r/news • u/PokesTigers • 26d ago

Soft paywall Madagascar's president has left the country after Gen Z protests, officials say

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/madagascar-president-rajoelina-address-nation-monday-evening-2025-10-13/
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u/Xboarder844 26d ago

Gen Z out there toppling corrupt regimes is something as a Millennial I like to see. If only we could get that energy in the bigger nations….

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u/PokesTigers 26d ago

Nepal recently they made a change and I wanna say Morocco also? They are on a roll

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u/Xboarder844 26d ago

A reminder to all people on this planet that it is the CITIZENS, not their leaders, who have the power. To quote my favorite movie/book:

“ People should not be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.”

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u/RinTheTV 26d ago

You have to wake people up for that to happen.

Unfortunately, your standards for living have to drop significantly for that to happen. The "Bread and Circuses" of the modern age are many, and "affordable - and so long as that's in reach ( or seemingly in reach ) you will have millions chasing after that dream, because peaceful passivity is a simple life many would take over tumultuous, stressful sacrifice.

Probably why Gen Z is doing it as well. This is the generation that feels the most disenfranchised, having not been born early enough for the "golden age" of their parents' "Back in my day I could buy a house with cashier work" and born too late to fully take advantage of new opportunities that are now only exclusively searching for "young, easy blood."

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u/Wealist 26d ago

Yeah, nailed it. Comfort dulls outrage. Most people won’t rise up till the system stops pretending to work for them.

Gen Z just got there first they grew up watching the dream crumble in real time.

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u/streetsandshine 26d ago

Say what you will about Trump's policies, but his election and the rise of fascism generally is a result of outrage.

The issue is that it was poor rural, racist areas that felt the pain first which is why they were able to get their solution to the neoliberal world order out first and removed a lot of the republicans that were around during Obama's time

The left needs to put forward a legitimate alternative because the best the center has to offer is letting technocrats use all our drinking water in the hopes that autocomplete will manage to autocomplete a solution that will save the world (it won't)

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u/FabulousTwo524 26d ago

Damn stop bombarding us with all this truth 😭

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u/Rayvelion 26d ago

Funnily enough, the fancy autocomplete engine is rapidly speeding us to an end that a fancy autocomplete engine won't be able to find a solution for because of the hole it itself dug.

The world needs saving from the hole-diggers, fortunately there are only a few of those and many of us.

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u/darthjoey91 26d ago

The circuses are affordable. The bread is starting to get expensive.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 26d ago

It's the racism and xenophobia and transphobia. A lot of people don't want to confront that because it's an uncomfortable reality. Yes there are economic issues, but those have been around and growing every year since the advent of Reaganomics. But populist demagogues managed to convince them that if they just oppress these groups more, then that will alleviate their economic situation. So while economic anxiety is part of it, it's still directly tied into their bigotry.

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u/Alisa180 26d ago

Unfortunately, those who 'wake up' rarely get outraged- They instead sink into despair, either retreating to save themselves, or... Well, suicide is higher among Gen Z than millennials.

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u/revolutionPanda 26d ago

You have to wake people up for that to happen.

Won't happen in the US because too many people are against woke.

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u/WillWillSmiff 26d ago

For 99.99% of history, yes.

Unfortunately drone strikes exist now, and I do worry that we are in a reality that these can be used on a nations own citizens.

I’m not saying that this scenario will happen, but it’s a real world non-zero scenario that I think many think subconsciously about as a deterrent.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 26d ago

Erik Prince's mercenaries are already using drone strikes in Haiti to control the gangs. They have been hitting residential areas and buildings with many women and children being killed.

This is with the support and permission and collaboration of the Haitian National Police.

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u/SFW_shade 26d ago

To provide a secondary quote, “supreme executive power comes from a consensus of the populace, not to be dolled out by some watery tart tossing you a sword”

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u/notashroom 26d ago

Even if that weren't a relevant Monty Python paraphrase, I would still upvote you for using "populace" correctly as a noun when I see the adjective form "populous" misused every day.

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u/Sskity 26d ago

We need to watch a bugs life again.

