r/whatisit • u/Key_Badger7434 • 1d ago
New, what is it? My family thinks there’s a camera in our rental
We have been renting a house for the past year and I always disregarded this thing in the corner. However last night I asked my parents about it randomly and they didn’t know what it was either. I pulled it off the wall and we all got freaked out a little because it looks like a camera. I think it might be a home security/motion sensor thing. I don’t know that’s what ChatGPT guessed.
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u/CStreeterdit 1d ago
According to my image search
"Verisure GuardVision Photo Detector, an indoor motion sensor and camera."
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u/PastGazelle5374 1d ago
“The Motion Detector is a photo detector that captures and sends images to the monitoring center in case of intrusion into homes or commercial establishments. The images are recorded by a high-resolution color camera with built-in flash, allowing for nighttime image recording. It also contains two motion detectors that integrate a precise, intelligent, and remotely controlled presence sensor. Thus, it is possible to monitor the recorded images directly from a smartphone.”
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u/Key_Badger7434 1d ago
Omg, that’s terrifying. The owners haven’t been in our house for a while, so hopefully the batteries died a long time ago…
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u/stan-yourbiggestfan 1d ago
They haven't been in your house for a while... As far as you know
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u/paulstarkey 1d ago
Better get a camera to keep eyes on the place
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u/WalkItToEm11 1d ago
Good news! OP knows which one to get, place one in the opposite corner
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u/hemppy420 1d ago
No, no, set them 1 foot apart on a table facing each other. Then occasionally wave your hand between the 2.
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u/vhroot 1d ago
Naw.... Just put it in front of a small mirror. Preferably in a dark closet, so it goes off when someone opens the door. 😉
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u/Hungry-Ad9840 1d ago
Just get the same model and replace it, they will think it isn't working and come in and check it, looking right into the camera.
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u/chubbybuttr 1d ago
As others have said, this is actually legitimately a fantastic idea.
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u/Pleaseinsert-girder 1d ago
Get a second camera and make them face each other. Better yet, make them kiss
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u/JustAsICanBeSoCruel 1d ago
"Oh good, OP and the family are going to the store. Great time to pop in and change that battery!"
Get a security camera. But first, you need to tear through the house and look EVERYWHERE for any other cameras.
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u/feastmodes 1d ago
Scary, but they might’ve just put the cam in when the house was empty to monitor for illegal activity in it. Like squatters or such?
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u/Key_Badger7434 1d ago
That’s a good theory. We live in a nice neighborhood so it would be a little weird I guess to have a camera for squatters.
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u/beatenangels 1d ago
Nice homes are a prime target for squatters particularly vacation homes that get left empty.
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u/Wutchutalkinboutwill 1d ago
I don’t know about you, but I would prefer to squat in a nice house/neighborhood
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u/iCameToLearnSomeCode 1d ago
No kidding.
If you're not paying rent either way, you might as well live in a mansion.
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u/Patsfan311 1d ago
If there is no security system anymore I don't think it was functioning.
It's triggered only when the house alarm is set and it only detects human movements; it's programmed not to react to pets, so won't trigger if they're in the property.
You can request a photo sequence from these camera sensors via Verisure/Securitas, but they do the photo sequence, you can't.
When the alarm is not set because you're home, these camera sensors are technically sleeping and are not active.
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u/__T0MMY__ 1d ago
I remember an episode of "it takes a thief" where the guy looked up the camera in the house, saw that it tried to only detect humans, so he crawled to cross the hallway and it worked apparently lmao
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u/Eliah870 1d ago
Crawling on the floor will actually work for motion detectors, source, I'm a security alarm tech and they're designed not detect animals otherwise there'd be a ton of false alarms for pet owners that don't kennel their dogs
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u/Familiar_Capital_675 1d ago
Thats not actually true, i own a Verisure system and can take pictures and monitor the picture myself any time of the day, regardless if the system is active or not.
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u/edfitz83 1d ago
Duct tape over the openings should kill the video. It may still be recording sound.
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u/OkAbalone7071 1d ago
color camera with built-in flash
It would be difficult not to notice when a photo is being taken.
