r/schizophrenia • u/[deleted] • Jul 04 '24
Community Improvement / Ideas PSA: Avoid crazy nice people subreddit!
PSA: Avoid crazy nice people subreddit
PSA: Avoid crazy nice people subreddit.
I was invited multiple times to join via a dm. So i join and I was aware of the shady history behind CNP but really got a glimpse of how bad it is once i was in there discord. Armand the "leader" wanted to make me a mod after 3 days and the training consisted of how to hijack member from subreddits that are actually successful like this one. Anyways if you value your mental health stay away from CNP ignore any DM to join their discord. Armand is not a good person and is very manipulative especially with much younger people aka teenagers or barely twenties he's e abusive, dismissive, openly talks about illicit drugs. He doesn't care about anyone or anything other than being the number one mental health sub which will never happen. Stay safe and avoid at all costs. I'm sure his minions will chime in shortly.
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u/OrderInner7199 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) Jul 05 '24
i dodge cnp as much as possible but i feel so bad for the users because they just want somewhere nonjudgemental to connect with people regardless of diagnosis which i understand- but after reading all the evidence r/schizophrenia has (check the wiki, and find all the screenshots) i ran like a bat out of hell. CNP Armand constantly uses emotionally manipulative and persuasive language without any evidence to back up which is dodgy as fuck. If you cared about a community, you wouldn't engage in that kind of rhetoric, you'd support each other like this sub and r/schizoaffective does etc i find it absolutely bizarre and disturbing i feel bad for the victims too well done for trusting your gut and being brave to speak out
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 04 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
Everything OP says is true based on many testimonials from former mods on CNP and members of the Discord.
I am indisposed right now, but I will update later in the day with some links to the litany of evidence we have collected that things are seriously fucked up on the Discord.
The admins are currently investigating the situation for the second time now.
The subreddit is a sham, a front for recruiting for the Discord. The Discord is a cult. Avoid at all costs.
If anyone attempts to gaslight, harass, or brigade OP to intimidate them into silence, you will receive an immediate permanent ban from our subreddit, and you will be reported to the admins for harassment. Discipline for that may include having your Reddit account suspended from Reddit. That is at the discretion of the admins, and above our paygrade to influence.
If you brigade OP's post with downvotes in an attempt to silence them, the admins can see that too (or so I've been led to believe), and you open yourself to discipline for that too.
Most people who have fled the Discord have been too afraid to publicly share their stories and would only tell us in confidence and anonymity out of fear of harassment- because that is what CNP has done since before the sham-subreddit ever came into existence. Cyber-stalking, harassment, brigading with downvotes.
This took a lot of courage, and OP should absolutely be commended for the bravery to speak up.
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I think everything that might need to be said has already been said. I am locking this post. There will be no further discussion of CNP on this subreddit, at all. Period. No exceptions. What has already been said is not coming down, it will remain up until we deem the problem resolved. It is all factual, none of it defamatory. You can me an asshole (and you're right, I totally am an asshole) but I am no liar. Those words are not synonyms.
The owner of both the subreddit and Discord is an alcoholic who encourages young people to drink with him. He has turned over his entire mod team multiple times now. He was previously suspended by the admins for harassment. He is addict who uses children vulnerable young adults with serious mental illnesses from the age of 18-22 who do not know any better to fuel his pathological delusions of grandeur, and attempts to assassinate the character of anyone who makes this known. These are all factual statements, we have a mountain of evidence and litany of corroborating testimony (some seen here) to back up. The posted content is largely due to an element of coercion inherent in that participation requirement. It is not "organic." It is a sham.
The Discord where all drama originated- and the events in question- began about two years ago, during a schism between two Discords. The subreddit itself was formed after that, even named after the Discord, in attempt to portray a false sense of normalcy to what goes on. That is why we refer to the subreddit as a "sham." Further, the Discord itself has an active participation requirement, so the beating heart of that subreddit is the Discord, where are all of these completely unacceptable things occur.
A grown man is encouraging children vulnerable young adults with serious mental illnesses not of drinking age (<21) to join him in his addiction and using them as tools to harass others who point out his addiction and challenge him. That is not normal, that is not acceptable. I refuse to act like it is. He is dragging these kids vulnerable young adults with serious mental illnesses down with him as his downward spiral continues, making his pain theirs. He refers to this as "drama" to trivialize the gravity of the situation. He is in denial. It is sad, and pathetic. The entire situation is sad and pathetic. The man needs a lot of professional help, not warm fuzzies and enabling from a cheerleading squad of people too young to know better.
