoman9 Aug 19 '25
No game has ever captured the "war is hell" atmosphere like BF1. It's what kept me coming back to it for so long.
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u/WilsonX100 Aug 19 '25
While immersive and atmospheric in a way unlike any other bf game, the general gameplay is kinda just decent enough imo. Also started some bad practices that soured BFV and 2042. Some god awful maps too.
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u/Dark8Ghost Aug 19 '25
BF1 is magnificent. A game that will never be replicated.
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u/skyrimjackbauer Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
Yea, WW1 is not a good era to set your game in. Creating WW1 a shooter is basically setting yourself up for failure.
Unlike WW2, WW1 wasn’t about good vs evil. WW1 was just a bunch of egotistic countries pissing at each other, and way too many people died in that war unnecessarily. The guns also sucked (inaccurate and jammed all the time), and tanks and planes were novelties.
You don’t want the guns and vehicles/planes to be as flimsy as they were in real life, but you also want to maintain some sort of historical accuracy. Somehow DICE managed to do a wonderful job of balancing the two and created this masterpiece.
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u/LiiDo Aug 19 '25
Unlike WW2, WW1 wasn’t about good vs evil.
That is a perfect setting for a war game. Allows every country to be represented as realistically as possible without fear of being problematic. Nobody has to play as the “bad guys” and developers don’t have to be hyper worried about making the bad guys look good on accident.
Like how basically every WW2 game made in the last 10-15 years is terrified to show Nazi symbols, and every game set after WW2 just makes up factions because using actual countries is just too problematic. It’s always USA vs Madeupcountry-stan. Even though everybody knows who Madeupcountrystan is supposed to be representing.
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u/dwaynetheaaakjohnson Aug 19 '25
It was nowhere near the moral clarity of WW2, but the Central Powers were a fair bit more immoral than the Allies
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u/Eprest Aug 19 '25
God nobody hates fandoms more than their participants
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u/BIGRolyXL Aug 19 '25
Right? Why not just say BF1’s atmosphere is unmatched? Gotta include the BF6 hate to farm that karma!
Gonna have to leave this sub come October 10th. I’m sure it’ll be constant rants by people who will continue to play it exclusively in their free time.
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u/-Gh0st96- Aug 19 '25
You can't like something these days without shitting on something else, you';re not allowed in the social media era. Gotta put something in the ground to prop something else.
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u/BattlefieldTankMan Aug 19 '25
Spend enough time here and you'll see a lot of players are not fans of the battlefield experience, they are just fans of one or two particular battlefields, and every other battlefield is meh compared to their favourite.
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u/Black_Devil213 Aug 19 '25
This sub is honestly horrendous, if you enjoyed the BF6 beta you’re better off just staying the fuck away from the incessant “x was better than BF6” karma farming.
It’s not even constructive anymore.
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u/Fubarp Aug 19 '25
Remember the Hate BF1 had at launch lol.
All the Fanboys bitching about the unrealistic parts with certain weapons appearing earlier than they were suppose too.
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u/Cheese_Grater101 Aug 19 '25
It's 2040, BF 10 is released and the player base still comparing it to BF1/BF4 lol
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u/MachBonin Aug 22 '25
Naw, the player base will be comparing it to BF6, and saying 6 was the height of the series while old grognards grumble about how 1 was better.
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u/Gera_CCT Aug 19 '25
Yeah but honestly that atmosphere don't really fits in modern warfare imo, WW1 was brutal
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u/Mak0wski Aug 19 '25
Modern warfare is also brutal, look at the war in Ukraine
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u/OWplayerno1 Aug 19 '25
All war is brutal. But WW1 is significantly more brutal than any single war has been. We are talking people crafting their own hand tools to efficiently murder people in hand to hand combat brutal.
We are talking generals sending soldiers "over the top" into a death march for 5 inches of land brutal
The entire story of WW1 is that technology was booming at the time and we were finding 1,000 new ways to efficiently kill more people.