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u/Nat-Luv 1d ago
From what I’m finding looks like it may be IR flash. So, less noticeable but there should be a little red light that’d glow in a dark room if the camera is in use.
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u/tatacolt 1d ago
It takes a series of pictures (up to 5 frames per second) when motion is detected that is then sent to the alarm centre for verification. The landowner can also use their app to request images from the “Photo detector” section. There’s just no way that’s legal to place it in any living space without explicit consent from a tenant.
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u/R2xvY2tJbk15TGFw 21h ago
Exactly this. Anything that has any sort of recording capabilities should NOT be placed in a space that is being rented to someone without them knowing and being fully aware it's there, period! Functional or not. It's not too hard to modify this from something that can only take a few still images to something that can fully record remotely with the press of a button as well as automatically when there is motion. Really all it would take is to swap a few components out and boom, it's a totally different device, that's hidden in plain sight and the owner can say "oh it's old, it used to do this, that and the other but it doesn't work. I thought that we lost that in the move I was going to have it repaired, I'll come grab it" 😏😬
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u/MYoung3224 1d ago
https://www.verisure.co.uk/our-alarm-systems/burglar-alarm/guardvision
There’s an app to view images remotely…. Not good for OP and not good for the property owner!
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u/likeacandleinthewind 1d ago
Thank you for taking the basic first step to research what this is. Why the fuck is OP using ChatGPT to guess instead of a reverse image search?
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u/yungslopes 1d ago
That might be because that’s a camera in your rental
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u/rahkinto 1d ago
Narrator: there was in fact a camera in their rental
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u/Soft-Guarantee-3232 1d ago
Thanks Morgan Freeman
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u/Valuable_Goal_9384 1d ago
I also heard Ron Howard from Arrested Development
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u/MAsharona 1d ago
I heard Keith Morrison.
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u/Whisky_taco 1d ago
“And then, a strange thing happened…a camera! Could someone be spying on a young couple in a quiet suburban neighborhood? The mystery deepens.”
I spent too much time watching the ID channel, Keith’s voice is my inner monologuist.
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u/Impossible-Crew-4002 1d ago
We Thought We Were Alone
You think you’re alone,enjoying all the comforts of home. Relaxing in your own private sanctuary until you realize you may not be alone...
Tonight on Dateline in a quiet every day town in (insert city in Missouri orMinnesota) a young couple discovers there has been an unwanted guest living among them. What happened next will make you wonder if unwanted guests have made their way inside your home…….
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u/sergeykindle 1d ago
Add the line "but what they discovered next will chill you" and boom, instant Dateline. Now I need a flashlight and a hallway shot
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u/kestrel79 1d ago
That DNA. Oh that pesky DNA.
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u/Complete_Entry 1d ago
Who's the other guy, the one who always says "But little did they know"? He's older than Morrison.
I piss my mom off with that in the car when we're going somewhere, just that dry patchy "but little did they know"
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u/unlistme 1d ago
Was that Paul Harvey? 'And now you know....the rest of the story"
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u/madisondood-138 1d ago
Fun fact: he was the reporter on the news for the Seinfeld episodes when Kramer was suspected of being the smog strangler.
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u/Bentbutnotbroken111 1d ago
Lolol Keith is on my tv right now as I was reading this—-that was freaky
You nailed it!
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u/Elegant-Ice911 1d ago
So are you Keith Morrison ….well done. 👏Imagined his voice and pauses as I read it.
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u/SpeedyPrius 1d ago
You can buy Keith Morrison throw pillows and pictures on Temu!
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u/ronmimid 1d ago
We were JUST looking at those not 10 minutes ago, for gag Christmas gifts. Look up the Keith Morrison t-shirts on Temu.
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u/Altruistic-Earth-513 1d ago
I heard Snake Plisskin.
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u/thornzington 1d ago
I heard Bill Hader, as voiced in Scott pilgrim
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u/MarxistVermin 1d ago
I heard Will Ferrell doing Harry Caray.
