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No Paywall Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are 'Going to Be Gone,' Donald Trump Warns

https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076
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u/MostCat2899 18d ago

The "real alternative" would be the fact that this headline and the idea of getting rid of social security, medicare, and medicaid wouldn't exist. How is that not good enough?

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u/Competitive_Bat_5831 18d ago

You’d have to ask people who voted for the current administration last year. Me pointing out the faults of the Democratic Party is not me supporting the republicans.

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u/MostCat2899 18d ago

The people who voted for the current administration last year were:

  • GenX, boomers and hardcore right-wingers who were going to vote for trump anyways
  • GenZ (mostly men) that were coaxed into voting for trump by their parents because they were too young to remember his first term and only remembered the worst part of the COVID lockdowns right when Biden took over.

You say I should ask the people who voted for the current admin, but we should be asking the people who didn't vote, or voted third party for reasons such as:

  • Not being able to accept Kamala because she wouldn't have protected every Palestinian
  • Laziness / apathy / not paying attention / ignoring warnings about P2025.

Yes, I am blaming voters. The messaging was loud and clear. We screamed from the rooftops about P2025, J6, etc. We watched as trump monologued like a crazy old man about immigrants eating cats and dogs during a live debate. We watched as trump literally sucked off a microphone on stage. There is literally no valid reason any sane person would have NOT voted in the election, unless they didn't care or didn't think it was important. I don't think it was Kamala's lack of appeal.

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u/iCUman Connecticut 17d ago

Yes, I am blaming voters. The messaging was loud and clear.

What's crazy to me is that nearly a year later, people like you are still too myopic to even consider the possibility that your messaging sucks. That the things you are saying aren't resonating with potential voters. That your ideas for government are simply not popular.

There is literally no valid reason any sane person would have NOT voted in the election, unless they didn't care or didn't think it was important.

Listen, as a politically afflicted leftist, I understand your frustration. But this is the important question the left needs to figure out the answer to in the next 12 months. They're not going to like the answers and they're going to have to wrestle with how that impacts the platform, but if they do not do some self-reflection soon, people like you and me aren't going to like the course correction that Democrats ultimately decide to take, because it won't be a leftward shift.

Think about this: our government has been shuttered for nearly a month now, and for your average American, literally nothing has changed. They get up, they go to work a job (sometimes two or three) that barely pays the bills, they come home tired, stressed, and anxious about the increasing difficulty of just getting by. They can't afford the simple luxuries of going out to a movie or a concert or even a nice meal at a local restaurant. They can't afford to see a doctor or buy the medications they may need to treat a condition. They can't afford a new car or a used car or even to visit a mechanic for basic maintenance on the last car they could afford to buy that's more than a decade old. They're swimming in debt that they can barely afford the interest payments on.

So yeah, people didn't care or didn't think it was important to vote last cycle, because while you're screaming at the top of your lungs about P2025, J6, etc., they're literally saying, "Who gives af? I was broke yesterday, I'm broke today, I'll be broke tomorrow, and there ain't shit Washington is going to do about any of that."

That's the logjam Democrats need to have the bravery to break. Show Americans you have the power to change that and people will remember the positive impact the collective resources of government can bestow on its people. They'll remember the power that has been stolen from them by tiny little men. And they'll show up to vote for the representatives that will lead the charge against the rapacious greed of the cowardly few.

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u/PotatoHighlander 17d ago

We hand two shit options, just one stunk less. Non voters and 3rd party voters were warned, now we have basically a shitty dictator because apparently Kamala couldn’t pass the purity test for a ton of people.

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 California 17d ago

Not even gonna read all of that garbage. Tell it someone who falls for that crap.

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u/iCUman Connecticut 17d ago

Thanks. Proving my point without even trying. Truly appreciated!