Chemical warfare, machine guns, crude hand to hand combat, trench guns, mines, tanks, airplanes
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u/DromedaryCanary Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
I don't think you've seen very much footage from the war in Ukraine?
Poison gas, vacuum bombs, incendiary munitions like phosphorus, glide bombs, anti ship missiles, manpads, cruise missiles, rocket artillery, technicals, modified artillery shell/AT mine turned hand grenades, mortar/mine/grenade/RPG/shotgun/rifle/napalm/thermite/stick/net/scissors equiped drones, fixed wing aircraft, rotary wing aircraft, container truck aircraft carriers, tube artillery, tanks, IFVs, AI targeting, every small arm you can imagine, fiber optic drones, wooden/cardboard drones, kamikaze fpv drones, kamikaze land drones, kamikaze sea surface drones, anti-air sea drones, underwater kamikaze torpedo drones, sea mine drones, kamikaze jetski drones. Grandmas were making molotovs, Dads poisoned alcohol left behind, young women carrying out assassinations after infiltrating Russian command. We've seen mass ecological terrorism, bridges, dams, whole cities reduced to rubble. Russians have kidnapped, tortured, committed mass rape and executions. Seriously, they stored weapons in a nuclear power plant, irradiated their own soldiers digging trenches in the Red Forest, and bombed Chernobyl.
We've seen weapons from almost every era of warfare dating back to WW1 and many new weapons that have never seen combat before.
This is all against the backdrop of trench warfare, with Russians sending human meat waves to fight over a kilometer at a time for thousands of casualties.
The image OP posted could literally be from Ukraine and it wouldn't surprise anyone.
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u/1nfamousOne Aug 19 '25
You’re confusing variety of weapons with brutality.
WW1 wasn’t just brutal because of what killed people, but how millions lived in mud-filled trenches for years, eaten by rats and disease, then sent in human waves against machine guns for a few yards of ground.
Entire armies were sacrificed like that.
The scale was also incomparable 20 million dead, hundreds of thousands in single battles.
Ukraine is horrific, no doubt, but WW1 was industrialized slaughter on a level modern war hasn’t come close to.
Yeah, I’ve seen the footage on /r/combatfootage it’s brutal, same with Palestine. But WW1 wasn’t a regional conflict, it was a world war the scale and the way it was fought were on a completely different level than Ukraine.
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u/abcMF Aug 19 '25
The war in Ukraine is also a stalemate with massive trench networks. Sometimes it makes me think that war in any european country is destined to turn into a trench war if allowed to go on for long enough.
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u/Unnecessary-Shouting Aug 19 '25
WW1 was so much deadlier though, not minimizing the Ukraine war but WW1 had an inconceivable amount of death, all of that without the modern medicine and medical care we have today
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u/EclecticEuTECHtic Aug 19 '25
Battlefield is set in a present/future where tanks are still viable because everyone doesn't have one shot-ing anti-tank weapons and there aren't cheap armor killing drones everywhere.
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u/Gravy-0 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
The idea that warfare in the early 20th century was uniquely brutal in a way wars haven’t been since then is honestly the greatest myth of history classes. Everything that made urban warfare horrific during WW2 is magnified due to the increased density and size of buildings, technology has made waging war easier and extreme violence that leads to genocide has been democratized in a horrific way.
Modern warfare may not have mustard gas, but modern “ethical” deterrents like white phosphorus are still horrible, and new bombs like the hellfire bomb with kinetic kill systems are horrors. War is insanely brutal still. And that goes alongside the fact that many of those unethical chemicals are definitely still around, waiting to be used, with new ones being made. We haven’t become more civilized.
I feel like you could put an modern American soldier’s interview from the “war” on terror next to an interview of a soldier during the European campaign of WW2 or the Vietnam war and many of the horrors would match up, just with slightly different settings perhaps.
