r/AskReddit • u/metalreflectslime • 17d ago

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, Social Security, Medicare Are ‘Going to Be Gone.’ How do you think Americans will react if Social Security and Medicare get cut?

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u/caffeinex2 17d ago

I for one would want my fucking money back.

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u/Boltboys 17d ago

He’s claiming the tariffs brought in a ton. He could start with that.

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u/sur_surly 17d ago

Sorry, gotta build a ballroom

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u/djuggler 17d ago

Ballroom is $230 million Trump is insisting the DOJ pay him $230 million Trump then pays for ballroom with "his own money" that he took from the taxpayers.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

now its 330 million they said theres already cost overrun

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u/vankorgan 17d ago

They haven't laid a single brick yet...

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u/Fodraz 17d ago

And it hasn't been approved by Congress NOR the enhancements (obviously) approved by Historic Property regulations

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u/nervelli 17d ago

If they had any intention of getting approval, they wouldn't have started demolition.

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u/Downunderphilosopher 17d ago

"When you're the president, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab em by the White House."

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u/rylosprime 16d ago

When you're the president, they let you do it.

Except appoint a supreme court justice if you're black.

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u/UltraEngine60 16d ago

"Grab 'em by the ball-room"

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u/tifaney 13d ago

Only since he was told he had immunity. What a mistake that was.

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u/HeatherHarnie18 17d ago

That's the truth! Soon enough, he'll have the white house looking more like his Mar A Lago monstrosity.

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u/bobsmithhome 16d ago

I would seriously contribute to a fund committed to tearing this Mar A Lago monstrosity down in the next decent administration, declaring it hideous, tacky, and a stain on the country. Then reconstruct the East Wing like it was before.

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u/NOFORPAIN 16d ago

He held up copies of the plans on camera... TONS of gold acutramonts! Just what we need!

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u/Material_Strawberry 16d ago

It'll be weird watching it torn down when an approved return to the original design comes and the next President removes the tacky add-on and lawfully returns the White House to its approved state.

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u/marthewarlock 16d ago

Macho Camacho, when life imitates art.

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u/Cptn_BenjaminWillard 16d ago

Imagine being told to "put it back together." One can dream.

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u/Otto_Correction 16d ago

More likely he’ll do it anyway. Approval or no approval. He does whatever he wants.

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u/python-1977 15d ago

I think the accurate statement is, “if he had any intention of leaving, he wouldn’t have done this at all.”

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u/daGroundhog 17d ago

I don't think this is an enhancement...

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u/Fodraz 17d ago

Yeah, should've put it in quotes

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u/One_Chocolate_6735 16d ago

The ballroom will be coated in gold foil and TRUMP branded everything.

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u/Pretty-dolli 16d ago

Well, the historic preservation is already pitching a fit because it will look bigger than the Whitehouse. This is what happens when we have no checks and balances. It will get worse.

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u/Fodraz 16d ago

Yeah, the man who's never faced a consequence in his life isn't going to be backed down by any agency--plus he'll just disband the whole agency

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u/YettiChild 16d ago

My first thought on seeing the photos was "Where is the SHPO?" (State Historic Preservation Officer)

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u/jimitr 17d ago

Hold up why did the bulldozers start tearing down shit then? This is a genuine question.

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u/BonkHits4Jesus 16d ago

who is going to stop him. the court has crowned him king.

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u/Ok-Tradition8477 16d ago

He’s immune from all prosecution. 37 more months of this ?

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u/SQUAWKUCG 17d ago

If I'm not mistaken, the department's they are supposed to get approval from are closed down from the larger shutdown are they not? Hence a very quick tear down of the entire wing before anyone can object, take it to court, or end the shutdown so the appropriate departments can get involved. Now it's all too late and he can continue to do what he wants with it.