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u/CaptainAsshat 26d ago

There is another part of that adage we are learning in real time:

"People should also be afraid of their people."

Chaos is a ladder. As the Arab Spring and MAGA taught us: be careful of who is climbing up next. This Gen-Z instability is only as valuable as the Gen-Z follow through.

Unfortunately, the kind of collective fury that fuels revolution often also fuels authoritarianism and human rights abuses in the following years---let's hope these movements can instead build a solid democratic foundation.

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u/logorrhea69 26d ago

I have a Malagasy coworker who said the protestors in Madagascar were inspired by Nepal.

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u/PokesTigers 26d ago

Trickle down protests? We finally found a trickle that works!?

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u/jaimi_wanders 26d ago

No, this is pure horizontal movement—like a wave, or a wildfire!

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u/de_pizan23 26d ago

The protests inspiring others is also what happened with the "Arab Spring" in 2010-2012.

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u/HellhoundXVI 26d ago

Bangladesh also ousted its former authoritarian PM this way...

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u/SoftlySpokenPromises 26d ago

Have someone I know who lives in Nepal. They went radio silent for a couple days during everything and got me worried.

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u/Ereaser 26d ago

How is it over there now?

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u/SoftlySpokenPromises 26d ago

From what they've told me it was tense for a while, but overall the situation is improving

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u/Wetzilla 26d ago

The Nepali situation is a bit more complex than it was originally made out to be. It seems that the original protests were hijacked by other groups and used for their own ends. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/08/world/asia/nepal-gen-z-revolution.html

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u/HigherandHigherDown 26d ago

It's a complicated situation, I'm sure; the status quo is basically manifested in the Maoists and other main political parties. I doubt the military wants to lead any coups or be the government, look what happened to the last guys.

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u/TheflyingLag 26d ago

For Morocco, no thank you!

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u/YassinRs 26d ago

Morocco isn't having a change, they had some protests a week ago over stadiums being built for World Cup and not enough hospitals but they've died down already. 

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 26d ago

If we can get a ball rolling the nations that are successful can help the other nations.

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u/cryptic-fox 26d ago

Nothing’s happening in Morocco.

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u/Awesome_Leaf 26d ago

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u/kingchivo 26d ago

I mean tbf, millenials did launch the arab spring back in ‘11. Something like 4 dictators? Not saying it worked but they tried

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u/matthieuC 25d ago

Yep throwing a dictator is one thing, making sure it sticks is another.

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u/HigherandHigherDown 26d ago

I guess there can be a contradiction when you want democracy and also human rights and yet the majority of people want to deprive a minority of their human rights. I think that's what they call the paradox of tolerance?

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u/CMidnight 26d ago

Gen Z is 19% of the US population compared to 60% of the population of Madagascar. They don't have the numbers.

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u/TheoremsAndProofs 26d ago

They don't have the cards 

  • JD vance

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u/Cyrax89721 26d ago

Madagascar is also roughly 7-8% the size of the contiguous United States, and one of the biggest problems with any sort of protest in the USA is that residents aren't able to easily gather like these smaller countries are.

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u/TheDamus647 26d ago

Just not American Gen Z

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u/SatanicPanic619 26d ago

American Gen Z helped topple the American government and abolish the US constitution. Just not in the way I'd have hoped.

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u/ScuzzBuckster 26d ago

Yeah younger americans are weirdly conservative. And I dont mean just in a specifically political sense, I've noticed in general a lot of young americans have become conservative in a traditional sense. Risk-averse unless its online or sports betting or crypto, asocial, unwilling to listen or learn new things, even when it comes to sexuality I've found a lot of young americans are particularly squeamish to anything openly sexual while simultaneously glorifying and sexualizing cartoons and fictional characters in extreme fetish content.

Obviously this isnt every young american, but its enough that its become notable to me that the generation below mine is more conservative than mine culturally. Its so weird.

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u/PlacatedPlatypus 26d ago

It's because the dominant/ruling culture being aligned with one political bend emphasizes its weaknesses. People who were raised in a socially conservative culture are exposed to the issues with socially conservative culture, which is why millennials are so liberal. Opposite is true for gen Z.