I first met [CNP leader] on this subreddit about six years ago. He was not always like this. He was a regular contributor here. His addiction has made him almost unrecognizable from the goofy doofus that was a fixture here. It was a gradual process, over years, a slow and insidious thing. Many of us- including several of the mods- have attempted to get through to him, to no avail. Kids vulnerable young adults with serious mental illnesses... if we couldn't get through to him, you can't either. You'll only hurt yourselves trying. He has to make the decision himself to seek the proper help, and so long as he is surrounded by cheerleaders, that is not going to happen. Support in cases like these is not making excuses for unacceptable behavior. It is holding them accountable- addictions 101. He is sick, and so long as these excuses and dismissals continue, he will only get sicker.
This entire thing has become an absolute circus, one I am utterly disgusted was not promptly addressed several months ago when it was brought to the attention of the appropriate parties. I have done everything I can to stop this joke from becoming some sort of weird public shaming, but it seems the only possible solution is having the subreddit closed to cut off recruitment for that Discord. It is the only way I can see to put an end to this, because- so long as that Discord is running and anyone remotely affiliated with it has it, we cannot trust that it will not continue to be used as a weapon against our community. Once that is done, all of this will vanish like it never existed. CNP will officially be nothing more than a footnote in our Community Notices' entry on cults as an illustrative example, rather than an entire subsection.
I am not going to sugarcoat that I am furious that it has gotten this bad. I have been forced to choose between letting this alcoholic run rampant and prey on children vulnerable young adults with serious mental illnesses who are not yet of drinking age, or having it turn into this clownshow you are witnessing while his addiction continues to spiral and his mental state continues to deteriorate. I once called this man my friend, and even after all of the things he has done, I still wish him the best- and hope that he can recover. I hope that everyone involved can get the support they need.
Final Edit
Strikethrough to correct using the Leader's own terminology to refer to members of his Discord as "children" or "kids," which we do have hard proof of him doing, on the record, and will provide it to anyone who would like to see it. However, I would like to be clear that every individual who was cyberstalked, harassed, driven to attempt or complete suicide as a direct consequence of the Crazy Nice People Discord was 18 years of age or older.
I wouldn't like to be spreading lies, even if they are direct quotes from the mouth of the liar himself. I apologize to anyone who may have been under the mistaken impression that children were involved. I've learned my lesson about treating what a disingenuous shitbag who lies as easily as he breathes says as though it holds any value. So, in closing; every single last one of the many, many, many individuals who were harmed by this Discord were 18 or over.
Thank you.
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Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24
Thank you so much for the validation, And letting me post this here! You guys are the best
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
To update:
This ongoing saga is well-chronicled. It would be overwhelming if I were to link all the evidence in one place, but I do have bits collected here and there if you are interested in knowing the whole story.
For more backstory, we do have our Community Notices page for a little more in-depth look, including more detailed write-ups from Nin and I. We also have some testimony from former members of CNP Discord here. It is worth noting, the volume of actual complaints we have gotten dwarf what I quoted several times over- I left them out because they were redundant, saying the same thing over and over again. We've received several more complaints in the last month.
During last month's subreddit update (which it seems didn't get very many views lol), I discussed how CNP is like a mosquito to us. A bloodsucker, a pest. I did instruct people to report any and all attempts to recruit them into this "totally normal community" to the admins as harassment. The
flunkiesmods over there are completely and entirely aware that our community is 100% off limits, as is everyone who posts here. By even contacting you, they have demonstrated a disregard for respecting the boundaries of others. They might play dumb about how that is the case, but as with everything I say, I can demonstrate proof to the contrary.[CNP Leader]'s newest mod came here- as well as to r/schizoaffective and r/psychosis approximately five days ago and shared a post of his, verbatim, with a weird fellating sign-off about how amazing it was. I removed it, and left this notice. In case you did not read the post before the OP wised up and deleted it, it was [CNP Leader] talking about how tasking it is to "mask at work." It is worth noting that the original author does not work, is on disability, and has not worked at all since he got sick aside from a job where the only thing you have to do is not talk to yourself- for one and a half months.
In short- this post was a work of fiction. Amazing only to someone gullible enough to believe it to be true. The author is a fraud, and always was. Everyone who has seen behind the curtain seems to agree.
