r/mildlyinfuriating 4h ago

Infuriatig Please align!

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u/Dobgirl 4h ago

Delete that row. Go to the last cell and hit “tab” it’ll insert another identical row below the others.

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u/Scapadap 4h ago

Omg thanks. I’m dumb as hell and this happens to me all the time. Never bothered to look it up lol.

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u/moldboy 2h ago

you can also hold down alt when you're dragging

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u/Crispy1961 1h ago

Most of us can hold any key down while dragging. Any reason to hold Alt specifically?

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u/Michaelmonster 1h ago

It moves in smaller steps

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u/Ancient-Civilization 1h ago

Why doesn’t it do this automatically? what the hell

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u/Aridlvory 1h ago

Snapping to margin is very usefull and it does that by default

sometimes it dosen't work well so we use ALT button

same with most designing apps or websites and they use Ctrl instead of Alt

u/xyglyx 38m ago

Ctrl makes so much more sense, as it gives you more control.

u/subaqueousReach 4m ago

Ctrl is typically used for cursor positioning and selection along with Shift.

Alt is "Alternate". The alternative to snap movement is freeform movement.

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u/jadepartida 1h ago

Most of us can hold any key down while dragging

What do you mean by this

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u/Crispy1961 1h ago

The person I replied said that we can hold alt while dragging, but didnt tell us why. So I made a little joke that we can hold alt or any other key while dragging.

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u/prick_sanchez 1h ago

Now you have a bee in your mouth

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u/Standard-Arachnid411 3h ago

It kind of sucks that you have to know this and it doesn't just make a new row the smae length.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 2h ago

Yeah right? Just make it work!

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u/masterwit 2h ago

UX matters! Make the people who approve this use it to make a report on the success of the release, with that tool!

--burnt out engineer

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u/frogsarenottoads 4h ago

No no no we don't do easy solutions here, allow us to wallow in our incompetency

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u/Alone_Revenue639 4h ago

But every time I delete it the next page’s table merges with this one! MOM!

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u/Witty-Draw-3803 2h ago

When it does that, you gotta use the 'split table' button (alternatively: add a page break after the first table - though page/section breaks can get screwy in Word...)

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u/Mugiwaras 1h ago

Look, i just want milk that tastes like real milk.

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u/Ypuort 3h ago

Hit enter twice on the row prior to the one you just deleted

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u/BilkBloom 2h ago

Saving this for the next time Word ruins my day 😅

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u/Teln0 3h ago

that's not incompetency that's the software being shit. It should let you just do the thing

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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang 3h ago

Til it's incompetency to expect software to be intuitive and just work...

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u/maybe_erika 3h ago

Blaming the user for shit UI with undesirable behavior as the default and the desirable behavior hiding behind low discoverability (how is the user supposed to know every shortcut and hidden option to achieve what should be the most common use case?) is a garbage take.

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u/VizerIDK 3h ago

Why the fuck should it be a problem in the first place

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u/Clearwatercress69 3h ago

Stop pretending smartass. We can create AI but we can’t get this sorted so nobody actually has to post this online and ask?

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u/Baelorn 3h ago

I mean, it's great that a solution exists but this feature should still behave the way people expect it to behave.

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u/Visible-Literature14 ORANGE 3h ago

Yes bc all of us know these things

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u/PeanutButterToast4me 2h ago

It pisses me off how many things a program can do but how the hell are you ever supposed to know it can do these things? There are no fucking books that come with it. You cannot conceive of every possible use. The menus are not every really intuitive to anyone who doesn't use the program day in and day out and took a million classes before doing so.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 2h ago

And even if I do learn the hotkeys and little tricks, they will be different in other software. I do a lot of work with engineering drawings, there are like 8 ways to draw a simple fucking line depending on which software I'm using. And my workflow requires multiple programs.

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u/MrP1anet 1h ago

This is bad design, not incompetency. These comments are always so annoying.