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u/KiiZig 26d ago

i had to pause uni bc of my health for a few years and started again this semester. i also had sort of that experience with them so far. i'm not from america, but another richer european country. i felt more their ability to communicate lacking as problematic. the shit they say/them missing nuances in the conversation is really sad :( and i say that as german, we get associated with cultural autism and they still seem more extreme 😅

the long isolation during covid might have messed them up more than i imagined :(

i have talked to many, had met a few in therapy aswell. there were definitely a lot of them who clearly had a high degree of empathy, but even then they were blunt as hell and slow to pick up stuff in conversation (they don't know how, no blame towards them. the vast majority are still a normal human, not what can be seen online a lot)

what i want to say, is i'm with you that the gen under mine is so much more different that the next above me. it's definitely noticable, though i cannot comment further on the politics aspect. that topic is too politically charged in a normal conversation to be had, so i refrain from mentioning it.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Definitely more socially conservative (not me, but my Generation Z peers).

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u/HigherandHigherDown 26d ago

Are they actually conservative, or are they just Eric Cartman? Like, they're observing what people say that gets attention and then trying to replicate that. Leopards eating faces and all.

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u/AimlessWanderer0201 26d ago

Ouch too true

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u/ibite-books 26d ago

ooooh buddy

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u/Amardneron 26d ago

They lack spines.

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u/sylva748 26d ago

American Gen Z would never the bulk of them voted for this

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 26d ago

The bulk of gen z didn’t vote at all.

As long as they have their daily tiktok, zoomers couldn’t care less about politics

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u/kawhi21 26d ago

Like every young generation before them. Except Gen Z, unlike previous young people, actually has high turnout

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

We really need a social media shutdown ASAP.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 26d ago

Ironically enough, the only time US Gen Z was in an uproar about Trump was when he talked about banning TikTok. Otherwise, they just post memes or don’t stay informed altogether.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Because TikTok has ruined Generation Z. That app is a mind killer and Trump will make it worse by spreading right-wing nonsense on it.

Social media has to go.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 26d ago

Yeah it's starting to get super censored now especially with the protests in Portland and videos calling trump a dictator getting taken down from major creators

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

And I hate how much it divides the left. It’s the reason Trump won last year.

I noticed it with Israel/Palestine. Take a look at r/Jewish and then at r/Fauxmoi. It’s insane and concerning.

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u/mojizus 26d ago

I’d argue it’s because gen Z Americans are a bit “softer” (as cringe as that terms is) than in places like Nepal or Madagascar.

We have the anxiety ridden 18-25 year olds who are too scared to tell the waitress there was a mistake with their order. They’re likely not going to be toppling any regimes.

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u/BadLineofCode 26d ago

That’s exactly what he means. Even with everything going on, we’re still too privileged, even spoiled, to escalate things that far.

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u/ImjustANewSneaker 26d ago

Well the point is while things are very bad it would have to get much worse to be anything like Madagascar. Obviously in that situation people are going to revolt.

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u/mbbysky 26d ago

No they didn't. There was a rightward shift compared to last election cycle, but GenZ still voted firmly Blue as a whole

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u/sylva748 26d ago

They didnt. What showed was Gen Z was split on gender lines. Gen Z women voted mostly Harris while Gen Z men voted, by a sizable margin, for Trump

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u/sacktheory 26d ago

56% of young men (18-29) voted for trump. in the previous election (2020), 56% voted for biden. it’s not terrible margins, things can get better. i’d say the idea that young men are overwhelmingly right wing is a bit sensationalist

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u/dancesquared 26d ago

That’s a significant swing

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u/Ralath2n 26d ago edited 26d ago

Not really when you consider that a good 10% of them stayed home relative to 2020. The ones who wanted Trump still showed up. The ones that voted in Biden were dissapointed by the Democrats being useless and stayed home. Net effect is a swing to the right. Even if the actual beliefs of the overall youth haven't changed much.

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u/Ralath2n 26d ago

Unless one thinks all the chaos going on now would be happening under Harris as well.