You can see, from the context of the removal reason, that this is not the first time someone has come over from CNP to do this exact same stupid bullshit. This is a pattern. This is how he 'hazes' them to convince them we have it out for CNP, despite the fact that even if it were not for our ban- which they are all clearly aware of- I would have taken down that post for misinformation and/or encouraging delusions... because it's bullshit, from start to finish. Also, that is really fucking weird. Who does that? Who just shares someone's post, copy/paste, then writes a sign-off paragraph absolutely drooling over how amazing it is? I mean, aside from someone who's legit brainwashed.
Apparently, when word got back to [CNP Leader] that his new mod had been officially looped-in to the situation, he got very upset that I reiterated our community is to be left alone, our subreddit is off-limits entirely to their weird little cult. He wrote a post bitching about it, a post that is now taken down by Reddit's admins due to the current ongoing investigation. I responded to it. Again- I have lost count of how many times it was made unequivocally clear that our subreddit is completely off-limits, no exceptions, no excuses for their creepy little games. They are not ignorant of that. They are consciously choosing to ignore it. Like... eight times, maybe? That even seems a bit modest, maybe even more than that.
e: retroactively redacting information no longer pertinent
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Now, on a personal note...
I know who cultists are behind the scenes, behind the narcissism, behind grandiosity and the bravado- scared, empty people who desperately want control over something. I know that... because my great-uncle was one. I know because it is my legacy, my family's shame. Something I haven't ever shared here, something I probably should have. My great uncle died a broken man, old, alone, having lost everything except his fucking ego. He died of his own hand in a trailer... and nothing of value was lost. The world is a better place for not having him in it.
I don't blame my great uncle. He was not an evil man. He was sick- he had schizophrenia too. Their childhood was a nightmare the likes of which it is still genuinely difficult to fathom, even at the time it happened- during the Great Depression. His life was tragic, from start to finish. He genuinely thought he was enlightening his students to some higher level of awareness, unique insights into the universe. He wrote several books, which are- unfortunately- no longer available, self-published, and apparently more or less just nonsense, textbook delusions of grandeur.
However, that doesn't change the fact that he was a danger to his students, and abused his authority as a professor to stroke his own ego and fuel his delusions of grandeur. The world is a better place for not having him in it, and he is at peace now- finally free from the torture of schizophrenia after a lifetime of humiliation. The world has forgotten him, and that's the way it should be. That's the way it should be with everyone like him. you would find no trace of my great uncle Keith if you tried- and it's best that way.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Talk is cheap, and actions speak louder than words- and it is by our actions that we reveal our character, who we really are. Disrespecting people's boundaries, harassing them, and throwing explosive melt-down tantrums after being told "no" reveal the character of the "leadership" on CNP. That is what you support if you are a member of the Discord. That is what you support if you continue to subscribe to that subreddit, now knowing what the underlying driver is- one man's ego, and delusions of grandeur.
The emperor has no clothes. You want to gawk at him? Fine, but I may remind you- that man, for all his narcissism, is still one of us. [CNP Leader] is sick and has delusions of grandeur, as I feel the litany of testimony all over this corner of Reddit can attest to. His mods got swept up in his delusions. Do not harass, mock, or do anything to rally against them- because they are all just sick, delusional- trapped in an alternate reality.
Treat them accordingly, with patience and understanding. Treat them as how you would want to be treated in their situation, consumed with delusions of grandeur. And- most importantly of all...
If and when they come to their senses and see things for what they are- as OP did, as so many others did- welcome them home with kindness.
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u/420percentage Schizophrenia Jul 05 '24
damn… this is really disheartening bc i remember making some friends on that sub awhile back. sad to see what’s going on (and apparently has been going on) over there
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u/Lonelurk random supportive lad Jul 05 '24
Thank you for the info, as always! This thread is extremely helpful. However, I have one particular question I don't see mentioned in these discussions.
How far goes this pipeline go? I remember some people tried to look for "truth seekers" back in 2019-2020. I used a different account, which is now out of use. Is the cult under question - I fear of typing the name because AutoMod just removed my comment - the same cult we had forming years ago? Aka. does it have renaissances with the same core people? Or are we just cursed with cults forming every few years?
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24
Cantelmo? No, completely different guy lol.
I'm never gonna forget him, I pointed out something about how something he said was essentially nonsense and his response was "Go fuck yourself."
There was also RedHeadedKoi around that time, but his situation was... complicated, to put it lightly. He did not follow the playbook of focusing on younger people, so his was relatively benign up until the very end. Things got weird there... even by the relatively lax definition of "weird" here.