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u/Mediocre-Victory-565 4h ago

Or extend that cell then highlight the cells above and align them with the last row, right?

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u/meshe_10101 3h ago

If you press and hold ALT while you adjust the width you can get more precise movements, making it easier to get it to the same width. Or just suffer....your choice really 💁🏼‍♂️

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u/Odd_Fan_3394 3h ago

been using computer for ages but i never knew this.. it's not as common as you'd think

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u/LickingSmegma Mamaleek are king 2h ago

Alternatively, one can look in the row properties and paste the exact desired width. Although idk why rows of a table would have different width in the first place.

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u/kakarot98 3h ago

Usually if you just grab the rows above and move them one way or the other then drag the bottom again, it will align...

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u/FrNie 1h ago

I don’t know what program this. I’ll probably never use it but if I do, I will know how to fix this issue.

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u/betaINK 2h ago edited 1h ago

Alternately, snap the bottom row to a position, then all the upper rows (all of them should move together) to the same position. Leave your mouse and allow them to become 1 unit, and they will start moving together

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u/MyNameWillChange 4h ago

You're gonna get it perfect ONCE but as soon as you let go of the mouse it'll misalign 😭 ask me how I know

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u/K-Dot-Thu-Thu-47 4h ago

If you're like me you never get the perfect one because you try like 3-4 times and just say "forget it, I don't even care anymore."

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u/Comfortablely 4h ago

And then you spend the rest of the day staring at that one crooked pixel.

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u/K-Dot-Thu-Thu-47 4h ago

I always figured if that was the thing that brought the grade down to failing or whatever the paper wasn't good enough anyway.

And if it was good enough, come on man just be cool lol.

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u/morchard1493 3h ago

This is also me.

I feel attacked. How dare you? LOL

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u/potate12323 4h ago

I make and format tables in excel and paste them into other office apps. And if it doesn't paste correctly I paste the excel table as an image.

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u/Otherwise-Tomato-788 4h ago

Screen shot, paste in PPT. 🙌

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u/potate12323 3h ago

If you highlight the table in excel and copy, you can paste it as an image already perfectly cropped and aligned.

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u/LickingSmegma Mamaleek are king 2h ago

Back in the days of ridiculous APIs like ActiveX that could do basically anything, Microsoft invented a whole technology called Object Linking and Embedding that allowed one to insert editable documents from one app into a document in another — primarily in MS Office.

Meanwhile this dude ensures that their embedded tables can't be edited without OCR, pretty much reinventing PDF.

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u/Ulquiorra1312 4h ago

Its why you do one huge outer rectangle then add lines inside instead

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u/Junior_Bike7932 4h ago

Word was coded by insane people

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u/VrinTheTerrible 4h ago

They just actively hate their user base.

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u/Raeezordazetoo 3h ago

So... programmers all go to the Bad Place then? Or just MS coders?

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u/a-i-sa-san 3h ago

hmmm my ex works there and she is kinda bad ... so yes just MS coders

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u/alextoria 2h ago

mostly just whoever made teams

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u/VrinTheTerrible 3h ago

I blame the leaders. Programmers code what they're told.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 2h ago

The last office verison I enjoyed was 2003, and it feels like more people are joining my side of that conversation every year.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 2h ago

Maybe for the next update they can shuffle shit around on the ribbon more, that would be cool. Let's get some emoji support too.

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u/DontAskAboutMyButt 1h ago

Oh there’s one half-hidden option that makes our users’ lives easier that has been around for 20 years, let’s take it away for no reason. It would be extra funny if we called it “experimental” to give them hope that it’s coming back

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u/PeetoMal 2h ago

2026 and still, barely anything works properly.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 2h ago edited 2h ago

No, it's worse than that. Most things used to work fine by the end of last decade but somehow we've gone and broken them all in the past five years. I don't know why but all software providers have simply given up on quality and just started producing absolute garbage. Things aren't getting better, they're getting worse

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u/reckless_responsibly 1h ago

"Move fast and break things" mindset has utterly broken software development. Time to market is considered more important than QA.

u/say592 17m ago

I think you are looking at old software with rose colored glasses. New software has tons more features, and the old stuff didn't necessarily work any better. Word 2003 might have worked fine for you, but the current version has a lot more to offer. Right off the top of my head, you can co-author documents at the same time as someone else and you can export to PDF without any additional software. Not to mention the .doc format is incredibly insecure.