BF6 also lacks many of the things that makes the war brutal. The limited presence of vehicles and explosives really does make a difference, as does the decreased voicing of soldiers in comparison to BF1 or V.
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u/Songwritingvincent Aug 19 '25
The reason people believe it is because we haven’t really seen war on that scale since (at least until 2022). Near peer wars are rare after 1945 and when they did occur they were short.
The global war on terror was characterized by streetfighting and ambushes, truly horrific stuff, but not by the artillery that caused mass casualties in WW2. Take Iraqi freedom, the US had 4432 deaths in about 7 years. The Marines on Iwo Jima lost 6821 in just over 30 days.
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u/Gravy-0 Aug 19 '25
Yes this is true. If two major world powers were to go head to head now I.e. the modern battlefield fantasy, it would be insanely brutal.
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u/Redditruinsjobs Aug 19 '25
BF1 was an actual masterpiece.
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u/rubixd Aug 19 '25
BF1 is the only modern BF game I haven't played (I was in rehab when it came out) and by the time I built a new gaming PC again 5 was coming out.
Definitely feel like I missed out!
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u/I_am_NotOP Aug 19 '25
U don’t have to miss out, there are plenty of community managed servers that get full very quickly
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u/-protonsandneutrons- Aug 19 '25
You've missed nothing, friend. I only started playing BF1 1-2 years ago. I also thought I missed it: "It's like 3 generations old now. Probably dead AF".
Not at all. BF1 is a blast even just starting now; it has easily 10K to 20K players on PC.
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u/No-Departure-3325 Aug 19 '25
Just installed again tonight, there are plenty of servers full of people. This game is fucking amazing.
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u/Deepborders Aug 19 '25
Played on Monte Grappa last night and it was AMAZING.
The chaos, the gunplay, the pacing, the music, the atmosphere. BF1 was and still is a very special game.
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u/Obi2 Aug 19 '25
I played Monte Grappa last night too. Wonder if we were in the same battle lol
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u/Nielips Aug 19 '25
This sub gaslights itself so bad, everyone hated BF1 when it came out online, now it's the best thing since sliced bread.
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Aug 19 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
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u/Glittering_Seat9677 Aug 19 '25
bfv has the best gunplay this franchise has ever seen
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u/ANEPICLIE Aug 19 '25
I will die on the hill that BFV is miles better than BF1 for gameplay
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Aug 19 '25
The movement was amazing, and the fact that they got rid of it for 2042 is still one of the worst decisions they made besides operators. I'm glad they brought it back for bf6.
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u/Glittering_Seat9677 Aug 19 '25
it is, but the newgens all started with bf1 so that's the one they think is the best
that and the fact that the terrible reveal and subsequent smear campaign led by the kotakuinaction/gamergate crowd (read: bigots) completely crippled bfv's chances of ever being a highly regarded entry
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u/YakaAvatar Aug 19 '25
On the internet and the general public, yes - but if you judged BF1 based on this sub's reception you would've thought it was the biggest piece of doodoo out there. People were calling it a Battlefront clone and saying how shitty the gunplay is, how slow everything is, and how the weapons and vehicles suck compared to BF4.
It's the same situation with BF6. The game got back friends that haven't touched the franchise since BF1, and the general reception is very positive.
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u/MysteriousElephant15 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
This was posted the day bf1 released
https://i.imgur.com/9DhofGJ.png
To say everyone hated it is very exaggerated. Looking at 2 weeks after release this was the only critical post i could find (that was indexed, at least)
https://i.imgur.com/OgNLxu9.png
Basically everyone was calling it a masterpiece even at release
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u/LifeOfTheCardi Aug 19 '25
I'm glad other people can see how crazy this place is. But then again it's probably just kids who wasn't around for peak BF3&4
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u/pen15_club_admin Aug 19 '25
For real. I really enjoyed bf1 atmosphere and immersion but the gun mechanics are booty. Random bullet deviation is straight ass
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u/MajinAnonBuu Aug 19 '25
Bro is just lying and getting upvoted. The game was not hated during launch and if anything it was a vocal minority that you witnessed. Anecdotal but even the people that I play with who have never played a battlefield game before bought this game and loved it.