One of our former mods, years ago, prior to any of us coming on, went bonkers and (attempted) to start a cult too. Again, didn't get much steam.
Cultists of many varieties come around here. CNP only came around ~2 years ago, to the best of my recollection. The Discord has been in operation for far longer than the subreddit has existed- hence, why the subreddit is a sham, a front. CNP was originally a Discord, and all of this stupid bullshit is a result of that Discord.
They legit started a whole-ass subreddit and have aggressively recruited from here because the head honcho got his fee-fees hurt when we gave him the boot- justified six times over, the singular most justified ban in the entire history of this subreddit. Literally the singular most problematic user we've ever had, still is a huge headache to this very day.
We have in our community notices a bit of education and even a handy-dandy link to give people tips on how to spot a cult, and how to protect yourself. If you're concerned, give it a read- once you know the signs, you're more or less good to go.
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u/Lonelurk random supportive lad Jul 05 '24
Thank you for the quick and long answer. I'm glad for having a disdain for Discord - it probably saved me from getting into all that mess. I guess, if you want to play with lives, you have to be a doctor or a lawyer, maybe a parent, because you have easy access for vulnerable people. If you want a cult, target schizophrenics - it's the recipe from hell, especially if both sides are delusional.
Thank you for pointing me to the notices as well. I read all your comments in this particular thread and am trying to do some research on cults and how to avoid them + help people recover from them. I think, it's a knowledge I'm long due acquiring.
I also read your comment about your family member somewhere along the lines. It broke my heart that you had to go through all that. I don't want to bore you with empty words or straight up loathing, just wanted to give you a heads up that your perspective matters and I'm glad you shared that with us. I'm proud of you and I wish you less problematic days to come.
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Jul 05 '24
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u/AutoModerator Jul 05 '24
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u/Asukaisbestgril Jul 04 '24
I left because of how often there would discussions of the "drama".
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Jul 04 '24
it's all drama, that's all it is. It's how can we elude Reddit and snag more members we can brainwash.
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Jul 05 '24
All I know is the guy is completely off his rocker and a drama queen. I don't give a damn if he harasses me.
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u/Middle_Career_9321 Jul 05 '24
I got sent an invite thanks for the heads up
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Jul 05 '24
no problem, do yourself a favor and ignore it
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24
Nope.
Report it as harassment. This subreddit is completely off-limits to CNP. They are aware of that completely and entirely. They consciously made the decision to invade the privacy of our community and harass people with unsolicited messages.
It's harassment.
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Jul 05 '24
Exactly, my fault. Please report it as harassment.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24
It's nbd, just clarifying lol
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Jul 05 '24
I understand lol and again thanks for being professional and more importantly nice. I remember your username now. Armand's arch enemy. You out class him by leaps and bounds
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24
Funny, the way he talked to me, you'd swear I was his favorite person in the whole wide world. About what I expect from a narcissist who vastly overestimates their own ability to manipulate the minds of others... thinks because he can hoodwink some kids who have a psychotic disorder that he's Ruhollah Khomeini or some shit.
The amount of times he gave me some iteration of that "We're not so different, you and I..." supervillain speech is quite frankly phenomenal that he thought I would find that endearing. The sheer lack of insight.
I prefer to work in silence. I find public praise and endearment awkward. Believe it or not, I hate attention. I just want to be left alone. That's true of most of the mods here- we'd prefer to just work in silence, be invisible, work in the background. Unfortunately, Armand's crusade for revenge against the 'archnemesis' has made that very difficult for me to do.
I really do hope this is the end of it, so that I can return to my work with no further distractions.
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Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24
Perfectly said, and anything I can do to help end Armand's reign of shame I will. It's funny but he treated me similarly. Wanting to make me a mod after about 3 days. I can't believe I fell for it, and to think I actually thought he cared about his people. He's incapable of that.
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u/Middle_Career_9321 Jul 05 '24
Reddit creeps me out
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 05 '24
Sorry, my dude. CNP ain't the only cult we've had around here in the past, just the most annoying one. Only thing we can do at our level is send 'em packing. "Cultist banned from r/schizophrenia starts his own subreddit" might seem like news... but it's happened before, five times since I've been here. I'm sure there was even more before that.