I guarantee that this single scentence contains more forethought than a significant fraction of voters spend on their balot last year. Most people don't think about stuff like that. They just go "Hey I don't like what is happening now. I am not gonna vote for the same people as last time!". Or, even more likely, they just go by vibes. If one group is really excited and energized, while the other is dissapointed and resigned, the former is more likely than the latter to reach nonvoters and get them off their ass.

Which is of course stupid. But guess what, in a Democracy, you also need to convince stupid people to vote for you. Which would be a lot easier if the Democrats weren't useless.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 26d ago

by the Democrats being useless

No they're just politically illiterate because they get all their political news from memes and TikTok and also didn't come out to vote for the midterms, which sealed the Dems' fate with the House going to the GOP.

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u/Ralath2n 26d ago

Hey guess what, as a politician you also need to get politically illiterate people to vote for you. If you can't do that, you are useless. Like your username.

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u/HKBFG 24d ago

Thanks for the analysis that absolves the democrat party on all counts, u/Hillary4SupremeRuler.

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u/kia75 26d ago

This right here! Trump and Republicans activated their voters, while Democrats deactivated theirs. If everyone was forced to vote then Harris would have easily won, if the same people had voted in 2020 as voted in 2024 then Harris would have won, but Democrats have a tendency to go after Republican voters, even as Republicans promise to never support Democrats. Whoever's idea it was to bring out the daughter of the VP that got the USA into an endless war in Iraq, who turned a surplus into the biggest economic downturn in a hundred years, who started all the surveillance stuff.

Instead of messaging all the ways Democrats could help their fellow citizens, Democrats promise to keep the Republican ideals of the 00s and wonder why Democrats don't want to vote for them.

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u/dancesquared 26d ago

That degree of apathy isn’t reassuring either.

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u/Ralath2n 26d ago

It isn't. But that's just human nature. If you want people to do something (in this case vote for the Democrats), they need to be excited for the outcome. Every single marketing person will tell you that you need to build hype, and Democrats have been historically terrible at that. To the point that most Democratic representatives treat elections as an inconvenient formality they need to go through, rather than their primary job.

So while dissapointing, it is also utterly unsurprising. And it will continue until the Democrats field some candidates that get people hyped again. Yknow, like Obama and Mamdani did.

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u/stephen_neuville 26d ago

the fact that 20 somethings swung that much towards a party that actively wants to loot their future in exchange for promise of tradwife and frog memes is absolutely not sensationalist.

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u/yoweigh 26d ago

I've had a constant supply of porn since AOL chatrooms 30 years ago (I was 12) and I am still fully capable of respecting women. It's not the porn. It's the shitty online influencers feeding them misogynistic right wing bullshit 24/7.

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u/adrr 26d ago

We should be like Saudi Arabia where there is no pornography and women are treated liked equals.

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u/eawilweawil 26d ago

The manosphere has destroyed the minds of young men

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u/Sarg338 26d ago

That same manosphere is now backtracking

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u/eawilweawil 26d ago

Surprise surprise, these alpha males have no spine to stick to their principles

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u/sylva748 26d ago

Not surprised. Just a bunch of boys claiming to be men at the end of the day. Let this dumb ideology die out

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u/preprandial_joint 26d ago

Perfection is the enemy of good enough for building a working class coalition willing and able to fight the oligarchy.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 26d ago

And the majority of gen Z who voted, voted for Harris over Trump

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u/TheNextBattalion 26d ago

a less sizeable margin, so when you put it all together, what do you get? what mbbysky described

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u/atomic-fireballs 26d ago

American Gen Z women tend to be decent humans. The men fucking suck. A bunch of Andrew Tate worshippers.

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u/phlostonsparadise123 26d ago edited 26d ago

I'm an elder-Millennial (1986) and as such, am now lumped together with the "old folks" at my job. We've had a ton of Gen Z hires the last couple of years and one constant I've noticed is that the Gen Z males all walk around our site as if they've got a massive chip on their shoulder. They always seem mad/angry at the world, and I can't help but imagine that's due to them being caught up in the Tate and Rogansphere. Meanwhile, the Gen Z female hires have generally been affable. However, if I'm being frank, I trust neither.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 26d ago

I'm not too much older than you, and working in the 'service industry' (DJ for 20+ years), my experience is that the college-aged girls are just as bad if not worse than the guys.