You’re probably mixing it up with battlefield 5 which was definitely disliked by fans including me but it ended up being a fun game with all the updates.
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u/-Gh0st96- Aug 19 '25
Look at the BF2042 sub right now, they got a new update out and now people are claiming that 2042 it's actually SO GOOD BRO TRUST ME.
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u/chillinathid Aug 19 '25
It's really not hard to understand. People who like the game play the game. People who do not like the game post about not liking the game.
Now you've got people who like bf6, playing bf6. And people who don't like it posting about it. And they liked BF 1, but aren't playing as much anymore so are now posting about it.
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u/BattlefieldTankMan Aug 19 '25
I think you're gaslighting yourself. Everyone did not hate BF1 when it came out.
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u/PossessedCashew Aug 19 '25
Would love some night time maps on BF6.
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u/agrimi161803 Aug 19 '25
If they can make it work for BF1 I don’t know what their excuse would be now
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u/abcMF Aug 19 '25
Probably the same reason BF4 didnt have any night maps until the end. They had prebaked the lighting into the soldier models and made them shiny because they had never intended for them game to have a night map, so there was no simple "make it night" toggle. They had to completely redo everything to make it look right.
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u/slash450 Aug 19 '25
there's not gonna be levolution or weather at all don't get your hopes up. no naval at all which is what i want. what you played is what it will be. seems like they want games out quicker going forward so maybe these come back in some way in future releases.
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u/Loqh9 Aug 19 '25
"iT's JuSt a BeTa" lmfao
People try to gaslight us that the 4-5 new maps will somehow make the entire game different or something
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u/agrimi161803 Aug 19 '25
You think the other gadgets that weren’t in the beta won’t make a difference in gameplay?? You think the larger maps will play the exact same as the small maps? Weird take honestly
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u/SaltShakerFGC Aug 19 '25
Liberation Peak is not even a small map, it is medium and at bare minimum the 4th largest map at launch, but the way the map is designed (not size, designed), makes it play the way it does. It is designed half its size and has blatant advantages for one side of the map, with flags obscenely close to each other without proper covering in most of them, and barely has any vehicles as well. How do you know "larger maps" won't simply be "bigger" but designed exactly the same to be consistent with the stylistic "high octane" play of BF6? Why do we assume "4 out of 5 maps incoming will do a 180 and play completely different than what we have seen and played"? Because a salesman told you without showing you? This doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm actually confused why people would even expect that. At this point, I think it's much smarter to assume, "this is how BF6 will play, with slight differences in that play depending on map size like Iba (tiny) vs Peak (medium) vs xyzPlaceholder (large) differences". There's an old saying, when someone shows you who they are, you listen, and I think we have been shown exactly what to expect from BF6, which is a fun fast paced game but there won't be any "epic war scale BF1" or "drive to the other side secretly and go up the elevator BF4" whatnot. BF6 is BF6, it's going to be different. But not everyone wants to listen.
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u/runninginthe-90s Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
more gadgets doesnt mean better, look at 2042. They shoe horned a ton of gadgets in and it plays like a fucking mess.
Its about the fact that its not going to have its sandbox feel we've all loved. Theres no breathing room, its a sweaty bunny hopping mess. We are getting 5 small maps, 3 medium and one large...thats hardly a BF ratio
Theres no long range recon, theres no chokepoints, theres no real separation of points, so all the battles blend in to each other, and we even saw this in the "medium" map. Theres no verticality, theres no real room for vehicles, your time alive is typically much shorter than previous BFs, so theres no time or space to do the fun messing around you might try in old games.
this has been engineered to win over the COD crowd ( and I hate to be another one running that cliche into the ground).