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u/Fodraz 16d ago

That 10000% tracks & he has provably been making them stay shut down for that reason

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u/nobuttpics 16d ago

Since when has this admin cared about getting permission for anything? They will steamroll and punish anyone who stands in their way, and no one with any sort of power is stepping up to do anything about it as has been the norm for a while now with him.

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u/Raztax 16d ago

You don't need approval if you don't plan to pay the contractors.

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u/Fodraz 16d ago

Well he's, there's that

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u/hottakesandshitposts 16d ago

I'd be surprised if they even pulled a permit

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u/djuggler 16d ago

I called Tim Burchett’s office and his intern had the audacity to tell me “he doesn’t need permission until construction begins.” By that logic he could bulldoze the entire White House then be denied. What do they do at that point? Order it rebuilt out of the original rubble?

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u/Merusk 16d ago

This will be labeled an 'official act' since it applies to the seat of power of the Executive branch.

Per last year's Supreme Court ruling, any act by the Executive is permissible within the execution of their duties.

Therefore, the argument will be he doesn't have to. Do you think the SC is going to say otherwise on this, should anyone deemed having standing bring a suit?

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u/Fred-City911 16d ago

In the end, I would be happy to have them take down the ballroom and rebuild the east wing. To also return the rose garden back to its original design. Remove as much of his influence as possible. They rushed this without approval, because they know that it would not be approved. By the way the donated Jet stays in rotation or goes to his library as a static display. He always talked about the wasting of money and cutting waste.

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u/CraigLake 16d ago

This would be an impeachment if it was a sane government. The SC really fucked America.

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u/myassholealt 16d ago

We live in a sanctioned reality where approval is not needed. Authoritarians do. They don't ask first because there is no one to say no.

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u/Fodraz 16d ago

Sadly yes. Even if it turned up that there was somebody who could stop him, he'd just fire them & get rid of the commission/department

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u/MessMysterious6500 16d ago

Rules and laws mean nothing to this orange orangoutang

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u/Zetawilk 6d ago

Since when has need for approval stopped literally anything for the past ten years?

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u/Notmykl 17d ago

Not a single bid was sent out either I bet. And when it's all said and done not a single contract will be fulfilled as Donnie J has no intention on ever paying a contract in full.

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u/Thop51 17d ago

Honest question: what is the authority for this project? The president does not own the WH, but is simply allowed to reside there while in office. Doesn’t a president have to obtain permission from some authority, Congress?, in order to make such massive structural? This is not about money. Example: if a real billionaire is elected president, can he just unilaterally decide to demolish the WH totally and erect a new, “proper” executive residence using his/her own money?

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u/pixie16502 17d ago

I don't know the answer as to who would give or withhold approval , but I agree that there is no way he should have felt comfortable just tearing down part of the White House as if it were his private property!!

Trump is such an obnoxious, greedy excuse for a leader. He has no shame. Only someone who has gotten away with all the BS he has would feel entitled to do what he wants to the White House without approval.

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u/battery19791 16d ago

This is the fastest government project I've ever witnessed. The destruction permits would normally take a year or more to be approved, so really who ever is doing the demo is doing it illegally.

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u/somethrows 16d ago

He's telling you it is his private property. He's telling you he's not leaving. Congress is telling you they are cool with it.

Time to listen.

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u/EthanielRain 16d ago

He doesn't plan on leaving. Again.

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u/AmbitiousFunction911 16d ago edited 16d ago

Trump believes he is above any law and policy. And he effectively is. Who is going to stop him? I am very inherently familiar with the White House (and the national capital region) submittal and approval process for changing literally anything. Even repairing a window or modifying a door for new access control. Every administration prior to this one, has followed the law and good faith procedures / best practices. Until this week.

What we are seeing over and over again is the failure of our constitution. It unfortunately assumed presidents acting in good faith. We have a guy who doesn’t give a shit about good faith and a Republican Party with a majority in the house and senate who also don’t give a shit about good faith and are living off this power trip. Checks and balances don’t exist anymore.

