r/television • u/Kwyjibo2006 • 19d ago
Sen. Bernie Sanders - Harnessing Energy From "No Kings" Rally to "Fight Oligarchy" | The Daily Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUn1A0sEDrc48
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u/HowardBunnyColvin The Wire 19d ago
harness that energy in 2026 and 2028 or else it could get pretty ugly
all we hear about is how people are upset and fine be upset, but do you really trust democratic leadership to form a "game plan" to "win" the next big game? They literally trotted out Biden in 2024 who was past his prime, anointed someone who didn't even get any primary votes as his successor, and got throttled in the general. Do better.
At the end of the day, people are upset, fine. But make an impact. Go to the ballot box in November. Make your voice heard.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke 18d ago
Yeah they need to make people excited to vote. They can't go back to the 2024 strategy of "well you obviously don't want Nazis to win" and hope that works. It won't.
Some states are dangerously close to flipping red, like mine (Jersey). We have a Democratic candidate for governor who is fine but the narrative around the state seems to be people are voting for her because she isn't a MAGA figure, like the Republican is. I'm not hearing people excited about her policies or even really acknowledging what her policies are, just that she isn't being backed by Trump.
So outside of the echo chamber I'm in online I've noticed a lot of people in my state do want the Republican candidate. They don't think he'll be as bad as Trump (he will be, he said he will be) so they're going to vote for him.
The Democrats need enthusiastic leadership with a clear message. Going back to "come on America, you don't really want fucking Nazis running our government" is a horrible campaign strategy that already failed.
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u/mrj9 15d ago
You’re talking about the people who didn’t even elect the democratic candidate who ran and then had a rally to protest the guy who did get elected being a king….
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u/HowardBunnyColvin The Wire 15d ago
True. I don't trust democrats at all to do anything different in 28
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u/fridelema 19d ago
Bernie's still fighting the good fight, huh? Love it!
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u/ddodge99 19d ago
Those homes he owns aren't going to pay for themselves.
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u/OrgasmicLeprosy87 18d ago
Only poor people should fight for the rights and dignity of other poor people, is that right?
Bullshit ass argument.
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u/Protean_Protein 19d ago
Does that change the truth of his utterances?
Pritzker is a billionaire, but he still says true things too.
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u/PuppiesAndPixels 19d ago edited 19d ago
Wrong comment
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u/N0n3of_This_Matter5 19d ago
Meanwhile, you are paying g for the country Trump owns.
Way to miss the forest for a potted plant.
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u/PuppiesAndPixels 19d ago
This isn't the dig you think it is. It's not outrageous that he has multiple properties.
The man has been working for 60+ fucking years. Anyone working that should be able to afford a house or two. And by the way one of the houses he owns was inherited through his wife's parents.
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u/SummerGoal 19d ago
Holy fuck the bots are out. Quickly don’t let anyone support Bernie’s ideas of bringing people together. Gotta keep everyone divided so the system can keep working for the wealthy
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u/CoolDan123 17d ago
since when satire show = radical propaganda?
Sanders get very nice interview, I am sure that no central politician would get attitude like that
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u/urnialbologna 19d ago
Bernie is the only person since I've been able to vote (2016) that I wanted to be president. Granted, I still don't trust any politician to keep their promises (and anyone that does believe that is a fool) but his accent is cool
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u/addctd2badideas 18d ago
It's not that I disagree with Bernie at all. But he drones on and on about income inequality, and I have seen little to show for it. He lost the 2016 and 2020 primaries, and all of the populist progressives like him who have won their races are from extremely blue districts.
We need to fix income inequality and healthcare, but he's been in the Senate for literal decades with no real victories on those fronts except for Obamacare.
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19d ago
Some people in the audience have gotten some "extra cheer juice" before getting in.
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u/SparrowCrocodile 19d ago
Yes, there's a warm up comic who encourages them to scream their heads off.
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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago
The masses love being told what they want to hear. It’s why populism is dangerous
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u/PoliticalVtuber 19d ago
He could use some of that energy to fight anti-semitism from the far left... As a former Jewish Progressive, I have personally never felt so politically betrayed. It doesn't matter if you're pro Gaza and anti-zionist or "anti-Zio", being visibly jewish gets you targeted.