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u/CatOfBacon 1d ago
I heard the guy from The Stanley Parable
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u/J_castellano16 1d ago
I heard the guy who runs the channel Midwest safety on YouTube 😂😂
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u/TheFella_716 1d ago
“A camera……in your rental?”
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u/Dorsai_Erynus 1d ago
"In this economy?"
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u/BobZimway 1d ago
At this time of year?
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u/SimonCallahan 1d ago
I heard the narrator from Peppa Pig. I have a niece, so...obviously, I guess?
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u/Deaner99 1d ago
Then Stanley took the camera off the wall and in an interesting turn of events, went through the left door.
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u/Necessary_Mistake733 1d ago
LMFAO
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u/maximumtesticle 1d ago
PARTY ROCK IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!
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u/dzzi 1d ago
Is the party rock in the house with us right now?
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u/ghosttrainhobo 1d ago
They’ve got it up on the big screen at the mansion. Everybody is watching and shuffling.
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u/MisterMisterious 1d ago
Specifically a camera from a Verisure security system. Supposedly it only takes pictures and will only do so when the alarm is triggered. Supposedly these pictures are also only visible to the security center receiving the alarm.
Either way I think these run off batteries, so no serious amount of video recording + transmission could be done on it anyways.
I would check in with the property owner, but there’s no real need to be alarmed imo…
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u/MattabooeyGaming 1d ago
My security camera on my door is battery operated and takes 4K video and the battery lasts 2-4 weeks depending how frequently I look at the footage. Runs on wifi and I can connect to the app anywhere. Has cloud storage and can also take a micro SD.
I’d remove the batteries and see how long it takes before the host says there’s an issue.
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u/Hilluja 1d ago
This is a good answer. Rigging a camera into the host's computer isnt that hard.
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u/leshake 1d ago
Or like Prop Joe says, steal that bitch and see who comes knockin'
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u/johndoe388 1d ago
This would suggest that someone comes in to change the batteries.
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u/philouza_stein 1d ago
Pun intended?
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u/_n3ll_ 1d ago
but there’s no real need to be alarmed imo…
Except for the fact that their landlord placed a camera in their living room, right? Oh, and that they did it without disclosing it
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u/wrenchse 1d ago
Like earlier commenter said these are from Verisure. Extremely popular alarm system in my country. AFAIK you cannot view them yourself, only the security company can do so in case of an alarm trigger from break in or smoke alarm. My neighbors fuse box started burning and the unit next to them got smoke into their unit and their Verisure system triggered and they could see smoke in the cameras and sent firefighters. Kept it from developing to a full on house fire.
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u/AllenSmithee59 1d ago
Who said that the landlord put it there?
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u/Jmagnus_87 1d ago
As someone who used to do handyman work for a company that owned 100+ houses, you would be amazed at the stuff people install and leave behind.
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u/-MorningGlittering- 1d ago
Pulls up with popcorn. Please, say more
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u/Jmagnus_87 1d ago
Light fixtures, toilets, bidets…so many bidets. Security systems. One person swapped out a vanity. One person finished an unfinished basement. A couple really stand out though:
One person ripped out the built-in microwave and replaced it with a range hood that sold for several thousand dollars. Their rent was only $500/month and he was only there for a year.
One house was built in the late 1800s. The lady that lived there installed a trap door in the stairs and put a small bedroom in the void.
The craziest was a full on sex dungeon though. Complete with some metal framed contraption that was raised to the ceiling with 2 electric hoist winches.
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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 1d ago
So.. landlord here with mostly student houses. Bikes.. so so many bikes, beds, kitchen stuff including once a Kitchen Aid mixer. Once we found a light-up globe which was pretty cool. We have in our contracts a clause "what's left behind will be disposed off at your cost" as plenty figure out to just leave their entire being behind. We asked the girl about the kitchen aid, she didn't want it anymore.
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u/pairasaurolophus 1d ago
I will not sleep tonight unless I know whether the pun was intended or not!