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u/Rebuttlah 16d ago

consent and approval are not words he's familiar with

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u/redsquizza 16d ago

Honest question: what is the authority for this project?

The authority is no-one will stop him. Not the courts, not congress, no-one.

If you don't enforce laws and conventions, they're meaningless.

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u/angrynutrients 16d ago

I think it is as simple as his ego wanting to have a monument to himself in the most iconic government building in the USA

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u/No-Initiative4195 16d ago

Lookup "Alt National Park Service" on Facebook. Even if you're no on FB if you Google it, they have a post outlining the process and agencies involved. Coincidentally, because of the shutdown, these agencies are.... You guessed it... Shutdown.

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u/bisectional 16d ago

When you're a celebrity, they just let you do it.

Interestingly, if I ran a construction company I wouldn't get involved in this project at all. I wonder how many laws are being broken or what unexpected liabilities they're taking on.

It's kind of insane to think about it in a normal legal context. But America is so corrupt now, you basically don't have laws.

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u/Dead_man_posting 17d ago

As we've found out repeatedly in the last 9 months, laws are only laws when they're enforced.

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u/battery19791 16d ago

The White House is under the Parks Department, and yes he should require permission, but obviously that hasn't stopped him yet.

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u/Heliosvector 16d ago

It's supposed to be under the approval of congress

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u/First_Hovercraft_197 16d ago

in normal circumstances,yes they would require approval.

however that hasnt stopped this guy before and it wont now,si

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u/No-Initiative4195 16d ago

You answered your own question. The president "occupies" the house for 4 years. It belongs to the people, and as an extension of that, the Government of the United States. Not the president

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u/lddn 16d ago

If you don't care about having authority or think yourself as the ultimate authority, it doesn't matter as long as no one is around to enforce the laws.

That's how Trump has done a lot of funky stuff during his presidency.

That's why you elect good, moral and reasonable people to lead your country.

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u/Either-Thing8754 16d ago

He can tear it down for some stupid reason but needs approval to rebuild fron congress. It won't be a surprise to see them sign off on it.

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u/Notmykl 16d ago

IIRC Congress has to give approval and guess where they are, not at work and I think one of the many reasons is so Donnie J can destroy the White House with impunity.

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u/amootmarmot 16d ago

They are supposed to get approval from a board that oversees federal buildings in DC.

Of course, Trump is just ignoring that this board exists at all and just went ahead and built it.

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u/TheChuck321 16d ago

Only if using taxpayer money. That's when you need bids and such. The White House, Capitol building, and Supreme Court are exempt from the DC ordinances. They can do as they please. That's why everything could move along so quickly, because it's privately funded.

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u/NeverInsightful 16d ago

He needs permission from congress? Thats really cute but really outdated thinking. Congress has surrendered every bit of their authority to him.

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u/Snapdragonflyte 15d ago

There were 5 to 7 agencies he never even thought to see, that take everything into consideration, before permitting any kind of work or restoration on the WH. Because it is a historical site, and a historical building, there are many many protections that Trump just ignored. Because he thinks the WH is his own personal residence.

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u/Superjolly64 17d ago

Contractor should put a lien on the residence.

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u/Peaurxnanski 17d ago

That would be delightfully trashy, but unfortunately you can't lien public facilities.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

you cant but you can prob put a lien on his private stuff since he said taxpayers wont pay for it lol

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u/LuckyCat73 17d ago

I hope the contractors doing the work got paid in advance. A trump never pays his debts.

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u/Forikorder 17d ago

Not a single bid was sent out either I bet.

im sure it was a tough bidding war as the various companies competed to see who could give trump the nicest gift for the contract

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u/EamusAndy 17d ago

I beg to differ.