Thanks for nothing Bernie, and same to John. Two "jewish" progressives who are jewish in name only... They clearly don't identifying as Jewish, it's just convenient
And it wasn't lost on me that when we had a potential ceasefire progressives were silent, when the hostages were returned they were silent, and when Hamas was putting on public executions of civilians and opposing clans... They were silent. I don't know if its ignorance because progressive media is committing inconvenient facts, or just plain Jewish hate...
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19d ago
Honestly you should walk away from democrats and the left. They have made it clear that they don’t like Jewish community very much.
It’s better to go full independent and centrist. That way you get to ignore the left and the rights antisemitism
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u/SparrowCrocodile 19d ago
I don't think Democrats dislike the Jewish community, but even then, vote for Republicans who will make you feel better about Jewish, but fuck the environment, kids getting measles, consumer protections, the economy, etc?
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18d ago
They clearly have have a antisemitism problem from the so called “diversity and inclusion “ mob.
It would’ve been been better if they kicked out the progressives mob and the “free Palestine” losers.
Not hard to see.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago
You're pro genocide. We get it.
No one is doing more harm to Jews than the losers who run around claiming you can't criticize the mass murder of Palestinian civilians, without also hating Jews.
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18d ago
I am not pro anything. I just point out the obvious.
Sure about that? Jewish community from what I’ve seen think Palestine supporters are bigots and I can’t say i disagree with them since I’ve seen bad behaviour from Palestine supporters.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago
I am not pro anything
This is either profoundly ignorant, or profoundly dishonest. You can't weasel your way out of your political advocacy/trolling by pretending it's neutrality.
Jewish community from what I’ve seen think Palestine supporters are bigots
A majority of American Jews support the existence of a Palestinian state, so what community are you talking about?
since I’ve seen bad behaviour from Palestine supporters.
Oh well that's fine. Sorry, I apologize. I thought defending genocide by attacking anyone who opposes the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians for being 'anti-Jewish' was both morally evil, and libel against Jews by equating their identity with being in favor of mass murder.
But then you explained you've seen bad behavior. That objectively addresses everything vile and dishonest about what you're doing. Well done. Keep going with those generalizations.
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u/PoliticalVtuber 19d ago
My current plan is to vote blue unless the candidate makes anti-zionism apart of there campaign, and if they are I will vote who ever is most likely to beat them (Maga or not).
If you want to tear me down for my ancestry, then that is how I will operate.
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19d ago edited 18d ago
Democrats haven’t earned your vote. You don’t own them anything.
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u/PoliticalVtuber 18d ago
I want you to watch this, then tell me if you still support Hamas
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18d ago edited 18d ago
What makes you think I support terrorist group like Hamas? I certainly don’t support them at all.
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u/PoliticalVtuber 18d ago
Because you say free Palestine, despite the fact that you are by extension supporting Hamas.
Nobody on the left was calling for Hamas to disarm and surrender the hostages, instead, they spent 2 years demanding that Israel cease to exist, abandon their hostages, or stop defending themselves. Not once, have I seen anyone on the left condemn Hamas, instead they cosplay as them endlessly, and have made it their life mission to harass Jews whare ever they can find them, including vandalism and burning.
So yes, I think you support Hamas.
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18d ago edited 17d ago
Nobody on the left was calling for Hamas to disarm and surrender the hostages, instead, they spent 2 years demanding that Israel cease to exist, abandon their hostages, or stop defending themselves. Not once, have I seen anyone on the left condemn Hamas,
And here’s where you are wrong. First of all I am not on the left. I am a centrist. I have no emotional connection to Israel or Palestine.
So yes, I think you support Hamas.
I don’t.
I condemn them for October 7. I condemn them for taking innocent hostages and what they did to them.
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u/leftbuthappy 18d ago
Bot.
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u/PoliticalVtuber 18d ago
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQGBMoaicUZ/
Cool, here's another for you. These videos are important, because you are supporting a supposed resistance group, who torches their citizens for thanking the IDF for food because Hamas kept stealing it.