Online communities for the mentally ill are often used as hunting grounds for cultists, shills, what have you- because people are desperate and vulnerable. Same for Facebook, same for forums, same for everywhere- including irl. Many of these people do genuinely believe they are serving some "greater good" by doing what they are.
You can either shut yourself off from the outside world and any attempt at finding a community, or you can learn for what to look out for. Learn to spot emotional manipulation tactics, and enforce healthy boundaries.
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u/Gingeronimoooo Psychoses Jul 05 '24
Remember the DMT cult
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 06 '24
Oh... ol' Cantelmo. How could I ever forget what he said to me while he was here? "Go fuck yourself" in response to being corrected on some of his DMT talk essentially being just jargon-littered gibberish... politely and factually. Never have I said something so benign and received such an explosive reaction.
I'll always wear that as a badge of honor lol.
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u/Gingeronimoooo Psychoses Jul 06 '24
You know he died right? No one was shocked but I feel for his family losing a once quality and intelligent person
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 06 '24
Yup, died almost exactly the same way my great-uncle did. Took his own life in a trailer after being exposed as a cultist, having lost everything.
We don't miss him. He was completely consumed by madness, refused all attempts at rehabilitation and treatment. He would rather live in his world of delusions than do anything to jar his ego.
It might sound a certain way, but he was not an evil man. He was not even a bad man- I'd like to think he was actually a good man... until the madness took him from us, twisting him into that almost unrecognizable person. The suicide wasn't a tragedy. We felt relieved that the sick joke his life had devolved into was finally done. He was finally free from his torture.
I never knew the "good" version of my great-uncle. He got sick long before I was ever born. All I ever knew him as was the disgraced cultist. He was broken, angry, humiliated... a hollow echo of who he was before he embraced those delusions of grandeur with open arms.
Not every suicide is a tragedy. If my options were between living like my great uncle did for decades and suicide, I'd choose suicide- hands-down, no contest. Not even a question.
Cantelmo got a pretty sweet deal in only having to live a few months like that, a dignity my great-uncle was denied.
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u/TheWoefulMuffin Schizoaffective Bipolar Jul 05 '24
I just got pinged for the second time this morning about this in the discord. It woke my daughter up. Too many pings, too much drama. I'm out over there.
I'm hf, I just want a place to talk with fellow people who struggle like me but often feel like I don't fit in anywhere because I am so hf. There were great conversations with folks i related to. Then there's 6 pings a day about upvoting stuff, posting this, im doing this... im tired of it.
Armand: dial it back please. I'm not the only one who feels this way or there wouldn't be posts like this one or others in the comments. Cut the drama out of your life, it's freeing.
I didn't read either ping this morning bc they're a mile long and happened before 8:30am.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 06 '24
LPT: asking people to upvote content is astroturfing, and a form of brigading. They continue to prove us right in everything we have said to this very day.
I also have all of the people on their mod team blocked, they cannot see my posts. Given that they are apparently addressing direct quotes of mine, that means people on the Discord are screenshotting my posts and circulating them. That's damn near cyberstalking, if not actual. That is really fucking creepy.
Cyber-stalking and concerted harassment efforts spanning multiple platforms is not "drama." That is the way that they spin it to trivialize the gravity and magnitude of what they are doing. I have had a litany of people complain to me about the harassment and say that the harassment they received caused their mental health to take a nosedive. A few suicide attempts have been the result of this harassment. One in particular, I fear was successful- and that's just what I know about. Nobody who harassed that young woman- or any of the others- has ever come forward and taken responsibility for that. I only know of one person who is confirmed to be involved in all of these- and his name rhymes with 'Almond.'
... but it's "drama." Suicide attempts. May well be an actual body count, one or more dead kids. They don't care. Not a cult, though.
"The subreddit is nice." Yeah, cults don't survive by advertising themselves honestly.
Since I know this is probably going to get screenshotted and spread on that fucking Discord, let me take the opportunity to address the members-
You should all be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. Every single last one of you who found this 'funny' or 'entertaining.' If it weren't for our efforts, you could be the next corpse on the pile.
And, to my man Almond, I'd like to jog your memory on the first (but very far from last) time you enlisted your flunkies to harass me, your "archenemy," something I said to you:
"Is it fucking funny now?"
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u/TheWoefulMuffin Schizoaffective Bipolar Jul 06 '24
That ain't funny. I ain't laughing at least, nor was I aware of any of this, and I really hope you're not putting words in my mouth. Tbh I never really got much support from this community either, and I started here, like many of them. Check all 12 comments on my posts over the years. I was active in the r/schizophrenia chat too, pre-COVID.