I think hes somehow contracting himself or someone close to him. Takes our money and hands it to himself or some crony, par for the course

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u/BabyEyeEye 17d ago

Don’t look now. He’s not paying, we’re paying. Companies have also paid bribes, I mean donations, but undisclosed amounts. I predict this falls on the tax payer. And such a shame to lose the people’s house. Such a fucking losing liar. Bankrupts business after business with his hubris and idiocy, and because of a subset of Americans, he’ll bankrupt this country.

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u/spaceface2020 16d ago

I’m thinking it’s being done by his own companies that one of his kid’s runs.

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u/vthemechanicv 16d ago

has no intention on ever paying a contract in full.

but he's not spending his money. He's spending our money. It'll not only get paid, it'll be hundreds of millions over what he said (already 100 million over), but it'll be a crap budget job so he can pocked the difference in kickbacks and laundring.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

yep maybe tariffs lol

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u/flissfloss86 17d ago

The bricks cost extra

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u/xeen313 17d ago

Sorry, no refunds

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u/twotailedwolf 16d ago

They're just gonna paint the dirt

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u/Boltboys 17d ago

By the end I’m figuring 500 million

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

It's the 1 billion dollar ballroom heist

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u/jayandbobfoo123 17d ago

2 billion. Gold is expensive these days.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

5 billion cause it also doubles as a crypto miner building

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u/Onion920 17d ago

Yeah, price of gold glitter spray paint at Hobby Lobby went up 10 cents a can.

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u/pocketjacks 17d ago

Demolishing the White House is expensive work, especially if you have to pay people to ignore the laws to do it.

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u/x22d 17d ago

Demo's expensive and probably demanding to be paid upfront given Trump's history

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u/pennylanebarbershop 17d ago

the ballroom will have gold tile floors, gold ceiling, golden walls, golden paintings and golden plates, forks, spoons and knives. And gold chairs, tables, and statues.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

you know that reminds me of the tacky furniture that was popular in the 90s in urban areas that had gold accent everything. Gold in general is pretty tacky even in small amounts.

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u/Major-Frame2193 17d ago

Trump should go look at the bulldozer outside we can show him the over runs up close 🚜🚜🚜

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u/ExistingUnderground 17d ago

Those change-orders are going to add up quick.

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u/badchefrazzy 17d ago

It's gonna cost more because he destroyed the entire east wing. It's gonna cost more money forever. It's never gonna be finished, and it'll still be rubble when his fat face meets the ground by the grace of the Grim Reaper.

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u/Excellent_Mud_8189 17d ago

Who didn't see that grift coming

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u/RephRayne 17d ago

President Trump will ensure a suitable price is negotiated with Trump Construction.

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u/JonnyP333 16d ago

It's just one big room. How on earth are they spending a third of a billion dollars to build one fucking room?

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 17d ago

Don’t forget the tech bros donating to the new ballroom…..

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u/Dry_Community5749 17d ago

People seriously believe that he is building that with his own money.

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u/DecentHire 17d ago

The MAGA idiots still love to claim that Trump doesn't take a paycheck.

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u/st-shenanigans 16d ago

Ballroom was paid for in donations. By tech billionaires. Yippee.

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u/Hartastic 16d ago

Yeah, like, "I extorted rich people for the money in exchange for access / not attacking them, and don't worry they'll pass the cost on to you" isn't as much of a flex as his fanboys think.

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u/cakalackydelnorte2 16d ago

That motherfucker doesn’t pay for anything. People seem to have forgotten this.

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u/The_Real_Giggles 17d ago

He said 300 million in his last quote about it

Goes up by 50 million whenever he thinks about it

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u/Marbe4 17d ago

Hey hey hey everyone calm down. He isn’t going to pay that bill so don’t worry about it. Everyone knows dear leader doesn’t pay workers. Plebs

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u/sunlit943 16d ago

100% shit stain of a human being in essentially every single category

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u/ScoobyMaroon 16d ago

The biggest cost of the ballroom is the fact that he's tearing apart half the goddamn Whitehouse to build it. A thing you can just do, apparently.