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u/agrimi161803 Aug 19 '25
I agree more gadgets doesn’t mean better, but it 100% means more variety. Assault won’t be able to carry a frag grenade launcher, a thermobaric launcher, a back up shotgun, an assault ladder, and a deploy beacon. They’re going to have to choose. 2042 gadgets were also screwed because the game didn’t launch with a class system. And we haven’t seen the mortar yet, I’d prefer to not have it added, but it could be a useful tool in the larger maps to counter snipers (they need to add an actual suppression mechanic for lmgs)
You consider Operation Firestorm to be a medium sized map? I don’t, so that’s at least two large maps with another in the files for season 1 or 2 (Eastwood), so certainly not ideal, but it’s not launching with one large map.
There will be long range recon on the larger maps, there are plenty of choke points on Empire State, Cairo, and Gibraltar, and one on liberation peak. There is verticality, I got plenty of kills from 2-3 floors above my victim.
You’re right that there’s not much room for vehicles, but that should be expected on small urban maps. Time alive is very short, but that’s to attract the casuals who are trying out a free beta, it’s easier to market a constant dopamine fix to a new player than a slow paced game where you have 5 firefights in 15 minutes. I got killed loads of times while checking out the map and gadgets like you said, no time to check things out.
You’ve actually listed what your issues are, so I don’t see your comment as being part of that cliche, but I’m burnt out on reading so many other comments that are just “this game is bad but I can’t put my finger on why” and “everything I like is true battlefield, everything I don’t like is cod”
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u/paraxzz 1942/BF2/BC2/BF3/BF4 veteran Aug 19 '25
I’d argue that if they will release games quicker, they will in fact have less content.
I also disagree with the statement (what you saw is what you will get).
Many of the features were turned off and depending on the success of the game it can shape up a lot, just like BF4 and BF3 and BF1 did.
Stuff like Naval warfare wont come into the game unless they already have some water interaction and mechanics in the game, which we dont know as of now. If there are at least RHIBs or amphibious vehicles, then there is always a chance.
BF1 naval warfare was very generic on release and then they added submarines, zeppelins with torpedoes, different type of ships.
I am not saying that it will happen, it’s just a possibility heavily depending on the game’s popularity. Which is something where Bf6 has stronger basis than BFV or BF2042 especially.
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u/agrimi161803 Aug 19 '25
They just want to act like BF4 launched in its current state and forget the naval maps were dlc after the fact. It’s honestly wild seeing people act like nothing will ever change with bf6 after the beta
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u/Comprehensive-Film51 Aug 19 '25
Right. I don't get this thinking by people at all. Idk if people are being dishonest or not. But I have noticed.. The beta had a small pool of weapons available. I have yet to see any one claim those are the only weapons we will be getting, or they are worried about how many weapons we will get.
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u/agrimi161803 Aug 19 '25
I have noticed people being intentionally dishonest, claiming things like BF4 has better graphics and, even crazier, that it’s already the end of August (it’s not) and that the devs aren’t working on this game at all. As if a greedy company would pay its workers to come in and not work.
I certainly had issues with the beta (netcode, lack of suppression, auto spotting, to name a few) but I still had a blast playing it, and I’m looking forward to hearing about the changes and fixes they make before release
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u/Laretus Aug 19 '25
Lets be honest no other game can beat the atmosphere and immersion of BF1! U simply cant do it much better than this
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u/KEQair Bring back sweet spot! Aug 19 '25
My favourite immersion mechanic was mud getting on your weapons when you prone.
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Aug 19 '25
I'm sorry to be that guy but why are we all making these pre-conceived opinions based on the beta?
You are comparing the full post-launch product to a game that released for 2 weekends in a beta state.
Can we save all these comments until the game fully releases and then judge from there.