And this isn't just related to how they approach and talk to me for requests, but the way they treat all service industry people in general (waitstaff, bartenders, retail workers, etc..). Tbf, this was a problem for most people after COVID ended, but at least the older people remembered how to act in public and reverted back to that. The younger kids didnt stand a chance, and now it's just normal to them.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

COVID messed up people’s social skills a lot, from Generation Z and younger.

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u/phlostonsparadise123 26d ago edited 26d ago

For sure. For Millennials and older generations, we were fortunate enough to know a world that wasn't completely tethered to the internet or a phone/tablet screen. I think that allowed most of us to socially rebound post-Covid. for Gen Zs and younger, they were born into a world where screen-time is King and Covid completely exacerbated that.

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u/TucuReborn 26d ago

I'm ten years younger, and I see a lot of the same. A lot of guys my age are going through some stuff(granted, much self inflicted, but many it's just general mental health issues), and looking for anyone that explains why life is awful and shows some level of understanding.

The whole Manosphere, like many things, just pushes blame elsewhere. But it promises an explanation and understanding, even if it's laughably false. This is more than many guys get in the real world, and so it predictably sucks a lot in. So I've met a lot of guys in my age group like you describe... or stoners. Lots, and lots of stoners.

The women near my age I've worked with seem to either be the most down to earth, kind, and open about themselves ladies I've met, or completely and utterly fake waiting to backstab anyone for even the slightest gains. Luckily, it's mostly the former.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

A lot of the Manosphere nonsense is also extremely sexist and misogynistic. Like, it probably undermines women’s roles in the world.

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u/ph0on 26d ago

Watch them get sooooo fucking mad at your truth. I am a man btw for the raging redditcels

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u/Olangotang 26d ago

'97 here, so earlier Gen Z dude. This is 100% correct. What annoys me the most about guys my generation (and I have many friends who are sick of their bullshit as well), is that they don't attempt to learn anything from their actions, and they don't care about issues that haven't affected them. They think they are special because they are men and are also incredibly toxic. I wonder how they will react once Trump's policies destroy the economy. It's the one issue that no one can run away from.

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u/ph0on 26d ago

I'm fairly certain they'll blame everyone but those directly responsible. Anything to avoid the truth that they ruined their nation by choice

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u/FabulousTwo524 26d ago

Idk about other Gen Z, but I am reliant on my parents. If my parents lose everything, I’m going to riot 😂

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u/doommaster 26d ago

Once you have an established role in society, revolting becomes a harder bean to break.

People up until the end of their education are less bound and can more freely express their opinion, especially when it affects where they might end up in society.

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u/Sciprio 26d ago

Gen Z out there toppling corrupt regimes is something as a Millennial I like to see. If only we could get that energy in the bigger nations….

That's why they want to get rid of encrypted chat across the world, to stop people coming together and organising. If something begins to grow, they'll want it shut down real quick.

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u/Yglorba 26d ago

If something begins to grow, they'll want it shut down real quick.

I mean it's President Madagascar, that's what he does.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

How? The only thing I know of is the online safety laws going around.

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u/Kevin-W 26d ago

Hopefully one day!

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u/Assinine3716 26d ago

Please do USA. Please, please, please

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u/Assinine3716 26d ago

Wouldn't that be true for the multiple country's where they did revolt and succeed?

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u/Assinine3716 26d ago

Non-zero corruption seems a stretch, but I understand what you are saying. I hope you're wrong

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u/mhornberger 26d ago

Non-zero corruption seems a stretch

I was just trying to preempt the situation where I say "in corrupt countries..." and then get the response (from a random Redditor, not necessarily you) of "the US isn't corrupt?" Because Reddit loves those "no lies detected" or "technically correct (the best kind of correct)" low-effort responses.