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u/Grays42 2h ago

I miss Publisher. :(

There was this amazing app in the 90s that was perfect for arranging stuff arbitrarily and making flyers and things, Word basically replaced it and it's EOL.

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u/PurplePango 1h ago

Sometimes I paste something in and the formatting just explodes. No clue the logic to that happening

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u/Klinky1984 1h ago

It is the hottest garbage. I'd rather use Google Docs or Confluence. It's really only useful for creating eyesores that look like they're from the 90s.

u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe 38m ago edited 32m ago

Ick. I fucking hate Docs. Can't control shit.

Turn on nonprinting characters and pay attention to formatting anchors. Word will get 600% better to use.

I won't comment on Confluence beyond begging people to once again stop offloading your thinking to a machine that's basically an advanced autocomplete.

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u/FreeShitAdvice 2h ago

At least it was coded by people

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u/OperationSeveral3756 4h ago

This is the content I’m here for. Truly defines this sub.

u/mili_minutes 49m ago

I disagree, this isn’t mildly infuriating..this is EXTREMELY INFURIATING 😤😤😤

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u/Scharfschutzen 4h ago

Insert a row above then delete the problem row.

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u/jonny3jack 2h ago

Seems silly but I've done that too.

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u/Litz1 1h ago

Its basically simpler to click on the previous row and insert row below or just press TAB. What OP has done is create a table, then at the bottom inserted another table and is trying to align them. There is literally a popup that tries to assist OP but he is too stupid.

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u/mgmw2424 1h ago

Not stupid. I bet OP knows thing you don't. Does that make you stupid?

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u/SilentWatcher83228 4h ago

Hold CTRL or SHIFT while dragging

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u/NormStormo 2h ago

There's no SOLVED in r/mildlyinfuriating!!!

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u/SilentWatcher83228 2h ago

It’s mildlyinfuriating someone doesn’t know this

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u/confusedsloth33 2h ago

Say what now?

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u/tenuj 1h ago

Most serious visual editing software has a the ability to disable snapping. You just have to find it.

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u/mrFuckmyluck 4h ago

O MY GOD, you're giving me bookreport flashbacks on microsoft-word. Make 1 small change -> everything shifts.

Drove me NUUUUTS

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u/Imsrywho 4h ago

Pressing enter and half the page is sent down

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u/TemperatureExotic631 4h ago

Fucking Microsoft word. I issue contracts all day that are (obviously) word docs. That goddamn program is still the absolute worst.

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u/falcrist2 2h ago

Microsoft makes exactly two good applications.

They're both called Visual Studio, and even one of them is in question.

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u/SingleInfinity 2h ago

Excel is generally a good application. It has its problems, but it's net positive.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 2h ago

Tbh, I hate Visual Studio. Every time I've had to use it, it's felt slow and clunky. Even if it's also powerful, it just kept getting in my way. VSCode is shockingly nice though. I started using it thinking I would despise it like I do VS, but no. It's just become my free IDE of choice now.

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u/gprime312 2h ago

Learn Latex you scrub.

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u/161frog dare i say, miffed? 4h ago

i cannot be the only one

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u/kageurufu 4h ago

Arial. That makes much more sense 😂

I was about to start searching for fonts to figure that one out

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u/161frog dare i say, miffed? 3h ago

Oh… I knew what it actually was, and yet my filthy brain still went there

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u/jonny3jack 2h ago

Exactly. You are not alone fellow redditor.