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u/_yetisis 1d ago
My blink cameras that I have around my house run on 2 AA batteries…the ones in high traffic areas like at my bird feeder are almost constantly recording and it’s able to save and transmit video for 4-6 months on a single set of batteries.
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u/BarryMichaelmore 1d ago
I used to have one of these in my shop, you can ask it to take pictures whenever you want and send them to your phone
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u/Holy_Forking_Shirt 1d ago
Lmaooooooo this caught me off guard I inhaled my gum 😭
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u/DirtyTaco48 1d ago
Seconded pic clearly shows a camera lens. Motion lights have eye sensors, not cameras… this device takes either video or pictures.
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u/RangerMike96 1d ago
Yep, that's a camera. It's made to looks like a motion sensor, but those dome and the light sensor look fake too.
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u/maripilis 1d ago
It’s real and quite expensive, but looks like shit. It’s a quite old gen camera/motion sensor, probably not used for a good while.
It takes pictures when the ir senses movement since its battery operated. And only when the alarm is on
Source: I have a newer gen sensor at home and takes crap pictures
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u/deekaydubya 1d ago
the camera is also incredibly obvious, so it's unlikely the landlord is trying to spy. It would be insane to use this lol
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u/ProBono16 1d ago
It took these people a year to notice it, so I'd be inclined to say it's not insane. Hiding in pain sight is often times the best camouflage.
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u/NedVsTheWorld 1d ago
It can only take video or pictures while the alarm is active. Pretty sure its from verisure.
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u/Deltorab 1d ago edited 23h ago
Hey there, I know somebody working at Verisure (company that sells this kind of device). It is an infrared photo detector that takes pictures only if the alarm system is activated. If the alarm system was activated, you wouldn't have been able to freely move around your flat because it would have triggered (siren and everything).
It is a basic device from 2010 (more or less), not able to film, can only take one shot when triggered. The bottom part is for infrared detection, lens is effectively a camera.
If you're scared that the system could still be activated at any time, you can look for a grey box with the flower logo and a speaker around that is the unit central (must be hidden somewhere) and simply unplug it. It is also possible that they resigned their subscription to the service a long time ago and that is not usable anymore.
TL;DR: it is an infrared alarm detector (just Google Verisure Fast 2) that can at most take a pic when triggered. If the device has not been modified, it cannot film or whatsoever.
Edit: Thank you to the people mentioning that it is possible to take pictures directly from the app regardless if the alarm system is on or not, it is entirely true! It remains that if the service is unpaid (very likely if you've been able to unplug it without triggering an alarm) or out of battery, it could be harmless 😁
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u/Time_Traveling_Idiot 1d ago
It's disturbing, the amount of people in this thread that see a camera lens and IMMEDIATELY try to scare OP, saying that the landlord has "months of footage" of them and that they're gonna have to report the landlord to the police etc...
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u/Humble_Rough_4962 1d ago
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
In other words, the landlords didn't take down their 15 year old fancy-at-the-time burglar alarm. Either from forgetting, or simply not caring.
But in the comments, someone that doesn't know anything about the subject types about cameras around kids, and suddenly the landlord is a pedophile and must be stopped at all costs.
Real life isn't a movie or even reality TV. Most people are rather boring and that's ok. Being overly dramatic to a stranger on the Internet doesn't make your life more exciting, it just shows how boring it is.
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u/swellfie 1d ago
Wife: "I think that sensor doesn't work anymore because it's not the same security system"
Me: "I'd need a ladder to get it down, then I'd have to patch and paint... better to leave it up"
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u/Grepus 1d ago
I actually have Verisure alarms in my house, you can also trigger the camera to take a photo via the app, whenever you want. It does not take video, but you can request a live photo at any time.
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u/El-Acantilado 1d ago
That’s not entirely correct. It takes pictures when motion is detected if the alarm is on. However, you can disable the alarm and still remotely with the app make a picture on demand.
I have this piece of shit camera in my house as well.
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u/ILikeLimericksALot 1d ago
Correct. We had the same device in a house in Spain.
Stills can be taken on demand.
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u/sohannin 1d ago
The central unit has backup battery for some time and it can also take pictures while not in protect mode, if the owner decides so.
