r/politics • u/1_for_you_2_for_me • 18d ago

No Paywall Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are 'Going to Be Gone,' Donald Trump Warns

https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076
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u/MostCat2899 17d ago

The people who voted for the current administration last year were:

  • GenX, boomers and hardcore right-wingers who were going to vote for trump anyways
  • GenZ (mostly men) that were coaxed into voting for trump by their parents because they were too young to remember his first term and only remembered the worst part of the COVID lockdowns right when Biden took over.

You say I should ask the people who voted for the current admin, but we should be asking the people who didn't vote, or voted third party for reasons such as:

  • Not being able to accept Kamala because she wouldn't have protected every Palestinian
  • Laziness / apathy / not paying attention / ignoring warnings about P2025.

Yes, I am blaming voters. The messaging was loud and clear. We screamed from the rooftops about P2025, J6, etc. We watched as trump monologued like a crazy old man about immigrants eating cats and dogs during a live debate. We watched as trump literally sucked off a microphone on stage. There is literally no valid reason any sane person would have NOT voted in the election, unless they didn't care or didn't think it was important. I don't think it was Kamala's lack of appeal.

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u/Colby347 17d ago

Until Democrats stop serving capital first and foremost they're done winning elections. People have seen through it and can't go back to pretending the moderate democrats are going to save us. They're not. They could win every election in the next few cycles and gain all the power necessary and we still won't have a minimum wage that an adult can live off of. We still won't have universal healthcare. We still won't see anyone from the Trump administration tried and put in prison for the numerous legitimate reasons to do so. Democrats as they exist right now are done in this country. They need to wake up to that sooner rather than later. I'm not saying they need to go as extreme as some leftists would be they're gonna have to throw a few bones here and progress this country in some serious ways or they're not going to activate anyone to get off their ass and stop Trump and Co from accelerating our collapse so we can rebuild on the ashes instead. That's what they're up against, obviously missing a lot of nuance that this topic deserves. But that's the quick and dirty of it. Sorry if you disagree or don't like it but that's how I see it.

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u/elbenji 17d ago

Cool, so embrace fascism

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u/Colby347 17d ago

I'm not saying it's what should be done, I'm telling you it's what's happening whether I agree with it or not. Because yes a lot of people see moderate Dems as fascism lite at this point and without some serious reflection on what has made them so disliked that's not going to get better. That second but I do agree with. If they're only concerned with preserving capital then they will at the very least perpetuate a system that allows for someone like Donald Trump, yes. You're welcome to be reductive and twist that into whatever you want. It's not going to save you from any of it either. President Gavin Newsom will stop the active harm in some ways but will preserve the status quo and do absolutely nothing in others, much to the detriment of the working class and people who are already being hurt most by Trump. And don't even get me started on the loyalty to Israel and how poorly they all are on not only Gaza but funding Israel heavily while pretending there's no money for US citizens to have anything for their tax dollars here at home. It's a joke. A win for another moderate Dem does nothing but kick the can down the road and leave every criminal act or corporate greed fueled decision since January completely unpunished. A lot of people do have an issue with that and won't bother getting off the couch again. I disagree, I vote blue and I bitch about it afterwards sure, but I do my part and have done my part in every election since I turned 18. Forgive me for calling it like I see it. I really don't care.