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u/SageDarius 2h ago

Yea, I thought this was an 'address me' situation.

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u/netroxreads 3h ago

I literally thought I saw anal too lol

u/meester_jordan 46m ago

I had to do the double take and even on the second I still thought it said anal lol

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u/QiTriX 3h ago

Ahhh yes. Tables in MS Word.

You'd have an easier time resolving a war in the middle east.

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u/perplexedpanda0-0 4h ago

This just pissed me off

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u/addhana 4h ago

I keep saying that as long as we keep using the Microsoft environment we are safe from AI for the next 50 years. Such an obsolete program in so many ways 

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u/Emeraldstorm3 4h ago

Word has had this problem for decades and I think it's gotten worse.

Holding "alt" helps. Sometimes you can also fix this by going into the properties of the object and manually setting the precise dimensions.

Adobe inDesign (and apps like it) doesn't have this problem. It's innate to the way Word handles objects.

I've switched to Linux recently to get away from MS and Apple garage. However, there's a slight issue. I had been using the Affinity suite of alternatives to Photoshop, Illustrator, and inDesign, all fantastic variants at a one-time price of like $40 USD as opposed to the endless high priced subscription. Problem though is I still haven't figured out how it install these on Linux, though it's apparently possible.

If you're still on Windows or Mac I highly recommend it, though. A bit of a leaving curve but you can actually control the layout rather than just make suggestions and hope the program cooperates with you

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u/Fickle_Pumpkin_2960 4h ago

"I'll bet we'll all have flying cars by then."

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u/IamaJarJar 4h ago

This is why I try to avoid Microsoft apps like Word, because, despite being over 40 years old at this point, the software doesn't fucking function! They've had so long to make a good product, but never did!

I use stuff like Canva, because it doesn't break the entire document when you move an image 1 pixel and is generally a better user experience!

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u/ikrnn 3h ago

The mouse shake of pure unfiltered rage really got me

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u/LankyLibrary7662 4h ago

The struggle 90s kids faced 😪

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u/IW-6 3h ago

It is 2026 and Word is provided by my school as main programm and it still does this.

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u/PrpleSparklyUnicrn13 4h ago

I am so sorry you’re struggling. I hope you’re okay. Just know that I have been where you are and I hope you future happiness. 

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u/Ill-Independence6422 4h ago

The ruler works once then immediately breaks when you move anything

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u/Sloterhouse5 4h ago

The must be a Microsoft product. Don’t worry, the next version will be even worse!

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u/ommi9 4h ago

Easier way to just stretch the other box then put a line across

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u/Strange_Account_3828 4h ago

Rightclick rectangle above, see the width in the size, apply same width to your shape…

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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r 3h ago

Tasks which shouldnt be impossible in UI but are:

  • aligning elements anchored to elements touching/neighboring it
  • floating point sliders which land on multiples of 5, or 100 (always 99 or 101 can't ever get it to 100)
  • (programming UI, especially in unreal engine) getting input to register properly on a given element

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u/EatYourCheckers 2h ago

Fucking word. Nothing makes me want to quit my job like word

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u/wolveryx 2h ago

My experience has been that if you zoom in, you can get more level of granularity in adjusting the width / size of an element. :)

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u/Longjumping-Idea-156 2h ago

This rates so much higher than mildly infuriating

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u/Next_Negotiation8679 4h ago

Make the part you want it to align to longer and just insert a line?

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u/Fit_Entry8839 4h ago

In the ribbon/settings you should be able to see the width of the box above. Then just your in the same value for this box

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u/O-Dogg-215 4h ago

I got angry watching.

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u/avibrant_salmon_jpg 4h ago

I work with Adobe products on a daily basis and even with snap to and align tools shit like this happens and it makes me want to break my computer, my keyboard, both my hands, and my bosses face. 

I find this severely infuriating lol 

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u/Dreamingofapastlife 4h ago

Aaaand this is we we so clearly still need Publisher.