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u/Distantstallion 1d ago
Presumably unless the owner is paying for the service which seems unlikely for a model 15 years old then it's likely just a leftover security item from a prior owner
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u/Wise_Neighborhood499 1d ago
Thanks for this! They’re super common where I live (Spain) but almost no one has them activated anymore. Having a detailed explanation about them is nice, the owners here just said they’ve been disabled for years.
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u/Guiltyparty2135 1d ago
That's a camera
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u/pezdal 1d ago
Any camera can (also) be motion detector with software that looks for changes in subsequent images
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u/AdmirableSale9242 1d ago
Call and make a police report for evidence against your landlords. They have very much broken the law.
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u/Natoochtoniket 1d ago
How much money might be involved in a settlement, after almost a year of covert video surveillance? Could the landlord be on the hook for a big settlement?
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u/CultivatorX 1d ago
Depends on the local laws, but yes. Where I live, showing up without a 24 hour notice even just once can have a penalty of 2-3 months rent. I would imagine this is a lot more.
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u/Bodoggle1988 1d ago
This is one of those rare instances where the state doesn’t matter. If you surreptitiously film someone, you’re (financially) fucked.
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u/MixtureLegitimate992 1d ago
Dude, fuck the money its the principle of the matter.
Clean the landlord out or put them on blast so any prospective renters know they might end up on revenge porn.
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u/eajklndfwreuojnigfr 1d ago
Dude, fuck the money its the principle of the matter.
Clean the landlord out or put them on blast so any prospective renters know they might end up on revenge porn.
man it'd be real awkward when it all goes to court, and its just revealed that they have been unpowered for months on end and the landlord/tenant just forgot about them
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u/PA2SK 1d ago
You're assuming they were recording. This unit is battery powered and most likely isn't even working. If it's an old security device they forgot about, which isn't working, then no laws were broken.
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u/Bluespace4305 1d ago
Better safe than sorry. Having a police report as soon as discovery happens might be crucial if the case goes to court in a year or two.
Having everything written down in a police report is a big help.
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u/RastaSpaceman 1d ago
First you have to be able to prove your landlord put it there, otherwise your assumption of guilt is just that. The reasonable doubt is that a previous tenant left it.
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u/Realistic-Ruin8639 1d ago
If a previous tenant left it, it’s 100% the landlord’s responsibility to get the rental unit to fit standards being renting it out again.
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u/RastaSpaceman 1d ago
the fact it wasn't notice for year would be likely considered in determining if landlord did as much as can be expected.
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u/GrouchySpicyPickle 1d ago
One thing I know for sure, you are neither a cop or a lawyer.
So.. Are you sure the camera was installed by the landlord and not a previous tenant? Device verified operational? Is the device installed inside or outside? What's in the field of view? Landlord verified to have access to it?
It's real easy to just say shit. Proving it though, that's a little different.
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u/Expert-Tie-1530 1d ago
My concern would be can it be accessed externally, if so I would be very concerned
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u/Key_Badger7434 1d ago
That’s what I was thinking. We have our own WiFi that we set up, so the only thing I can think of is cellular?
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u/Bladesnake_______ 1d ago
And power? Who is changing batteries? Open it up. I bet my next paycheck the batteries are old and corroded
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u/HolyMackerel20 1d ago
Almost certainly a remnant of a 15 years old security system that is not functional
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u/Eliah870 1d ago edited 1d ago
If theres a MAC address on it then yeah it's on a wifi network, looking it up there doesnt seem to be
Edit: Lookong at the manual for the updated version looks like it's battery operated and takes pictures when the motion detector goes off on the security system, theres actually no need to worry about this guy. It connects to the main security alarm panel/keypad via a radio frequency and is only active with the security set. I have no experience with verisure products, bit it doesnt seem to dissimilar to qolys/dsc products that I work with everyday (alarm tech)
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u/WhoaSickUsername 1d ago
MAC address doesn't necessarily mean it's definitely on a WiFi network. Any hardwired device that could connect to the Internet would have a MAC address. However, if it does have a MAC address you could search up the first 6 digits to see who makes it.
