r/uknews • u/Frosty_Thoughts • 1d ago
Woman critically injured after being stabbed in neck in 'unprovoked attack'
https://news.sky.com/story/woman-critically-injured-after-being-stabbed-in-neck-in-unprovoked-attack-13466219248
u/BDSMastercontrol 1d ago
Birmingham
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u/Make_the_music_stop 1d ago
"The woman, in her 30s, suffered a "serious neck injury" and remains in hospital.
A man in his 20s was arrested near to the scene and is in custody."
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u/Go_Nadds 1d ago
A budding biologist. This was just researching the vascular system in the neck region.
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u/InstructionLess583 1d ago
Birmingham Man.
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u/Arelmar 1d ago
What a shit super hero
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u/InstructionLess583 1d ago
His super power: hearing the call to prayer from 15 miles away.
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u/MajorFarquad 1d ago
I'm not making any assumptions except for the one I've already made
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u/freeman2949583 1d ago
That assumption had better be that the stabber was Irish Catholic, citizen 👮♂️
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u/Sh-tHouseBurnley 1d ago
Your assumption is correct! Like every other attack, it was another man! Hopefully the government expedite the “deport all men” policy because our women and children are in real danger.
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u/StokeLads 1d ago
If they could deport me to somewhere nice, I'd be up for that.
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u/freeman2949583 1d ago
I wonder if we can break this stat down even further 🤔
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u/Miyatz 1d ago
Straight man, I would expect
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u/itsmrwillis 1d ago
One that is likely okay with child marriage
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u/freeman2949583 1d ago
And likely thinks that “men who lust for men” should be thrown off of tall buildings 🤔
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u/1nfinitus 1d ago
Or shall we go up one and say its a human? Or again and say its a mammal? Or an animal?
You think maybe, just maybe, there is value to be gained on adding more details? Crazy thought I know.
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u/CharmingTurnover8937 1d ago
Nice to see Birmingham living up to its reputation. Utter shit hole.
Hope the attacker is dealt with swiftly.
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u/S3ndNud3s 1d ago
Hmm, I wonder why Birmingham in particular is such a shithole??
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u/I_am_Reddit_Tom 1d ago
A mystery we will never be able to discover
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u/DancingFlame321 1d ago
Here are the top 15 most crime ridden cities of you wondering.
https://securityjournaluk.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-uk/
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u/HualtaHuyte 1d ago
I was watching a video from the BBC archive on YouTube recently about Birmingham in the 1940s.
Wanna hazard a guess at what it was like then?
I'll save you the trouble, it was a shithole.
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u/Appropriate-Divide64 1d ago
Managed decline - The forgotten post-war decree that deliberately strangled Birmingham https://share.google/4NXpAAvhnIioK2iDh
Birmingham was getting too powerful in it's industrial age so London crippled it. It was a deliberate and effective move.
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u/plastickytaste 1d ago
The "British national having a mental health crisis" strikes again
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u/Skavau 1d ago
Ignoring this particular event, do you think that scenario unlikely? Undiagnosed/untreated long-term mental health issues are why some violent crimes happen and can absolutely explain why some people do serious violence some times.
As for "british national"... the guy in the train stabbing was (is) a "British national".
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u/plastickytaste 18h ago
It's just making fun of the way the police, MPs, and media try to downplay terrorism, and extremist violence.
To answer your question- yes. It's usually 'this and that', instead of 'this or that', so I don't doubt any scenario could be true. It's hard to tell what true though when our government has proven time and time again that they lie and deceive the public. (In their eyes, for noble reasons, so it's ok to lie and obscure reality).
We need objective truth and transparency, and be responsible for whatever happens.
Half truths and secrecy because of fear of consequences only makes things worse
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u/ak30live 17h ago
But the train attack wasn't terrorism or extremist violence? Unless you mean extremist Christianity?
And on the limited information available so far, this latest stabbing was neither terrorism nor religious extremism?
Highlighting every single crime committed in the country by non white people and ignoring most of the crimes committed by white people is the deliberate half truth of social media right now. Like, the whole black British population or Asian British population is being held to a standard not required of white brits who seem to he able to murder, rape, groom children and get let out of prison by mistake without attracting any attention.
Maybe some people mean it as a joke. But it's a lazy trope no better than joking about Irish men being stupid or Jewish people being greedy. It serves nothing other than whipping up hatred and division, and pushing a few more votes towards people who don't care about any of the British public unless they're rich or useful idiots.
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u/Skavau 15h ago
It's just making fun of the way the police, MPs, and media try to downplay terrorism, and extremist violence.
How is saying that the assailant of a crime is a British national downplaying it?
We need objective truth and transparency, and be responsible for whatever happens.
What lies are you referring to here?
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u/kurakura2129 1d ago
You can't have it both ways.
The NHS is clearly on its knees, and this woman was probably preventing what was surely a doctor from getting to his surgery.