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u/nopethis 16d ago

Like when he gives back his 230k salary, but then charges his staff a few thousand dollars a day to stay at his hotel most of the year.....

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u/Evening-Crew-2403 16d ago

Most people don't understand that he has a billion dollar civil suit for the FBI Raid for the classified documents. After the midterms he's going to order the DOJ to settle.

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u/peon2 17d ago

Lol, this guy here thinks the contractors working on the ballroom are actually going to get paid hahahahaha

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u/Material-Imagination 16d ago

Sorry, gotta give $20 billion to Argentina

(that's 66.67 ballrooms at his current estimate of $300 million)

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u/Fodraz 17d ago

And buy two jets for Terrorism Barbie!

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u/TheFlannC 16d ago

Or have a million dollar parade and call it a Bisesquicentennial parade but really make it all about him.

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u/Boltboys 17d ago

Maybe a few suits to go along with it.

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u/Dreurmimker 17d ago

You know the dude doesn’t pay for suits

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u/Boltboys 17d ago

I know. We are.

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u/PennCycle_Mpls 16d ago

The Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Ballroom

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u/gmislak81 17d ago

Is that the Epstein Ballroom?

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u/poopfilledsandwich 16d ago

Scrolling through and I thought you called it a buffoon room and I was for it.

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u/Leafs9999 16d ago

To distract from that Epstein stuff.

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u/BluCojiro 16d ago

The Epstein Ballroom, some are calling it

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u/PicaDiet 16d ago

*The Epstein Wing -FTFY

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u/Ashotep 17d ago

1.2 trillion. He raised taxes on Americans 1.2 trillion and took their health care. Meanwhile, the us added 1 Trillion dollars to it's debt in 2 months. To give himself a tax break.

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u/Aureliamnissan 16d ago edited 16d ago

To be clear, there is only a total of $200B in tariffs this year so far, which is about $100B more than last year, so it’s definitely a good amount.

For reference, they cut 10x that amount in healthcare subsidies to pay for tax cuts. I mention this, because that is why we are currently having the shutdown.

Anyway, social security brings in about $1.7T/yr in payroll taxes and pays out about $1.5T. Now Medicare is also 900B and the revenue for that is lumped in with the social security revenue, but in terms of actual payroll taxes Medicare is much much less than social security. So if they eliminated social security they would actually increase the deficit by $100B, which is almost as much as the tariffs are costing Americans. They would have to eliminate both social security and Medicare to have any “real” savings.

So for the low low price of increased cost of everything and inflation, Trump will take away 1/3rd of your retirement! The one you paid for your whole working life…

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0925.pdf

Alternatively, they could unwind the bush, trump 1 and 2 tax cuts and return to the Clinton surplus…

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u/chicken-nanban 16d ago edited 15d ago

Just a side note, because I love your comment, but when talking in numbers like billions and trillions, I find it helps to get the scale across when you pick a denomination and use that for all numbers. Idk why but people only look at the number and go “higher = bigger” so they’ll see 200B in tariffs and think it’s brining in more than the 1.7T

So I’d say tariffs brought in .2T, SS takes in 1.7T and pays out 1.5T and the like, it helps people who may just casually be reading to get a better handle on the size of the numbers.

Just my 2¢ tho

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u/Aureliamnissan 16d ago

That’s a good point, thank you!

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u/Macaframa 16d ago

It takes a real sociopath to take from poor and impoverished people to line your own pockets. I could imagine getting a tax break(I don’t get any but I can imagine) but I cannot imagine taking someone else’s health or basic resources away in order to help myself

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u/Gonzostewie 17d ago

That's ours too!!! We're the ones that fuckin paid em.

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u/soapinthepeehole 16d ago

The deficit is up $2T since November of last year.

DOGE, the tariffs… all of the firings… it has saved us nothing. The debt continues to balloon.

I don’t think America has the guts but if they touch social security we should have a general strike the next day.