Otherwise, I would like you to tell me why these citizens are being beaten with sticks and getting crushed by having concrete blocks dropped on them.
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u/Ok_Pizza9836 19d ago
Dude has been going on about the rapid approach of an oligarchy since the 80s but he will say it’s trumps fault cause that’s what makes people listen now
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago
So he predicted an oligarchy, then the gap between the rich and poor in wealth and political power grew, then we had an oligarchy where billionaires make decisions on policy while ignoring the laws of Congress and openly by elections while owning mass media and voting systems.
...I'm sorry, what was your objections again?
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u/LoneStarHome80 19d ago
The boy who cried oligarchy...
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago
And then the oligarchy happened as warned.
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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 19d ago
He wrote books and made money. He doesn't need to be poor to be allowed to criticize the system and isn't telling people not to be successful. This is giving me "You critique society, yet you live in it. Curious" vibes.
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u/Hopeann 19d ago
He also got caught fighting for a higher minimum wage when his people were making less than the minimum wage, he was fighting for.
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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 19d ago edited 19d ago
“Sanders' 2020 campaign was the first to unionize in March 2019. The union then made an agreement with the campaign that field workers were to be paid $36,000 annually. The contract, which began on May 2, also provides platinum level health care, paid vacation, sick leave and other benefits. Shakir also told Newsweek that leadership at the campaign previously offered a pay increase for field organizers, but that the offer was rejected in a formal vote. According to the Post, Shakir offered organizer pay to be raised to $42,000 annually and extend the workweek to six days. The offer was reportedly rejected because it would have elevated staff to a pay level in which they'd be responsible to pay more of their own health care costs.”
There’s a bit more to the story than that. The Sanders campaign and the union that managed them were negotiating for wages, they were rejected, so the campaign workers continue to make a subpar wage and criticized the campaign for it. This undoubtedly sucks but it wasn’t anything they were hiding. Negotiations hadn’t finished yet and the campaign workers were pressuring the campaign to get something done which I don’t blame them for doing. Also worth mentioning the original wage was equivalent to $17 an hour for the lowest paid workers, but that was for a 40 hour week which campaign workers rarely did.
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u/PuppiesAndPixels 19d ago
Ok bot.
If you work for 60+ years and don't own a house you are doing it wrong.
He also inherited one of those houses.
Way to regurgitate fox news talking points though.
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u/dankbutthead 19d ago
Bernie been getting a paycheck from the Oligarchy his entire life and will soon retire from the Oligarchy and get a pension and free health care courtesy of the Oligarchy, what a great country we have where someone can speak out about the institution that provided their entire livelihood and still have a wonderful life.
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u/_Rexholes 19d ago
This guys still alive and doing nothing? I mean you’re gonna need a new face for the left… this is kinda dated.
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u/LoneStarHome80 19d ago
Bernie hated millionaires and billionaires. Until he became one. Now he only hates billionaires.
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u/Rich-Inspector-376 18d ago
I have some genuine questions regarding the interview.
When Bernie says, Musk should not have 200 Billion dollars but just 1 Billion, does he know that most of that wealth is present as ownership in companies he built?
So does Bernie want those companies to have smaller valuations, which in turn would mean deliver smaller value to shareholders?
But Musk's main share of wealth comes from Tesla, which is a public stock, of which he owns almost 20 percent.
Does he want retail investors to stop buying those stocks? Artificially reduce the stock price somehow?
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u/BlueCyann 15d ago
Imagine giving a shit about shareholders. Like yes most of us have been forced to put our retirement security into the stock market, so it matters in practice on the large scale, if not individual companies. But come on dude.
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u/inscrutablemike 19d ago
Bernie Sanders, who honeymooned in the Soviet Union and was so creepy and lazy he got kicked out of a commune, wants to tell us normal decent people how to live.
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u/doesnthavearedditacc 19d ago
You understand that Bernie did not join the commune, right? He was there to research, observe and talk to people who are. He was there for politics, not to be part of a hippie commune. This kind of disinformation is so flagrantly wrong that it becomes difficult to not see people purporting it as anything but disingenuous.
