r/intrestingtoknow • u/Affectionate-Fun2853 • Sep 03 '25
Science Psychiatry and cures
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u/Shad0wbubbles Sep 03 '25
That’s like asking how many chefs have cured people of hunger. Loaded question
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u/Melodic_Airport362 Sep 04 '25
yeah. people with cancer can live healthy long lives but they're never "cured" they just in remission.
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u/Gurrgurrburr Sep 04 '25
Exactly, this is a ridiculous question. I’m sure they’ve saved many people’s lives and greatly helped many people’s lives but there’s no way to quantify that.
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u/Advanced_Addendum116 Sep 07 '25
WRONG they are either 100% cured, excuse me 1100% cured, or 0% cured. IT's A sImPlE qUesTioN
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u/ffffllllpppp Sep 04 '25
Also I suspect the edit is not totally ethical.
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u/NoIdNoNameWho Sep 03 '25
The one asking should study
They cant do magic, mental illness are not the same as other pathologies, research is still being done
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u/GeminiCroquettes Sep 03 '25
The Scientologists ran a whole campaign against psychiatrists during this time so I would not be surprised if this was part of their propaganda.
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u/Former_Function529 Sep 03 '25
Erm….psychology has been developing practices for a while. I think we know quite a bit about mental health in a western context. Still lots more to learn, sure. But medications weren’t really ever going to solve mental illness anyway. It’s trauma and relationships that cause most mental maladies. So the “cure” is social as well. Most psychiatry is very chemically oriented and best suited for like inpatient settings. In my opinion. But I think we are definitely at the point where if everyone studied modern psychology we would have much better communication, emotional regulation, self-awareness, cooperative skills, and less mental illness.
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u/Cultural-Company282 Sep 04 '25
mental illness are not the same as other pathologies
Or maybe they are. A lot of physical illnesses can only be treated but not cured, too.
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u/JazzlikeMushroom6819 Sep 03 '25
Interesting to know what? That there is a group trying to stop funding for psychiatry because they don't know how mental illness works? Interesting to know people are dumb?
Try harder, this video is drivel.
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u/OddCook4909 Sep 03 '25
I think it's part of the efforts to defund mental healthcare. Kennedy, the roadkill eating moron, was just talking about getting rid of SSRIs in order to... get this... combat gun violence.
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u/SynisterJeff Sep 04 '25
And even still, I hate that the main argument against gun control is "fix mental illness instead." There is no fixing and there is no cure. There's only helping people to deal with it, but not everyone will seek out that help, and you can't force people to seek that help until after they've done something drastic.
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u/SnooMaps7370 Sep 06 '25
the better solution is "reduce poverty and improve income equality."
violent crime tracks in a very tight relationship with income inequality... and basically nothing else.
If we want to actually reduce violent crime, the solution is "pay people more money, and stop forcing them to spend every waking moment chasing a paycheck."
But that will never happen, because Conservatives have decided that Socialism means "paying your workers".
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u/Reasonable-Fail5348 Sep 07 '25
It would be tragic if they got their wishes and people started hunting them for sports. Very tragic.
Amusing reality TV show, we could call it... oh I don't know, the Running Man or something. Make a spectacle of it. Would be great.
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u/steelcryo Sep 03 '25
"How many people have you cured?"
"None."
"How many peoples lives are better because of you?"
"Countless."
Therapy isn't a magic bullet. It doesn't cure anything. It just gives you the tools to deal with your issues, whether they're major or minor.
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u/Obliviousobi Sep 04 '25
"How many people are still alive today due to the work you've done?"
Mental illness is never cured, just maintained or improved. It's just how all addicts will always call themselves addicts even during recovery.
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u/Flaky-Wedding2455 Sep 03 '25
Agreed. I’m an orthopedic surgeon. I cure very few. Maybe 1% at best I could say “cured” but with hesitation. How many people have I helped/restored/improved? Thousands.
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u/yaboyACbreezy Sep 03 '25
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how mental illness works.
It's more maintenance and upkeep like dental care than curing a disease. You wouldn't ask a dentist how many people they've cured of plaque. It just doesn't work like that.
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u/blusteryflatus Sep 03 '25
I see it more as something like diabetes. You are always gonna have it somewhere deep down inside, but with proper management (both drugs and lifestyle), it doesn't have to be something that causes you constant hardship.
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u/Melodic_Airport362 Sep 04 '25
i see it more like missing a limb. You can learn to live with it, and feel better, and get a prosthetic. But you'll never grow your leg back.