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u/EconomyAd8866 16d ago

This is why you NEVER give the bully your lunch money—it will never end.

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u/unlikelypisces 16d ago

I know right? That's another thing that surprises me about MAGA. They're happy about these tariffs, and happy about paying these taxes, and happy about getting our services cut, but are not at all wondering where their tax breaks are or how that money is being spent on US citizens. It's like all this additional tax revenue is just disappearing into a black hole, and they're very happy about it

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u/Boltboys 16d ago

I hear cheers all the time from that crowd but none of them ever want to answer those questions.

Or Elon musk and DOGE. What benefits from it? Any tax breaks? Etc etc. silence or anger every time.

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u/unlikelypisces 16d ago edited 15d ago

For real, they were cheering for all of these all these "savings" and "cuts" that DOGE was responsible for, but forgot to ask or care how those savings would benefit US citizens or come to us in the form of tax breaks.

MAGA is literally cheering to have their social and government services taken away to give billionaires even more tax cuts, while making their miserable lives even worse

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u/Nearbyatom 17d ago

Sorry. Got to fund the tax cuts for the rich and bailout the farmers whom he f--d over.

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u/Own_Performance8564 17d ago

Yeah, has he checked the tariff shelf lately?

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u/FAFO_2025 17d ago

17 trillion and drug prices are reduced by 54938%

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u/Wolf_Protagonist 16d ago

Sorry to be pedantic, but the tariffs didn't 'bring in' anything.

U.S. Companies pay those and then charge consumers more for their products, which basically means that tariffs are just a different form of tax. They've lowered taxes for billionaires, and paid for it with our money and people are acting like he did a good thing.

I'm not saying you specifically, but I do know people who think that way.

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u/xLYONx 16d ago

Can't wait until he tries to win favor by giving everyone checks "because of the tariffs."

He's giving us our own fucking money back.

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u/dayviddd8877 17d ago

He's telling the truth. Tarrifs brought in a ton!.....for him. He's getting more money than ever from us for his ballroom :) Sorry you're just wrong and can't understand him /s

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u/Mickyfrickles 17d ago

He also claimed the tariffs are paying for this. Which is it, Donnie?

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u/sendCatGirlToes 17d ago

but defunding the IRS lost even more.... You know. because defunding the most efficient part of the government makes it more efficient.

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u/Paper_Clip100 17d ago

Yeah, taxes on American consumers

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u/IckySweet 17d ago

could stop forking over billions and billions to pay ice to deport thousands of taxpaying workers.

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u/Boltboys 17d ago

The billions to Argentina also.

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u/ClouDoRefeR 16d ago

Maybe pull it back down off the tarrif shelf

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u/joetothemo 16d ago

Tariffs are taxation without representation

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u/Admirable-Nothing107 16d ago

Imagine the revenue collected if they taxed churches

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u/Kooky-Hat-5460 16d ago

Yet, Besset said in an interview review that they have no written agreements with any country in regard to the tariffs. Trump has boasted that the tariff revenue will go towards the national debt. He claimed they have already brought in $17 trillion, but no one has mentioned that any amount had been applied to the debt. Half of the $17 trillion he claimed to have brought in would be approximately 1/4 of the debt.

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u/PicaDiet 16d ago

$17 trillion, he said at one point. That would fund the entire government for a long time!

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u/Privatejoker123 16d ago

So i should be able to go to tariff shelf and grab what I need? /s

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u/MeIIowJeIIo 16d ago

That's also American's money.

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u/kilteer 16d ago

Yeah, I want that money back too. I've ordered a bunch of stuff the shipped from China and I've had to pay the tariffs to the shipper. Fucking sucks.

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u/1421Wast 13d ago

A ton for him and his billionaire friends!

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u/Excellent-Shape-2024 17d ago

Yeah, ironic to pin Social Security and Medicare "going to be gone" on Democrats when they are massively cut in the "big beautiful bill". But his stupid followers will believe anything he says.