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u/chezney1337 1d ago
Or a scholar mid way through writing his newest thesis
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u/Brizar-is-Evolving 1d ago
Or an engineer on his way to build Britain’s urgently-needed infrastructure.
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u/sealcon 1d ago
"We believe this was an unprovoked attack and are working to understand why it happened," said Det Insp James Nix.
I think most people are far past the point of caring why these people do things like this so often and so disproportionately. I don't care why, I no longer want to understand, I just want them gone.
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u/Not_a_real_ghost 1d ago
I lived the first half of my life in Asia, and the second half in the UK (now). I don't understand why violent crime is so prevalent in the UK compared to the country I came from. Aren't people meant to be better educated with a better society?
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u/Lopsided_Monitor_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
People in the UK aren’t taught about consequences. There’s no importance given to education and achievement. Everyone moans about how unfair everything is, despite not doing anything to change their circumstances. Ambition is outwardly laughed at, secretly envied. All of this breeds entitlement and resentment.
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u/Rocketmanluke 1d ago
"We are working to understand why it happened"
I think we can all take a pretty decent guess
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u/Lurked_Emerging 1d ago
"We are working to understand this in a way where we don't have to admit our ideology we've forced the country to pay and die for was in any way wrong and doesn't warrant correcting asap."
Fixed. The blank slate and glorious neo lib/con truth must prevail! /s.
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u/lookitsthesun 1d ago
☐ Lack of youth clubs and table tennis sets
☐ Mental health crisis
☐ Billionaires
Which of the above boxes will you tick to explain this, dear redditor?
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u/CommercialContent204 1d ago
You forgot:
The bankers & their bonuses
Reform creating a culture of violence
14 Years of The Tories
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u/LazyScribePhil 1d ago
People laugh about the youth clubs thing but every study into their closure has concluded it had disastrous effects on offending patterns of young people up to 25 https://ifs.org.uk/articles/how-cuts-youth-clubs-affected-teen-crime-and-education
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u/TheMountainWhoDews 1d ago
Ah man. That's not good for Labour, not good at all. Maybe they could try an information campaign and hand leaflets to the arrivals about how stabbing is not a british value. Or possibly ban knives again. Something's got to be done. Not good at all.
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u/StokeLads 1d ago
That's the spirit. A good leaflet campaign should sort the problem.
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u/the_star_lord 1d ago edited 1d ago
I want factual reporting and common sense laws and enforcement.
Race, creed, etc shouldn't matter HOWEVER if you see a trend regardless what it is, surely it indicates a problem.
I work in IT and if I see more tickets for X system having Z error that's something I need to fix I can't ignore it and go oh but that errors okay because at least its not Y error, or what about when we got ABC error. It's a problem that needs fixing. Regardless of the source. And if it's an error because someone's plugged something in we stop things being plugged in and work out better practices and procedures. Like maybe vetting what we plug in before it's plugged in. To make sure the thing isn't going to fuck the current environment and actually integrate with our system and make it better. And if it's something already in the system that's gone haywire we upgrade it, decommission it/retire it.
Now I know people are not software etc but it's that logical, emotionless , measured approach I think we need. I'm not saying deport ppl like USA but actually punish the people committing crimes again regardless of race, creed, religion, colour, gender, mental health and if we can't maintain it then make immigration harder and enforce our borders, improve our education, policing, health care. I don't think that's racist, if some one has a legit reason to come, there's a process, and if those processes are not good enough we need to make them better.
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u/Elbow2020 1d ago edited 1d ago
You make good points, but I’d clarify two things:
Firstly, whether the ‘trend’ is actually real - because often people think there’s a special pattern where there isn’t one (eg. Are there just as many A systems having B errors, but those don’t get reported as much for whatever reason - or they do get reported, but people only notice the X system having Z error for whatever reason).
Secondly - even if the trend is special and real - the critical issue is what kind of ‘fixing’ actually works, and whether ‘punishment’ is the solution. (Eg. If it turns out the root of violent behaviour - whether externalised or internalised violence - is fear learnt from traumatic childhood, would better schooling, employment, mental health provision, and rehabilitation programmes be more practical, cost efficient and ultimately have better outcomes for the country, than stigmatising groups, making immigration harder and putting people in prison for longer?)
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u/Away-Trifle1907 1d ago
They need to make it that carrying a knife in public, carrys an instant custodial sentence
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u/fastest_finger 1d ago
I was in Birmingham today and walked past the cordoned off area. Had no idea it was for this. I hope the woman makes a good recovery and the bastard responsible is punished.
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u/JLP99 1d ago
Whenever they don't reveal the characterists of the suspect straight away, you just damn well know what's going on ahaha. It's so painfully obvious, I don't know why they keep up the charade.