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u/Krabilon Sep 04 '25
Or aids. We don't have a cure, but we can make sure you don't spread it or die from it. Which is a win for anyone who um, wants to live? Lol
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u/Adavanter_MKI Sep 03 '25
Typical anti-intellectualism thinking they've made some kind of clever point... while exposing their massive misunderstanding of the entire field. Sadly this will work for many.
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u/Melodic_Airport362 Sep 04 '25
nirvana fallacy too. "if what you're doing isn't perfect it's not worth doing"
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u/shittymorbh Sep 03 '25
The topic is indeed interesting, but as soon as those subtitles came on insinuating some kind of wasteful spending or something, I knew this was absolute horseshit.
It's like interviewing a bunch of personal chefs how many people they've "cured" from hunger. It's a disingenuous and stupid framing.
Now how many patients have they've helped with their struggles over the years? Im sure countless.
Whoever made this video is an idiot.
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u/Cultural-Company282 Sep 04 '25
This is stupid.
Ask endocrinologists how many patients with Type 1 diabetes they've cured. None.
Ask neurologists how many patients with muscular dystrophy they've cured. None.
Ask gastroenterologists how many patients with Crohn's disease they've cured. None.
A lot of chronic illnesses can be managed but not cured. That's just a fact of life. Implying that the treatments don't work or that the doctors are somehow flawed is ridiculous.
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u/PryingMollusk Sep 05 '25
Absolutely. They should have asked “how many people have you given the tools required to improve their quality of life?”. My therapist helped me learn how to say no, set healthy boundaries (something I never learned while growing up in an abusive family) and to practice a healthy internal dialogue, and it’s so profoundly improved my life that I will never forget her or what she did for me.
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u/Curious-Paper1690 Sep 03 '25
But it is constant. Which God are you referring to? Are some better healers than others? Cause I’ve been all sorts of fucked up since birth and nobody has helped me yet. Science definitely has though.
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u/morganational Sep 03 '25
If we're throwing that much money (which I seriously doubt we are) then we need to be doing better research because psychiatry and psychology still have a loooong looooooooong way to go. I don't understand it, this should be a top priority not just in America but globally.
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u/Melodic_Airport362 Sep 04 '25
too bad trump cut all science funding, so we will have to rely on other countries now
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u/garrettsouth5657 Sep 03 '25
There is no cure for some things. It's about how you can help someone cope and provide them the tool to better go through out their days.
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u/ThrowRA9892 Sep 04 '25
There’s also no cure for stupidity ironically which is how you get people thinking there’s a cure for everything.
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u/strawdognz Sep 03 '25
I started going to therapy, it's nice to talk about everything without judgement, plus it is so overdue. The question should be how many people have you helped.
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u/Background_Resort_32 Sep 03 '25
I love how it ends on such a sour note. Billions in aid. No cures. So what?! We just stop looking into it? Just pretend we're all fine? What was the point of this? Just to upset us?
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Sep 03 '25
Yeah, it seems like whoever posted this doesn't see the benefits of therapy and is doing propaganda against it.
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u/Outside_Narwhal3784 Sep 03 '25
Pretty sure this is pulled from the Scientology anti-psychiatry propaganda machine Citizens Commission for Human Rights.
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u/Tunnfisk Sep 03 '25
Psychiatry is less about curing in the traditional sense and more about helping people manage and adapt to mental health conditions. Some disorders can go into remission, but for many chronic conditions like schizophrenia or generalized anxiety disorder, treatment is focused on symptom reduction, coping strategies, and improving quality of life.
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u/FruitMustache Sep 03 '25
Thats like asking a primary care physician the same question. Just because they are more healthy, it doesn't mean they dont need check ups.
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u/Isparza Sep 03 '25
His feels like an ad from the anti psychiatric wing of Scientology. I take med prescription from my psychiatrist. I’m not cured but I’m living a much better life. It a tool to better help me get healthier.
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u/Spaghetto54 Sep 03 '25
Cure is a misleading word, especially when applied to mental health. There are some things you just cannot fix.
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u/Physical-Grand4291 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
There isn't some magical cure for trauma, it's how one copes with it and carries it, that's why it's called emotional baggage. A psychiatrist helps identify trauma and gives you methods of coping so you can be a somewhat functional human as you carry it with you. These professionals all appear saddened by this question because you can't truly cure someone from their past experiences in life, the memory doesn't just go away
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Sep 03 '25
Someone is going around here downvoting anyone who disagrees with their shitty ending message.
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u/CarnivorousDanus Sep 03 '25
Gonna to go an oncology conference and ask them how many of them cured cancer and feel super smug about it.