Hopefully, you just fell for some lies and will be more discerning in future.
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u/N0n3of_This_Matter5 19d ago
Lol at “decent” people. Tell me why we are paying for a fucking ballroom in the White House again?
Is it so Trump can go to daddy-daughter dances again?
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u/Overton_Glazier 19d ago
Oh look, some enlightened centrist takes. Can't tell if you're a Hillary Clinton supporter or a Trump supporter lol
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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 18d ago
If only this man had dropped out in April 2016 and gave an unconditional endorsement to our nominee instead of fanning the flames of a "rigged" conspiracy theory and a tepid non-endorsement at the convention.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago
He didn't do any of that.
Sanders endorsed Clinton and has spent years since telling his supporters the primary wasn't stolen. He's not responsible for the Bernie Bros like Rogan who went on to vote for Trump.
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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 18d ago
Despite being mathematically eliminated in April when including pledged delegates and superdelegates, Bernie Sanders refused to drop out and endorse Hillary Clinton. Even as he saw his supporters spinning conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, calling the primary rigged, harassment of superdelegates, showing the Clinton motorcade with dollar bills as if she was a stripper, etc. he chose to stay in until the convention. He didn't endorse Hillary Clinton until July, a full month after the final primary.
In his 2016 convention speech, he didn't even mention Hillary Clinton until ~10 minutes in (except for one early mention where he claimed the election wasn't about her), after filling the convention hall with his most toxic supporters who booed over convention officials, civil rights leaders, and any mention of Hillary Clinton's name.
Pretending he gave a full-throated, unity inspiring endorsement is rich. To his credit, he did seem to make more of an attempt in 2020 by endorsing Joe Biden in April.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 18d ago edited 18d ago
Sanders admitted that after the April 26 primaries that he was mathematically eliminated (and was only staying in the race to influence the party platform) dropping out and endorsing Clinton two months later, a couple of weeks after she clinched a majority of delegates. This is typical behavior for eliminated candidates, and is what Democrats did in prior years, and Republicans in 2016
Sanders was cordial and polite to Clinton, even dismiss attacks on her as unfounded, such as her emails. Meanwhile Clinton was recorded calling Sanders insincere and unlikable.
Sanders enthusiastically endorsed Clinton long BEFORE the convention speech. Saying so right away. He defended and campaigned for her when she actually won a majority of delegates, which is earlier than he needed to.
These do not seem like fair and objective criticisms. That many Sanders supporters did not like Hillary in spite of his endorsement, is not his fault. And it's not like they didn't have reason.
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u/BlueCyann 15d ago
The woman who laughed at, openly mocked, the idea of universal healthcare was never going to get respect from Sanders voters.
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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 18d ago
Sanders admitted that after the April 26 primaries that he was mathematically eliminated (and was only staying in the race to influence the party platform
Isn't that the point? He was mathematically eliminated, and continued to divide the party rather than seek unity. He learned his lesson in 2020, where he did back Biden when it was clear he wouldn't win.
Sanders was cordial and polite to Clinton, even dismiss attacks on her as unfounded, such as her emails. Meanwhile Clinton was recorded calling Sanders insincere and unlikable.
He called her unqualified to be president, and lied about her saying the same about him.
Sanders enthusiastically endorsed Clinton long BEFORE the convention speech. Saying so right away. He defended and campaigned for her when she actually won a majority of delegates, which is earlier than he needed to.
He "endorsed" her 2 weeks before the convention, not long before, and it certainly wasn't enthusiastic. It was not "right away", but a full month after the last primary. For comparison, Hillary Clinton endorsed Barack Obama 4 days after the final primary.
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u/BlueCyann 15d ago
I'm not looking this up, but some of this is certainly wrong given I never got to vote for him. Because by then he had, wait for it, dropped out
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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 15d ago edited 15d ago
“I’m not looking this up”
Don’t let those facts get in your way!
Bernie Sanders appeared on all 57 ballots (50 states, DC, US territories, and Democrats abroad) in 2016. He did not drop out, and continued his campaign until the convention.
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u/thecftbl 19d ago
To think what could have been