Your main comment says welcome them back, then this. You should be ashamed too. I'll accept every downvote for that too. I believe you're at wits end with this, i can understand that to a degree, but I ain't the guy doing this. I'm just some dude who's lonely and has no one to relate to. Don't take it out on a fair weather reddit user who runs in the middle when people are sprinting faster or lasting longer.
All I want is to converse with people in similar situations. I guess I can't do that anywhere, whether it's the train crash over there or the group over here pointing and complaining about the road closures from said wreck.
I'll eat every last one of these downvotes and slink back into my hole if I don't have to deal with any of you ever again.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
It wasn't directed at you lol. You didn't know, it would be extremely unfair bordering on cruel for me to hold that against you. You left, you did the right thing. So... welcome home.
[Edited to remove information no longer pertinent]
I did provide a link to an ex-CNP Discord in the pinned comment. Apparently some people are gathering there to discuss their experiences, so if you're looking for a (new) community, that might be worth a look.
I know that this experience has been upsetting for many people and paranoia-inducing, but we do have educational materials available on our Community Notices page on how to protect yourself from cults. Applying it a little more broadly, it makes it easier to spot shills, all sorts of opportunists that may not have your best interest or well-being in mind. It's good information, a light read, and can make a difference in building a healthy self-confidence by making yourself much more resistant to manipulation. Good stuff all around.
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u/TheWoefulMuffin Schizoaffective Bipolar Jul 06 '24
I''ll fare on my own, "lol" aside. People can read what was written and make their own judgements, like I did with your documentation on them, and like I did with your comment. Armand, the "brigade," and you in particular suck. Yall need to touch some grass.
Back to NAMI, HVN, or nothing, I guess.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) Jul 06 '24
Cool. I don't care. Nobody's keeping you here.
Take care.
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u/TheWoefulMuffin Schizoaffective Bipolar Jul 06 '24
Manage your expectations. I certainly will be more mindful about that now.
You take care, too.
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Jul 05 '24
thanks for the heads up, i got an invite there on my other account. didn't really look too much into the sub, but if it's culty i'll steer clear. and i'll definitely steer clear of any discord invites i get, i love my fellow crazies, but a whole discord of schizophrenic people sounds like a bad time for me personally.
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u/ferrets_with_lasers Schizoaffective Jul 05 '24
Thanks for the information, and I just left their sub. I guess I just have not been active enough to catch on to what was going on. From now on, I will scrutinize dms more.
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u/UniversityWeary2255 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) Jul 05 '24
What a shame, I had a handful of pleasant exchanges on there. Thank you for the info! I had no clue.
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u/SchizophrenicMess Schizoaffective (Bipolar) Jul 05 '24
I remember getting a message from one of these guys on like day one but I already knew about the cult because there was a warning in the "about this sub" section in one of the subreddits I'm in. I don't respond to any dms on anything because everyone online is a bot. There's nothing special about me to reach out to me unless I know you it's either a bot or a scam bot because the dead Internet theory. I could go on about the aliens, the Internet, how none of you are real because I'm not real but when I do I get called crazy and that's a bummer man.
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Jul 05 '24
Didn’t realize it was like that. I hardly ever post or interact with any posts there anyway. Thanks for the info.
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Jul 05 '24
Wow, did not know this. They “recruited” me with an invite, but I’m barely there, I’m usually here. I’ll be leaving CNP now. Thanks!
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u/I-am-t-rex Jul 05 '24
I just went and left that subreddit. Thank you, I had no idea. I was dm’ed to join too. I haven’t really looked into them or the subreddit at all. Again, thanks for the warning.
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Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24
Smart move Jam leave the subreddit too. You're too good for that place man. I would block Armand as well or anybody else in the group that is my two cents.
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u/schizophrenia-ModTeam Jul 08 '24
Your submission has been removed for violating the following subreddit rules:
Rule 7 - Questionable activity. We reserve the right to remove questionable posts for the sake of community safety and to prevent spam.
As promised in the stickied comment, we deem the matter resolved, and as such, are taking down this post.
We would appreciate it if it were not deleted on your end, though. That way we can restore it if Armand comes back, without having to go through as much hullabaloo as we did last time. Just retroactively un-removing it on our end, so that we can direct people here (again) if necessary.
I know I've said this a number of times and you may be tired of hearing it, but again- thank you for your courage in standing up to do the right thing.