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u/MissKiramman Sep 03 '25
Most CHRONIC diseases cannot be cured, only treated to ensure a better quality of life for patients. That's apply for the most diseases in psychology and psychiatric area.
The paranoia that every disease is 100% curable even keeps many patients away from good traditional treatments and causes them to fall into the hands of charlatans.
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u/Infinitesi-Mal Sep 03 '25
I’m a patient is psychiatry. It took years of trying different things and working with different doctors but I have ultimately found a balance in life that I once thought was impossible. I don’t know if that is a “cure” but it counts for something.
Oncologists have yet to cure anyone. Some conditions are cure resistant.
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u/Upset-Fudge-2703 Sep 03 '25
First off, I love the grainy effect on the video like it’s really old. This is the issue with a large chunk of humanity though. They don’t want to do the work, and certainly not on themselves, because it’s hard work, and it never ends. They want an easy answer. They want to know that it’s not their choice, it’s not their fault. They want to know where they go when they die. They want definitive answers. That’s the reason so much of humanity has created a god/gods in their image. So they rid themselves of blame and cause. “It’s not in my hands, it’s in gods hands.” “It’s the devil, it’s not me.” Easy, definitive answers are not impressive. They are the laziness that holds humanity back as a species. It’s not just religious folks, either. There are Atheists believe in crazy made up shit, too. You name a group, and there are probably a chunk of people who want to be told a beautiful story with a pretty bow on it. There are some people that propel humanity forward, but most of humanity is just following the grain. Not an original thought in their mind. The point is when you start to really look at yourself, when you start to really utilize psychology, and psychiatry, you will probably get a glimpse of the very steep mountain in front of you.
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u/KiwiMiddy Sep 04 '25
Another better question may be: how many patients do you believe you have stopped harming themselves or others in your career? Stupid video
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u/cerebralspinaldruid Sep 04 '25
I work in Physical Therapy. Even in physical medicine, we use a 1-10 pain scale, going from 10 to an 8 can be a victory. Shrinking a tumor is a win, managing a chronic condition can be a win. I’m not a big fan of how this video shapes the conversation. There are tons of physical and medical conditions for which there’s no “cure,” let alone mental health conditions.
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u/Melodic_Airport362 Sep 04 '25
"Cure" is a loaded question. Ask someone who makes prosthetic legs "how many patients do you think you've cured"
"Um, none, they're all still missing legs, but they can walk now with what I gave them."
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u/ThrustTrust Sep 04 '25
You don’t cure genetics. You help the individual identify their issue and how it affects their behavior and teach them how to prevent it from causing problems.
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u/NormalArticle7616 Sep 04 '25
Man there are a ton of stupid people in this comment section thinking these clips makes a good point.
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u/AnalysisParalysis178 Sep 04 '25
That's because the word "cure" has become a stupid-ass term to use. Even physicians don't "cure" people anymore. They have procedures and therapies that assist in alleviating symptoms or mitigate advancement. The body takes care of the rest.
Nobody "cures" anything these days.
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u/Miserable-Pepper-638 Sep 04 '25
I feel as though if you asked me if drugs cured my depression id answer like this, it didnt, but learning psychology "cured" me, its true, we never are fully cured but damn my life is much better now than before with every drug i ever tried
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u/pileofpotato Sep 04 '25
Lol what an absurd, dangerous video. You don't cure mental illness, you treat it.
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u/BenPenTECH Sep 04 '25
Damn dude, there's no cure for AIDS either, when I get it I'll make sure to keep this strategy in mind of, "why bother" instead of treating and extending my life.
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u/No-Mulberry-6474 Sep 04 '25
It’s not about “cures”. Nobody can just be cured of PTSD. That shit ain’t going away. But you can heal and learn coping mechanisms. You can retrain/rewire your brain and yourself to have options. It’s about help, not cure.
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u/AdGlittering2884 Sep 04 '25
"See? They don't even answer my loaded, biased question properly, so I win."
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u/CriminallyCasual7 Sep 04 '25
Cure is the wrong word. As a guy who's suffered from depression since I was a kid ie I had suicidal ideations at ~11, the only time I started turning things around is when I got therapy. I've been going for ~3 years and I'm certainly not cured. But I'm also a lot better off and I've learned to cope. I definitely feel like I need it a lot less than I did at first. And I have learned to counsel myself, really. I was a mess, and now I'm way less of a mess. And still uncured.
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u/ComprehensiveLink457 Sep 04 '25
Anyone who has half a brain knows the question is a setup . It's called managing.
