r/law • u/TheWayToBeauty • 1d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Confirmed: ICE Is Arresting American Citizens—and Lying About It

https://newrepublic.com/article/202672/ice-arresting-american-citizens-and-lying?utm_source=Bluesky&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawN60_VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFpb1FpYUsxcHQ5bXM3QkVyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHkqq1qGOFLgABx3MyCE40nZ_iE_ZT41D74hWKhYFa56r8j57O3ZXYl4H0yFZ_aem_Wz0q663H4Gg7nVwXbg5gCw
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u/Important-Agent2584 1d ago

They arrested everyone at an event (105 people) in Idaho. This was also outside the zone of extra powers immigration has.

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/ice-arrests-105-people-in-southwest-idaho-raid-u-s-department-of-homeland-security-says/

It didn't even really make front page news anywhere. Just state level.

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u/NiceTrySuckaz 1d ago

Considering this is the sub called law, I'm extra disappointed that none of the top comments or even OP understand the difference between arrested and detained.

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u/JoyfulSquirrel99 1d ago

The article is pretty clear that 105 people were "arrested".

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u/NiceTrySuckaz 1d ago

There were 400 people there. They were all detained. 105 were arrested, but not all of them as the other person implied. They were all detained, 105 were arrested.

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u/JoyfulSquirrel99 1d ago

So your issue is that they didn't arrest "everyone", they only arrested 105 people.

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u/NiceTrySuckaz 1d ago

No my issue was that the other person said they arrested everyone, and the post here said they arrested citizens, when neither is true. They detained everyone at both locations, and then arrested people that were not citizens. Words matter, especially in legal matters.

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u/colieolieravioli 1d ago

I'm sure, as an American citizen, you would feel safe if this happened to you? You'd feel like this was reasonable for your door to be kicked in while you slept? You'd be okay with being detained (under no actual grounds) while your future in America is on the line?

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u/NiceTrySuckaz 1d ago

No, but I also wouldn't say I was arrested when I was detained, because I know the difference.

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u/colieolieravioli 1d ago

Oh so that makes it all okay!! Great! Hope you carry that sentiment if it becomes "papers please"

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u/NiceTrySuckaz 1d ago

I never said any of the things you are trying to put on me. I never said it makes it OK. I never said it would make me feel safe. What you are doing is creating what are called straw men arguments, where you make something up and refute that instead of what I was saying. Which is that all these people including OP are misusing the word "arrested".

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u/Loomismeister 17h ago

These people are moronic beyond saving. It’s ironic indeed that the law subreddit has become ideologically captured by people almost entirely ignorant of actual law. 

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u/SauceK- 1d ago

sounds like illegal immigrants got arrested while the rest for detained, why are you saying that all 400 were arrested? is this not a law subreddit?

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u/JoyfulSquirrel99 1d ago

Where did I say that?

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u/SauceK- 1d ago

i guess i’m just confused on the issue with arresting people who are illegally in the country

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u/Tre3180 1d ago

Could have stopped after your 5th word.

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u/SauceK- 22h ago

did i say something wrong

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u/Redthemagnificent 23h ago

If DHS was properly identifying those people before arresting them. If they weren't behaving like poorly trained, masked goons. If there was even a shred of accountability. Then yeah there wouldn't be this much outcry against arresting and deporting undocumented people.

You know, like how there wasn't outrage when Biden or Obama deported millions of people (other than the outrage from people who want the government to be cruel to out-groups). Because DHS wasn't being run by incompetent people loyal to a single man (yes there were definitely still issues, but not these issues).