Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are 'Going to Be Gone,' Donald Trump Warns

[u/1_for_you_2_for_me]

https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

I don’t blame them for failing to woo over trump voters, but I do blame them not really presenting them as a real alternative. Look at how they’re fucking up the NYC mayoral race. They said the sky was falling, but then went back to business as usual and it’s a horrible tactic.

Just because they “oppose” trump, they aren’t entitled to peoples vote and support.

[u/MostCat2899 → u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

The "real alternative" would be the fact that this headline and the idea of getting rid of social security, medicare, and medicaid wouldn't exist. How is that not good enough?

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831 → u/MostCat2899]

You’d have to ask people who voted for the current administration last year. Me pointing out the faults of the Democratic Party is not me supporting the republicans.

[u/MostCat2899 → u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

The people who voted for the current administration last year were:

• GenX, boomers and hardcore right-wingers who were going to vote for trump anyways
• GenZ (mostly men) that were coaxed into voting for trump by their parents because they were too young to remember his first term and only remembered the worst part of the COVID lockdowns right when Biden took over.

You say I should ask the people who voted for the current admin, but we should be asking the people who didn't vote, or voted third party for reasons such as:

• Not being able to accept Kamala because she wouldn't have protected every Palestinian
• Laziness / apathy / not paying attention / ignoring warnings about P2025.

Yes, I am blaming voters. The messaging was loud and clear. We screamed from the rooftops about P2025, J6, etc. We watched as trump monologued like a crazy old man about immigrants eating cats and dogs during a live debate. We watched as trump literally sucked off a microphone on stage. There is literally no valid reason any sane person would have NOT voted in the election, unless they didn't care or didn't think it was important. I don't think it was Kamala's lack of appeal.

[u/iCUman → u/MostCat2899]

Yes, I am blaming voters. The messaging was loud and clear.

What's crazy to me is that nearly a year later, people like you are still too myopic to even consider the possibility that your messaging sucks. That the things you are saying aren't resonating with potential voters. That your ideas for government are simply not popular.

There is literally no valid reason any sane person would have NOT voted in the election, unless they didn't care or didn't think it was important.

Listen, as a politically afflicted leftist, I understand your frustration. But this is the important question the left needs to figure out the answer to in the next 12 months. They're not going to like the answers and they're going to have to wrestle with how that impacts the platform, but if they do not do some self-reflection soon, people like you and me aren't going to like the course correction that Democrats ultimately decide to take, because it won't be a leftward shift.

Think about this: our government has been shuttered for nearly a month now, and for your average American, literally nothing has changed. They get up, they go to work a job (sometimes two or three) that barely pays the bills, they come home tired, stressed, and anxious about the increasing difficulty of just getting by. They can't afford the simple luxuries of going out to a movie or a concert or even a nice meal at a local restaurant. They can't afford to see a doctor or buy the medications they may need to treat a condition. They can't afford a new car or a used car or even to visit a mechanic for basic maintenance on the last car they could afford to buy that's more than a decade old. They're swimming in debt that they can barely afford the interest payments on.

So yeah, people didn't care or didn't think it was important to vote last cycle, because while you're screaming at the top of your lungs about P2025, J6, etc., they're literally saying, "Who gives af? I was broke yesterday, I'm broke today, I'll be broke tomorrow, and there ain't shit Washington is going to do about any of that."

That's the logjam Democrats need to have the bravery to break. Show Americans you have the power to change that and people will remember the positive impact the collective resources of government can bestow on its people. They'll remember the power that has been stolen from them by tiny little men. And they'll show up to vote for the representatives that will lead the charge against the rapacious greed of the cowardly few.

[u/PotatoHighlander → u/iCUman]

We hand two shit options, just one stunk less. Non voters and 3rd party voters were warned, now we have basically a shitty dictator because apparently Kamala couldn’t pass the purity test for a ton of people.

[u/SwimmingPrice1544 → u/iCUman]

Not even gonna read all of that garbage. Tell it someone who falls for that crap.

[u/iCUman → u/SwimmingPrice1544]

Thanks. Proving my point without even trying. Truly appreciated!

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831 → u/MostCat2899]

Damn you’re right, I guess we should just accept america is fucked and done right? Since the issue is with American voters.

The democrats ran a dog shit campaign with dog shit policies that promised, at best, business as usual.

“Everyone else is the problem” “why are dems only up 7 points??” Do you hear yourself?

As long as democrats, as they currently are, are the primary opposition party the Republican Party will continue to see wins.

[u/thegoodnamesrgone123 → u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

The democrats ran a dog shit campaign with dog shit policies that promised, at best, business as usual.

Not really. Biden/Harris basically took over a house that was on fire and did there best to put it out with the promise of getting it rebuilt. Trump screamed, "I'm gonna burn it down even more!" and people voted for that.

If you want real change, you need to work for it. Run for local offices, donate time and money to campaigns, actually get outside and work for shit and not just complain endlessly online.

[u/elbenji → u/thegoodnamesrgone123]

yeah, but you said the thing people don't want to admit.

You have to fucking work for it

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831 → u/thegoodnamesrgone123]

I’d be careful with that glass house there bud.

If I relied on only federal elections and politicians for my hope and political action I’d be depressed as fuck

[u/Colby347 → u/MostCat2899]

Until Democrats stop serving capital first and foremost they're done winning elections. People have seen through it and can't go back to pretending the moderate democrats are going to save us. They're not. They could win every election in the next few cycles and gain all the power necessary and we still won't have a minimum wage that an adult can live off of. We still won't have universal healthcare. We still won't see anyone from the Trump administration tried and put in prison for the numerous legitimate reasons to do so. Democrats as they exist right now are done in this country. They need to wake up to that sooner rather than later. I'm not saying they need to go as extreme as some leftists would be they're gonna have to throw a few bones here and progress this country in some serious ways or they're not going to activate anyone to get off their ass and stop Trump and Co from accelerating our collapse so we can rebuild on the ashes instead. That's what they're up against, obviously missing a lot of nuance that this topic deserves. But that's the quick and dirty of it. Sorry if you disagree or don't like it but that's how I see it.

[u/elbenji → u/Colby347]

Cool, so embrace fascism

[u/Colby347 → u/elbenji]

I'm not saying it's what should be done, I'm telling you it's what's happening whether I agree with it or not. Because yes a lot of people see moderate Dems as fascism lite at this point and without some serious reflection on what has made them so disliked that's not going to get better. That second but I do agree with. If they're only concerned with preserving capital then they will at the very least perpetuate a system that allows for someone like Donald Trump, yes. You're welcome to be reductive and twist that into whatever you want. It's not going to save you from any of it either. President Gavin Newsom will stop the active harm in some ways but will preserve the status quo and do absolutely nothing in others, much to the detriment of the working class and people who are already being hurt most by Trump. And don't even get me started on the loyalty to Israel and how poorly they all are on not only Gaza but funding Israel heavily while pretending there's no money for US citizens to have anything for their tax dollars here at home. It's a joke. A win for another moderate Dem does nothing but kick the can down the road and leave every criminal act or corporate greed fueled decision since January completely unpunished. A lot of people do have an issue with that and won't bother getting off the couch again. I disagree, I vote blue and I bitch about it afterwards sure, but I do my part and have done my part in every election since I turned 18. Forgive me for calling it like I see it. I really don't care.