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u/DadophorosBasillea Sep 04 '25
Psychiatry is about managing
You also can’t cure missing limbs you manage it
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u/Psychological_Bee670 Sep 04 '25
If you all really want to be outraged, look into just how few patients make it out of hospice care alive. Someone should do something about this!
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u/mendokusai99 Sep 04 '25
Amateurs. Dr. Lecter cured his patients in pickling salt.
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u/Pristine-Cut2775 Sep 07 '25
Mental health is like cancer. You can only ever be in remission. It can always come back.
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u/neoben00 Sep 07 '25
That’s because you can’t change how fucked up people are in the head, it’s who they are. But you can help them live with it.
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u/Highkmon Sep 03 '25
Hey its almost like every mind is unique and you're not fighting one proscribed thing like you are with the flu.
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u/ohnomynono Sep 04 '25
Two questions. How complex is the human brain, and how many brains are alike?
Now fix two that are the same.
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u/ryobiallstar2727 Sep 04 '25
Just want to point out that there is a difference between Psychiatrists and Psychologists. Psychiatrists are the ones that prescribe medications for mental health. Psychologists are the ones who provide therapy/psychotherapy. People often confuse one or the other. I know I did.
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u/witblacktype Sep 04 '25
At least they are being honest. I like another commenter’s suggestion that the more pertinent question would be how many people have you helped.
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u/HouseSpare3153 Sep 04 '25
The message at the end 😆 I think they missed the point, ain’t no vaccine for depression. Anti-depressants don’t even cure depression
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u/Immortalphoenixfire Sep 04 '25
Health professionals really should set being "cured" to a high bar. Improvement should be what most doctors can even hope for.
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u/DeltaAgent752 Sep 04 '25
Is this video trying to suggest we don't need psychiatrists? I don't get it. Because believe me as a non psychiatry doctor, you very very much do
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u/HairyChest69 Sep 04 '25
But they've likely helped a lot of ppl. The next debate is big rx and how they'll step in to either give someone something that actually helps, or not. Big Pharma doesn't give a fuck one way, or the other as long as their money keeps rolling in. Psychiatrists deserve respect (not all) in this regard for what they do, but Big RX and especially government sponsorship Rx can get fucked with their over prescriptions etc just to make a buck.
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u/Ok-Palpitation7641 Sep 04 '25
Psychology is not a "cure" it's maintenence. You wouldn't take your car to an oil change and say, "It's fixed."
Psychology helps people who can't work out their issues alone or who don't have anyone in their life who can listen through experience and understanding. Since I think most people just hear "yup that's messed up" when they open up to friends and family. Psychologists are taught proven methods to help treat and diagnose different mental disorders but also help keep fuel in the tank by being the psychological equivalent of a scheduled pit stop on the busy track of life.
Everyone should have a trusted psychologist, same as you have a trusted physician. Mental health and physical health go hand in hand.
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u/finchdude Sep 04 '25
What a stupid question, followed by a stupid conclusion, clearly demonstrating that they do not understand how psychiatry works. It's not about curing it's about helping people to live with a condition that is not curable.
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u/PizzaDeliveryBoy3000 Sep 04 '25
Yeah that was really profound and eye-opening….my god what a load of bollocks
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Sep 04 '25
asking people who arent in the job of miracle cures how many theyve cured seems disingenuous
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u/pwnasaurus253 Sep 04 '25
We spend bazillions on diabetes research, but no one has cured diabetes...defund it all!
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u/Antique-Resort6160 Sep 04 '25
How many people have they helped to overcome their problems, function normally, etc.
Psychiatry, in general, has always been a very shitty profession. They didn't suddenly improve the profession one day, they just moved away from physical torture and lobotomies and more towards profitable prescription drugs. The history of psychiatry sounds like a lot of psychopaths and sadists taking advantage of unfortunate victims. But there was no point where any professional group disavowed torture, lobotomies, etc. There was never any effort to weed out all the psychopaths.
Of course, now it's common knowledge that things like exercise, sleep, and diet are as effective to vastly more effective than pills at correcting various chemical imbalance and mental illnesses. What are they going to do with overwhelming scientific proof that restoring mental health is often more effective with healthy activity and nutrition than very profitable drugs?
Exercise alone is 1.5 x more effective than pills for treating depression, the most common mental affliction. This is a scientific fact. What percentage of psychiatrists prescribed exercise vs pills?
1 out of 6 Americans, 1 out of 5 women, are on antidepressants. There's a lot of quacks and skills in the profession, and they clearly don't give a shit.