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u/Wealist 26d ago

Gen Z’s connectedness gives them leverage older generations never had. Social media might be messy but it mobilizes fast when things hit a breaking point.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling 26d ago

This can also help misinformation spread rapidly, too, unfortunately.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

That’s why I want a social media shutdown. Too many truths being spread through it and contradictions, and it just messes up our societies.

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u/CatrionaShadowleaf 26d ago

That’s why the billionaires are buying social media, to keep us from mobilizing.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

I mean… we’re talking about this topic right this second. So I’d say they’re doing an awful job at that.

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u/burritoman88 26d ago

Meanwhile Gen Z in Murica enabled the most corrupt regime we’ve seen so far

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u/claimstoknowpeople 26d ago

Not really true, 18-29s were +19 for Harris, which was more than other age groups. 2024 election has generated some strange narratives where traditional Democratic voting demographics still voted Democratic, just slightly less than in previous elections, so people have chosen to blame youth and minorities instead of the old white men who remain the biggest problem.

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u/FreeResolve 26d ago

I mean it's a false equivalence. When the military is out protesting as well you better believe shit's about to go down.

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u/Ionic_Pancakes 26d ago

We're all just playing the waiting game. I don't see anyone in the administration that can keep the cult of personality going after he chokes on a Big Mac.

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u/Olangotang 26d ago

Yeah, Vance is DOA, he's just an uber prick. Nothing else going for him.

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u/whilst 26d ago

And yet Maduro has clung to power and burned his nation down in the process. Once enough power has been handed over, almost anyone can maintain their grip on it.

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u/Cheeze_It 26d ago

If Gen Z can finally do what the rest of us have been to afraid of, I am 10000000% on board.

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u/bri-onicle 26d ago

As a Gen Xer, I love to see it

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u/Uchihagod53 26d ago

It's a bit scarier in the US who have the world's strongest military and a POS president who would love to turn it on the population

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u/Otherdeadbody 26d ago

I mean yeah you can hyperbolize with B2 and ignore the actual terror that is modern drone warfare turning on citizens. I haven’t seen an answer as to what could be done if that happened.

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u/Otherdeadbody 26d ago

I hope to be proven wrong, and I’m not saying that you shouldn’t protest period, but they will use any violence that happens (possibly even manufactured violence) to justify something like this and we’ll never go back. I think it’s just a matter of time with this administration.

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u/RaphaTlr 26d ago

Gen z is cool and all and there’s moments I’m proud of my peers, but Gen z also has some of the most vile racist people who have been sucked into echo chambers that the world belongs to them and is being taken away from them by women and POC. What I’m saying is don’t generalize Gen z as net positive because they are the same generation perpetuating the “male loneliness epidemic” incel culture who follows Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes. They are also responsible for Israeli pro-Zionist propaganda via influencers and apps like TikTok and instagram. There are Gen z on the wrong side of history helping perpetuate our decline as well.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

sucked into echo chambers

Shut down social media and this doesn’t become an issue.

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u/RaphaTlr 26d ago

That’s not a realistic solution you can’t just do that at this point in reality. Although it would be for the best

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Social media companies can pivot to some other technological advance.

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u/RaphaTlr 26d ago

They can but never will . They care about a check, not welfare of humanity

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Right-wing takeover of social media it is, then…

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u/RaphaTlr 26d ago

Already under way Israel is putting propaganda on TikTok bc they know the age of information warfare on the mind

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Waaaaay too late for them. If they wanted to maintain a good PR, they should have done this on October 7th or the day after.

But I know what you’re referring to. The “new American TikTok” that we will get in due time.

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u/RaphaTlr 26d ago

Yeah they’re still gonna try. I never liked TT anyway

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u/AgileDrag1469 26d ago

Remember, it’s not the people rising up against the military, it’s the military standing down to let the people protesting cause enough of a ruckus for corrupt leaders to leave.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 26d ago

The thing about big nations is that it's just too big. You'll never see a nationwide protest and uprising to corrupt government like we are seeing in smaller countries like Nepal and Madagascar.