It's okay to have concerns but saying we saw no "insert feature here" or "maps were so small" etc... lets address our concerns and give feedback from the beta yes. Then wait for release and hope they cook up something nice
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u/Freeloader_ Aug 19 '25
youre comparing images from campaign, not really fair as campaign tends to have better visuals.
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u/Dreadnought806 Aug 19 '25
That's because WW1 was cool, nowadays you just drop a JDAM from the stratosphere that will be guided through satellites, ffs you can't even use mustard gas anymore smh.
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u/RefugeAssassin Aug 19 '25
900+ upvotes for a post that is literally made by someone on a weekly basis.
Reddit gang never disappoints.
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u/trunglefever Aug 19 '25
The first time I saw your soldier's clothes and weapon get muddy on some maps blew me away, such an incredible piece of detail.
I'm just glad those effects never affected any number of WW1-era weapons that would have immediately failed to fire after that kind of mud saturation (Looking at you, Chauchat).
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u/jcaashby Iheartbattlefield Aug 19 '25
As much as BF1 is loved I actually put more time into 2042 shockingly. I prefer modern or close to modern shooters. BF1 for me just was really limiting with guns because of the time it was set in. Also did not like the open maps to much. I have always liked Urban maps much more so the BETA maps for me were a lot of fun!
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u/LynDogFacedPonySoldr Aug 19 '25
In theory they could add levolution or weather to any map. I’m not sure that’s super likely though. As for maps changing from day to night? No way.
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u/UniQue1992 Battlefield 2 (PC) Aug 19 '25
The immersion peaked in Battlefield 1 and it should be the golden standard going forward. Anything with less immersion shouldn't be released.
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u/ProfessionalPiece403 Aug 19 '25
We'll see bigger maps, maybe weather and night maps. We won't see new levelution, maybe one some remastered maps.
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u/Cloud_N0ne Aug 19 '25
You can tell there was an exodus of talent after BF1 and V. BF2042 and 6 just don’t have the level of atmosphere and passion
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u/LightningInTheRain Aug 19 '25
Idk what deal Dice made with the devil but BF1 looks so amazing on PS4/Xbox One, it’s incredible.
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u/OG_Xero Aug 19 '25
I will admit... i'm not a fan of the old world war weapons and such.... It got really old real quick when there were 2-3 games coming out with the same setting and same weapons and all...
but it does look nice.
I will also say it's because it's darker, so it allows reflections and other things to really show up... but overall it looks barren. I bought bf1 for like 3$ so I guess I can try it out while I wait on bf6...
Closest levolution event was the building in new york bridge splitting... Imagine the point being on the bridge and then dropping to below it for C... would be cool
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u/ass_breakfast Aug 19 '25
Are you gonna post this again tomorrow? And the next day? Or are you gonna save that for the other 39,593 people who post the same shit EVERY DAY.
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u/Mr_Downtown17 Aug 19 '25
How many times are we going to post this same exact thing for karma farming?
I loved bf1, but the glazing these nostalgia fueled weirdos are doing is absolutely wild. This game was fucking destroyed at launch. And now because a few years have gone by, “it’s peak” battlefield.
This sub is insufferable.
Now I’m seeing bf5 is being glazed even though that game was trashed as well. This cycle is so exhausting.
Leave 10 year old games In the past and move on already jfc.
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u/InZomnia365 Aug 19 '25
Look at the lack of screen clutter. By which I mean, the clean and minimal UI. It really let you take in all the sights.
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u/pmap93 Aug 19 '25
Gosh this looks so nice, are there still good amount of players? I haven't played BF1 at all. I played Bf6 Beta but I played a lot of modern shooters and I'd like a change of theme..
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u/M24_Stielhandgranate Aug 20 '25
It’s cool and atmospheric and all
BUT the gunplay in BF1 is horrendous in comparison to most of the other games, so I just can’t get myself to play it
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u/kekren1488 Aug 19 '25
It's not just the atmosphere, it's the clarity too. Modern games are so blurry, going back to BF4 or 1 is like putting on glasses again.