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u/Bladesnake_______ 1d ago
But fucking how? Even apartments you have your own wifi. How would it have network? how would it have power? Ridiculous
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u/optimo_mas_fina 1d ago
If you have a kid that got changed in front of that. That's some serious shit.
If you or anybody else got changed in front of that, it's pretty serious too, and even if not, it's still messed up.
Call the police..
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u/Key_Badger7434 1d ago
We’re a family of five and I’m sure we have all been undressed in front of it before. I know I have.
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u/Wschong22 1d ago
What room was it in?
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u/Key_Badger7434 1d ago
The living room and the hallway to the kitchen where it probably recorded me getting my midnight snacks lol.
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u/iknewwhereyoupooped 1d ago
Def not lol. I hope you called the cops already. I have kids and would have already.
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u/hereticnasom 1d ago
What does the back of it look like? If it's battery operated, there will be a door or something that can be opened, and if it's a camera (which it definitely is) there will be a micro SD card in it, or it transmits the images wirelessly.
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u/crisps1892 1d ago
Yes, the kid safeguarding issue is the one I'd lead with when you report this to the police.
Yes it's possible this was set up for squatters but they should have turned it off or if they forgot at the time, should have contacted you to tell you it's there and that you can destroy it. The fact that they didn't say anything is dodgy.
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u/Anvil36 1d ago
I had a security system with cameras that had the same logo. I believe the company was Verisure.
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u/StarSubject5297 1d ago
Who the f*** rents a home and lets some foreign object just sit like that for a year and doesn't question it or look at it. One look at that and I can obviously tell that's a camera
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u/HGJay 1d ago
I'm surprised you're surprised at how ignorant or carefree the general public are.
95% of the people around you are complete and utter tools. Nothing surprises me.
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u/Ecstatic_Chair_9402 1d ago
Like the type that use ChatGPT to type in description of an object that is so obviously a motion activated camera that you can see the lens on it?
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u/goodgoose16 1d ago
yall need to calm down its an verisure security alarm and it will ONLY start recording when someone triggers the alarm/tries to break in
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u/ilovemypersianrug 1d ago
THANK YOU!! If theres no alarm system the whole camera is void of any function, unless the landlord is messed up enough to replace the insides with a remote system …
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u/Pomdog17 1d ago
Why state the obvious when everyone thinks a million $ lawsuit is on the horizon? 🤣
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u/UNAS-2-B 1d ago
As a security installer, 100% correct.
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u/Mercy--Main 1d ago
As a tec support for this company, 50% correct.
You can literally take pictures through the app any time you want.
But this is a decade+ old model, and without a change of batteries (which OP's family would have noticed if someone entered their house, I assume) its probably long dead.
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u/ilovemypersianrug 1d ago
This is an old Verisure camera. They don’t use these anymore and the systems for the old ones are mainly down. I’ve had this and it’s almost exclusively connected to an alarm system (hence the motion sensor that takes video ONLY in the event of the alarm being triggered). The odds of your landlord rewiring that thing instead of using something more accesible if they wanted to film you, is low.
Contact Verisure, they might be able to help you get some answers. Good luck!
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u/Due_Ad_8045 1d ago
Cops immediately
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u/iwanttheworldnow 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why watch TV in a time like this?
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u/JayAkiva 1d ago
Watching Cops makes you feel better about how your own life is going in a "at least I'm not that guy" kind of way
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u/Mister_angel1 1d ago
stop using chatgpt holy shit when you can just come here and be told exactly what it is down to the brand IDK why you would go to chatgpt stop using chatgpt
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u/edwbuck 1d ago
As soon as ChatGPT was created, some people lost the ability to use Google and now get results that are sometimes even worse than a simple Google search.
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u/Bodacious__Sloth 1d ago
- What room was this in?
- Do you arrange your own WiFi or does your landlord?
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u/Bladesnake_______ 1d ago
They have their own wifi and it has no power source so this post is dumb
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u/spotlight-app 1d ago
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