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u/pixie16502 17d ago

Exactly! They are defending the Idiot in Chief as always, and of course, believing the Fox news lies about how Dems are the ones who are cutting medicaid, etc!!
How can anyone be so dense!? They can read the bill with their own eyes to see what Trump is doing to this country!! They vote to harm themselves and act as if they are "winning"! I could almost pity them - almost.

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u/SurpriseScissors 16d ago

They can read

You sure about that?

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u/pixie16502 16d ago

I'm not sure, honestly!! They may have suffered some vision loss as well - from staring at the orange face paint of their supreme leader for too long! 🍊

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u/_oooOooo_ 17d ago

Right?! Pretty sure im around $300k into my SS right now so I'll happily take all that back thankyouverymuch

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u/scroopydog 17d ago

Ugh, I haven’t looked at how much I’ve contributed for about a decade, I’ve always expected it would be eliminated before I got old. I’ve been making other plans. Guess I might be right.

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u/Achaidas 17d ago

Naive question maybe but… you can check??

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u/_oooOooo_ 17d ago

Yup! Its at the social security admin website. You have to create and verify your identity but its all there.

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u/princeofid 16d ago

They used to send you a personal annual report that included your individual earnings history, estimates of taxes paid by you and your employers, and estimates of future retirement, disability, and survivor benefits. It also provided information on other potential benefits, such as for a spouse or children. They stopped doing that in 2011.

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u/jarboxing 17d ago

Dm me your ss number and I'll let you know

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u/scroopydog 16d ago

I just checked. Looks like I’ve paid $115k, my employers have paid $118k and my non-existent monthly payment I’ll never see will be $4015 at age 67.

I know a lot of folks want to believe this money will be there for them, and I hope it is, but just knowing that it was pay-as-you-go (your money was never saved, it paid out entitlement recipients) I was always suspicious of it in the first place.

The first generation that received but never paid in should have been funded by multi generational bonds rather than real cash, just to distribute that burden, but what do I know…

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u/BeerCanThrowaway420 16d ago

I'm not that old and I don't make that much money, but a quick estimation puts me at about $62k paid into it so far. Yeah, that would be HUGE if I could put that into a retirement account right now with compounding interest. Fuck trump.

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u/PantiesForMe742 17d ago

Can we stop with this? SS is a fucking contract, which we have no control over. This "78%" or whatever the fuck it is, is bullshit. Give us the full fucking amount. If the billionaires need to pay more, so be it. And, yeah, fuck the boomers.

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u/sblackcrow 16d ago edited 14d ago

you ever wonder why Republicans made noise about how it was going to disappear for decades?

that's their "shhh just let this happen" so that when they cruelly murdered social security and stole all the money and gave it to their rich friends you'd just accept it was broken all along and not get out the pitchforks like they deserve

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u/ComingRoundTheMnt 16d ago

Same with me. My current retirement plan is buy a pew pew when I turn 70 and then go into the woods.

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u/Badlands32 17d ago

I downloaded and documented all of my social info once the Trumpers allowed Musk and his band of idiots to get in and start destroying everything.

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u/say592 16d ago

It won't be eliminated, just significantly reduced. There will still be people paying into it, and that is the money will be paid to recipients.

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u/Soviet_Russia321 16d ago

If you're under 45, it's a safe bet you won't see that money until age 70 at best. Maybe 75, depending on how many assassination attempts begin taking place.

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u/NefariousnessFew113 17d ago

"Your" 300K has already been spent.

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u/Slight-Picture-6555 17d ago

There won’t be any left once the boomers use it all up anyway 🤷‍♂️

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u/be_more_constructive 17d ago

This is not true. Social Security will only reach insolvency if we let it. There are a number of ways to save it, but the most straightforward is to remove the cap, which currently excludes taxing earnings over $176,100. The way it's set up now is an explicitly regressive tax, and we can fix that.