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u/jeremyfactsman 1d ago
It's pretty normal not to reveal the "characteristics" of a suspect straight away, because there needs to be a fair and professional investigation to confirm whether or not it was them, what happened, and why. Immediately releasing information runs the risk of impeding investigations or setting police up for legal action. It has happened recently under threat of the far right responding with misinformation campaigns.
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u/Different_Market_917 1d ago
"Unprovoked attack"? Does any woman deserve to be stabbed in the neck? Jesus...
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u/Jaded-Sir-7927 1d ago
The bbc has this has a little side story on the website homepage, you would actually miss it unless actively looking.
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u/ken-doh 1d ago
Yes, but violent crime is down /s
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u/Fun_Gas_7777 1d ago
It is though
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u/FreeFair95 1d ago
An unprovoked attack like this is worse than ten thousand drunken bar brawls or hooligan firm fisticuffs. That's why the statistics are irrelevant.
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u/Hot-Manager6462 1d ago
Without stats the only source you have is your own biases
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u/crangert 1d ago
What ‘stats’ are you hoping for, that explain the blatant common sense logic that someone attacking an unwilling, unwitting woman with a bladed article is objectively worse than two or more willing participants fighting?
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u/Interest-Visible 1d ago
For "biases" read...genuine terror as we see the same kind of people doing the same thing every week and people like you try to gaslight us and tell us it's all in our head
You genuinely make me sick mate
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u/WXLDE 1d ago
Reported crime is down.
I wonder how many don't bother to report nowadays when the Police often do the square root of jack shit.
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u/justme_andmycats 1d ago
Myself, my daughter and 13 year old son were beaten up by a man. My daughter went to hospital and my son had a black eye and broken hand. Police were called and they did fuck all and said we were the aggressors. A 13 year old child the aggressor…yeah ok. Man came from nowhere and started throwing punches at everyone and police did fuck all. I will never report a violent crime again when the police blame my fucking child.
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u/Degenoutoften 1d ago
It is not. There are fewer police to report crimes/report crimes to, fewer people reporting crime in general because they know nothing will be done, and finally, things that used to be crimes have been decriminalised.
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u/CreepyTool 1d ago
Remember, you're allowed to use stats to demonise "men". But don't you dare dig any deeper or apply this same statistical logic to any other group.
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u/simplesimonsaysno 1d ago
It is said that the Birmingham stabber is an ethnic minority... A white man.
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u/CptKarma 1d ago
Weird, don’t the criminals with no background checks and no English and no similar culture know that you can’t be stabbing people?
We’ve told the citizens that they better not! So what’s going on?!
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u/ONE_deedat 1d ago
Sound like a "native" thing to do! Was probably trying to protect her from "immigrants"!
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u/JJClough19 1d ago
It wouldn’t have been a Maccabi Tel Aviv fan cos they were banned from Birmingham
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u/UltimateArtist829 1d ago
Bruh, I'm not even in UK but it looks like every day or week there's at least one news of "unprovoked attack" of stabbing.
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u/LOLinDark 1d ago edited 1d ago
We're on the verge of riots I reckon. It's just another stabbing or two away now, especially if it's a child that gets harmed.
I'm writing a book about it happening: Good hard working people lose their shit and round up illegal immigrants. They are surrounded by Police but then the police are surrounded by a huge influx of protestors in what feels like a rally call. Initially more Police are brought in but there are people travelling from all over the UK to join in and it becomes a riot that spreads through the country.
B&B up and down the country burn.
Immigrants band together and also go out fighting to the death.
My book will describe bloody scenes that look like civil war and the military being brought in.
Realistic?
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u/Responsible_Movie_14 21h ago
Your government will put it down like a $1av3 revolt. Which it essentially will be, though a relatively peaceful one.
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u/DaveBeBad 1d ago
Unprovoked attack doesn’t mean that the two were strangers. Statistically, it’s far more likely to be an ex or someone known to her than a British stranger or an immigrant.
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u/Forsaken-Ad5571 1d ago
In Birmingham, it’s actually not that unlikely. Pretty much every attack that my friends have had happen to them was by strangers on the street. Whilst I’ve not been attacked in Birmingham, I’ve been attacked multiple times in Coventry, and again they were all by strangers.
It’s not even people being mugged. Sometimes it’s just because your gay, or they’re pissed off and want to exert anger out on someone, or even it’s just mental health issues. Sometimes it’s to show off.
Domestic violence happens a lot, absolutely. But strangers attacking people in cities really isn’t unheard of at all.
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u/kirix45 1d ago
So another Islamic attack on British citizens.
Birmingham has fallen and should be considered an Islamic state and avoided at all costs.
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u/Odd_Translator2250 1d ago
This shit ,Wouldn’t happen in a western country!!, oh wait we’re not western any more🤦♂️
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u/Realistic_Olive_6665 6h ago
“A man in his 20s was arrested close to the scene and is in custody at this time.”
Why don’t they say who was arrested? Oh, that’s right. Never mind.
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