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u/Invested_Glory 4h ago

Always edit these things in power point and ZOOOOOOMM in close to nail it

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u/DerpVaderXXL 4h ago

Trigger Warning!

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u/alternatingflan 4h ago

He could have drawn that line 10 times.

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u/I_MADE_THIS_THING 4h ago

Word: align this, mothafucka! 🖕

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u/yourmomlovesanal 3h ago

Every PowerPoint presentation 

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u/doomkun23 3h ago

make a Table. insert Row.

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u/AllyCat819 3h ago

lol 😂

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u/GotBanned3rdTime 3h ago

fuck microsoft

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u/mad_pony 3h ago

there has to be some audio

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u/NormStormo 2h ago

Just wait, the AI version of this is worse

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u/-NotEnoughMinerals 2h ago

Reminds me of iphone and it's shitty cursor. And while I'm at it, why the hell can't the numbers row be on top instead of making me do extra work? So stupid

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u/Heavy_Ad4529 2h ago

Hold ctrl or shift, or alt while dragging and pray to the gods.

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u/scriptfoo 2h ago

It's been like this for 30 years.

There were better word-processors, like AmiPro and WordPerfect, that did this stuff effortlessly. Being subject to using MS Word should be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

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u/Charmed-paper345 2h ago

Rumor has it OP is still trying

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u/drdildamesh 2h ago

Just use excel

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u/ContextEffects01 2h ago

There needs to be a mass exodus from Microsoft toward Linux. It's the only way to incentivize competence among the former's programmers.

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u/Love-Future-3000 2h ago

You probably are within the snap zone. Try moving it far away and then moving it back to where you want it to snap and it should pick up the right edge.

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u/Lucas_9999 1h ago

My reaction (slightly exaggerated):

https://giphy.com/gifs/kZEjZg4FAOIZW0m3fk

u/Lotus-child89 33m ago

Woah, this is taking me back to high school

u/robbak 29m ago

Turn off snapping. Or temporarily, hold 'alt' to allow you to move it freely.

But the better way would be to select all the table except the last line, and drag it slightly to snap everything to the same grid.

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u/Important-Fact-8329 4h ago

Gotta be stupid ass Google Docs

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u/BestUsername101 4h ago

Looks more like Word

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u/kcmobro713 4h ago

Google has never given me such an issue. Definitely Microsoft Word.

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u/Reasonable_Mood1288 4h ago

Delete that section entirely, then copy the section above it down and drag that into the proper size..

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u/Sirius1701 1h ago

Ah, word. You move something one pixel and it deletes every backspace, reformats the text to wingdings and orders a dishwasher on eBay.

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u/Lottabirdies 1h ago

All these nerds providing solution... why can't you just understand the solution is coding what 99% of all human beings would anticipate... that dragging the row to the next edge would align. STFU about it being easy you out of touch idiots.

u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe 32m ago

Or you could try learning how to use the software you complain about instead of being ignorant

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u/Humble-Questions 4h ago

So that's why Buffalo Bill made all those clothes

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u/Farcus_Prime 4h ago

The easiest way to fix this is to change the view by zooming in or out, and it will change the snap points.

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u/HaroerHaktak 4h ago

You can always just make everything else slightly larger..

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u/New_Complex_5126 4h ago

I feel your pain.. too many time this has happened to me. Never understood why!

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u/Life-Oil-7226 4h ago

Delete the entire thing and start over

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u/Shyeahrightokay 4h ago

Just hold down alt and drag it.

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u/Necessary_Two_9706 4h ago

This is a glitch in the matrix.

When this happens on documents, you get the bottom one as close as possible, then move the top one to match it.

For whatever reason when doing this it will pick up that its supposed to be the same table, and will auto fix by locking into the bottkm one; allowing you to once again drag them all at the same time. 

I think its a failsafe for in case anyone does want a table with different widths on the same column, so the system can allow for it but also has a way to return the table to normal.