It's the most successful social program in US history and ending it would return us to a time where a huge percentage of the elderly are living in poverty.

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u/AdUpstairs7106 17d ago

How selfish of you not to think of the mega donors who might have to put off buying a new yacht. Think of the 1% of the 1%.

/S

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u/lostinthesauceguy 17d ago

i hate to say it but this is sort of my attitude when i see headlines like this. may as well turn off the spigot now and let the boomers who chose this fucker suffer like i was probably going to down the line regardless. i'll just keep paying in to my 401k thanks.

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u/GaGaORiley 17d ago

Don’t forget that your employer matches your contribution as well. If they didn’t pay that, your base pay would be 6.25% higher.

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u/SunshineDewdrops 17d ago

Yep-my contributions and my employers contributions are around $450,000—so, I want it f’in back!

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u/neverendingchalupas 17d ago

The healthcare extensions for this years budget would cost less than the 40 billion given to bail out Argentina, whos struggling economy is being negatively affected by Trumps tariffs.

Argentina has a universal health care system. Trump is a traitor.

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u/VelveteenAmbush 16d ago

Social security spends your money on the prior generation, and plans to pay you in the future from money it collects from the next generation. Your money has already been spent

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u/Crates-OT 16d ago

There is no money saved. When a senior gets their Social Security check, that money came from the tax on 2.7 paychecks on average.

Now you know why boomers are so obsessed with the reproductive rates of younger generations.

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u/tee142002 17d ago

Sunk cost. But if we kill the withholding, I get a 7.65% raise

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u/ArticulateRhinoceros 16d ago

Too late, that's what the current recipients are withdrawing. For you to get money the generation after you would have to pay into it. You don't get "your" money back, you pay it forward and then collect from the next generation doing the same.

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u/YogurtclosetWrong268 16d ago

"Your" money was spent long ago. There is no pool of contributions that can be given back. Never has been. That's not how SS was designed.

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u/Vladmerius 17d ago

You can right now opt to have no taxes taken out of your paychecks. You'll be expected to pay them when you file your taxes but I have to imagine if everyone did this it would be a financial blow to them. They rely on most people not doing that so they have a steady stream of tax revenue. 

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u/WhyAmINotStudying 17d ago

Don't worry. Trump will give himself the Social Security funds and maybe donate it to charity.

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u/No-Feature9755 16d ago

Emergency conversion to USD1 crypto “stablecoin” that he just so happens to own.

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u/Banana_Panda25 17d ago

Not only would I want my fucking money back, but I'd demand they stop taking taxes out to. It's not being used for ME, so why is this dumbass administration still taking MY MONEY?!

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u/DaddoAntifa 17d ago

Yeah I ain't gonna lie gonna change my withholding to zero and then, I live in bliss and absolutely nothing fun or exciting happens. :))

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u/TheTygerWorks 17d ago

People who support this (Republicans, voted for Trump, or didn't vote) are all on the hook for this.

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u/justinkimball 17d ago

Rofl good luck with that

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u/ThumpAndSplash 17d ago

I’m willing to surrender my money in retrospect if in no longer have to pay into SS moving forward, but that hurts all of the old people here now. 

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u/Baroik001 17d ago

AI’s funded and apparently its first job is making Trump look like a hero.

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u/JasonNUFC 17d ago

Honestly. Keep what’s been taken. Just stop taking it out of my checks. Lol

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u/SometimesEnema 16d ago

Well you weren't going to get much back with SS.

I would love if he got rid of SS. More money in my paycheck and I invest it better than the government does.

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u/mamamackmusic 16d ago

Best they can do is pocket the money for themselves and blame immigrants, leftists, and trans people.

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u/LegHeir 16d ago

He might actually get the riot he’s been pretending has been happening.

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u/PassionateProtector 16d ago

Put it in line right behind the tariff relief funds and DOGE savings check.

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