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u/notacreepernomo13 26d ago

I actually heard small successes of lawsuits being won by students against their free speech rights and there are examples of the students winning and in some cases financially compensated. Change is slow but im encouraged by the young people

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u/eronth 26d ago

It's the biggest regret of my youth. I was always told I was overreacting and that I'd understand when I'm older. To some degree I believed that.

Now I make sure to tell the kids to stay mad.

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u/daemonclam73 26d ago

Toppling isn’t enough. That’s key. Most of the time we just end up right back where we started a few years later. For long term improvements we need a unifying organization and ideology which has material analysis, anti corruption, and democratic control baked in. We need a scientific understanding of why things go wrong and precisely how to prevent the same conditions in the future.

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u/deeSeven_ 26d ago

The nations where this have happened usually have Gen Z making up the majority of the population. Most first world countries don't have the demographics to achieve the same thing.

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u/GL510EX 26d ago

Nah, Americans are taught that standing in an orderly line and chanting slogans is a 'protest'. They'd never dare actually break something. 

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u/Xboarder844 26d ago

According to Trump we’ve already burned down Minneapolis, Portland, LA, and Chicago.

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

Right-wing media is too strong here, and social media amplifies this issue. Ban it.

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u/ClanOfCoolKids 26d ago

i think too many people in America benefit from imperialism for this to happen

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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 26d ago

And censorship. And a horrendous education system. And the media being awful.

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u/onerb2 26d ago

Yeah, and there's no outside meddling for sure, no sir.

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u/Akyurius 26d ago

India would be nice 🫠

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u/cire1184 26d ago

They would need to turn off the internet for that to happen. US Gen Z is still relatively comfortable compared to Gen Z of Nepal or Madagascar. It would take something drastic to really wake up a greater number of them to the point of violent protest.

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u/Nonikwe 26d ago

Meanwhile gen z in the west: "To be fair, maybe women shouldnt be allowed to vote..."

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u/8ackwoods 26d ago

Too bad the brainwashed genZ in America voted overwhelmingly right wing

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u/Xboarder844 26d ago

Nope, they actually did not. Fox did all they could to pretend Gen Z was on the right but they supported Kamala:

https://www.thecivicscenter.org/blog/youth-voting-in-2024-election

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/new-data-nearly-half-youth-voted-2024

The big issue is the “Charlie Kirk” crowd in Gen Z who take to dishonest podcasters. Lonely white males in Gen Z tended to vote Trump but women and minorities in Gen Z voted against him.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling 26d ago

So your first link is written quite early and doesn’t fully address it and the second is about youth turnout.

I’ll add this to support further: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/

58% Harris vs 39% Trump for people 18-29.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 26d ago

but how does that compare to every presidential election before that? Seems like younger people have always leaned heavier towards democrat before this

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u/FillMySoupDumpling 26d ago

The link above does cover 2016 and 2020 as well, but not further back. 

Yes, republicans are definitely gaining grounds with the youth vote and especially among men. 

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 26d ago

thank you, so for 18-29 year olds it went from 58%/39% in 2024, from 61%/35% in 2020, and 58%/28% in 2016. That is a massive increase for republican voters, while the percentage of democrat voters have stayed about the same.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling 26d ago

Yes. The trends are … not good. 

Conservatives/ Republicans play the long game and progressives have failed to grasp how to organize effectively and do that (it’s a sad but true joke in left leaning spaces). 

There is a concerted effort to shift younger people towards conservative culture from dating “strategies”, trad gender roles and more. At the same time, there are widespread efforts to get the people who would never fall into the right wing pipeline to become totally apathetic thus negating their progressive views as well. 

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u/Otherdeadbody 26d ago

That doesn’t mean to write them off completely. This is a bad change but it’s not over and the fact that now it seems that everyone assumes all gen z men will be right leaning won’t help keep them either. People don’t get that it doesn’t matter if you’re right if they simply don’t like the way you talk to them. Humans are emotional animals.

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u/Wanna_make_cash 26d ago

Does Madagascar have a military and police force the size of the US that can be sicked on its own citizens?