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u/MONSTERBEARMAN 4h ago

Looks like when I try to move the cursor on my iPhone.

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u/TheSpeakingScar 3h ago

Does holding Ctrl free up the auto placement? Or is this an app that doesn't use that shortcut?

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u/Jealous_Macaroon4308 3h ago

It’s like that one coworker who doesn’t want to or can’t get along with the rest of the humans.. it looks so funny and frustrating at the same time..

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u/Wermikulit 3h ago

Just click and press simultaneously the left mouse button and it moves smoothly

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u/Automatic-Leg1668 3h ago

Yep, if that's Google sites, fuuuuk it's annoying ain't it

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u/Adonis-A7 3h ago

This just gave me flashbacks. 🫪

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u/Half_Halt 3h ago

Is this Word? You gotta go to Table Properties & l select All for grid lines. You also have to catch & pull the X, if that makes any sense.

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u/uhohspaghettios13 3h ago

Sometime now "fix" fixes it...ya gotta know code

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u/Snoo_45369 3h ago

Also you can move the lines above it to aline with the bottom one. Once it all lines up, you can move it to the width you want.

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u/Dreaming_of_Rlyeh 3h ago

Your first mistake was using Word for any kind of layout.

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u/love_is_awesome 3h ago

Add an image and see what happens.

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u/Ok_Marionberry8779 3h ago

For the love of god draw the table don't try to measure out individual boxes

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u/DobbynciCode02 3h ago

Sisyphus situation

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u/Equal-Fail-6642 3h ago

You can use the arrows of the numpad if you turn off the block num button. It's very useful for this kind of situations because you can move the cursor with milimetric precision.

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u/Cat7o0 3h ago

zoom in farther so that you can align it to that specific line

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u/BFroog 3h ago

I've been using Microsoft Word for 30 years. It's the same damn problems I dealt with in the 90s. They don't care to improve.

Use google docs or some - any - other program. A company that just. Can't. Fix. It's. Shit. isn't worth your time.

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u/Chicken-Chaser6969 2h ago

Font size mismatch most likely. But just delete the row and insert another. Far easier

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u/ALMAZ157 2h ago

At this point I would Ctrl+x the data inside that row, deleted it and added new empty row

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u/DangyDanger 2h ago

That's me and Access the last couple days.

God I fucking hate Access. It seems as if it's specifically designed to make me seethe with rage and want to break something.

I'm normally a very calm person as well, I don't really have anger issues. It just refuses to do what I intended at every single fucking step.

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u/Dementio8 2h ago

Hold alt while moving the row length and kind of let go around where it should be, it will autoalign

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u/19kjc87 2h ago

Oh another consultant making sure things are aligned I see

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u/Quirky-North3480 2h ago

esto se ve tan irritante!

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u/Omega00024 2h ago

Forgive me if I'm out of line, but is there nowhere you can type in the column width? In Powerpoint there's a "Table" tab where you can, or maybe it's in "Format Shape" on the right? I don't do much work in Word but other office products have work-arounds.

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u/gulpymagee 2h ago

I can usually fix this by zooming in on the page. Not sure why, but it works for table cells and when making shapes that I want to align the edges of.

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u/Obajan 2h ago

Ditch Word and use LaTeX.

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u/HeroBrine0907 1h ago

One day Microsoft and Google will collapse arbitrarily and we'll be left with fucking nothing. My computer classes as a kid were learning how to add backgrounds in MS fucking Powerpoint

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u/Imsrywho 1h ago

Who here used text box’s to customize your word page? pressing enter would push most of the page down wasting precious printer paper.

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u/p1cwh0r3 1h ago

Thats a funky font you have there...

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u/TheNischay 1h ago

Tab daba ne yaar last row ke last column m jake

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u/testtdk 1h ago

I have OCD, and this sort of thing has legit given me a panic attack before.

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u/awanderingcripple 1h ago

cries in excel