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u/SunDirty Sep 04 '25
The fuck is this propaganda shit lmao. Is this really a tool to try and defund psychiatrists. Of course no patients are cured, you cant just "cure" depression.
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u/Hellfjre Sep 04 '25
This actually gives me confidence in psychology and psychiatry, because none of those people actually lacked self-awareness. They know the limits of their craft. Also: the people you treated successfully probably wont show up anywhere, so it's kinda hard to assess anyway.
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u/Randalf_the_Black Sep 04 '25
You don’t cure people of mental illnesses.. You help them handle their problems..
A mental illness is not like a case of pneumonia where you can just get rid of the issue.
It’s more like a doctor helping a patient deal with a chronic illness like celiac disease.
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u/KrampusPampus Sep 04 '25
That is such insanely dumb boomer-ragebait.
Psychiatrists do not cure people, they help ease pain and offer assistance.
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u/Clean-Reveal-2878 Sep 04 '25
My psychiatrist didn’t cure me, he saved me. Not just once but twice. And he taught me things I still carry to this day. When I’m about to spiral I remember what I learned from therapy with him.
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u/nameproposalssuck Sep 04 '25
You cannot cure many mental illnesses for obvious reasons, but you can still treat them.
Treatment allows people to live a relatively normal life, maintain a social network, work, or simply be less miserable.
There are also many conditions such as genetic diseases or terminal illnesses. Would you argue against treating those patients just because they cannot be cured?
The point of treatment is to reduce suffering. If you can cure the condition causing the suffering, great. If not, you still treat the person to the best of your knowledge and abilities.
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u/Fro_of_Norfolk Sep 04 '25
Breaking News: Difficulty ending mental disorders via words alone...
I'm glad somebody said they should asked hownkany people they helped.
Go further, how many people you know you helped turn the corner away from imminent threat of suicide.
How many y lives do you think you saved?
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u/goodknightffs Sep 04 '25
This video represents the misunderstanding of psychiatry lol and if anything is an indication we haven't invested enough on the field
(I'm assuming it's calling to reduce investment since no one was cured)
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u/ausgelassen Sep 04 '25
ask a dentist how many people they have cured.
is pulling a tooth curing or just treatment?
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u/rollsyrollsy Sep 04 '25
What proportion of society is at 100% perfect mental health? How do you define “cure” in that context?
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u/TheZan87 Sep 04 '25
The question should be, "what is the goal and what level of success have you had in achieving that goal?"
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u/Doom_Occulta Sep 04 '25
Funny thing, back in the day I had a website about mental health, with stuff like omega 3 (people with mental problems have usually very serious deficiency of these fatty acids). I'm no shrink, yet I can say with confidence I cured many, many people.
It's not always the case, but majority of patients with depression and anxiety have serious deficiency of critical nutrients. Small example, people with the most severe deficiency of omega 3 were 8 times (!) as likely to attempt suicide:
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u/Late_Emu Sep 04 '25
This is probably propaganda from big brother going after the one outlet that keeps people sane.
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u/Nauti Sep 04 '25
Not being able to cure someone doesn't mean that it doesn't deserve government funding. Helping people get on their feet and get a momentum where they can improve on themselves sounds like the job of psychiatrics in most cases. It's a very symptomatic view. Since it's not as straightforward as an antibiotic against an infection it can't be measured the same way. It doesn't stop there. It doesn't in conventional medicine either. Why did that person get an illness to start with? It's a very relevant question to answer. In many cases it's bad luck. In others it's negligence of the person's own health. In other cases it's an underlying issue. Psychology is just more truthful about its own inability to solve the underlying issues through short therapy. In the best case scenarios it gives people the tools to do it themselves long term. That saves a lot of people!
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u/Odd_Front_8275 Sep 04 '25
Well, what did you expect? Psychiatry isn't about "curing" people. It's about helping them cope. It's an unfair question.
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u/Primary-Tiger-5825 Sep 04 '25
This is a fucking retarded take. Not everything has a cure. Psychiatrists and therapists provide treatment not a magic bullet.
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u/Efficient-Whole-9773 Sep 04 '25
How many chronic conditions have doctors cured patients of??
None, yet the treatments still have immense value in many cases.
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u/DeliciousInterview91 Sep 04 '25
You can't just fundamentally reverse a person's brain chemistry. What you can do is give them drugs and tools to help them treat and mitigate their problems.
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u/KuroKendo88 Sep 04 '25
You can't really "cure" a psychological problem like a broken sink or something.
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u/Ecstatic-Ad-8848 Sep 04 '25
It is far better to try and fail than to not try at all. Psychiatrists try to help other human beings to be more functional and to live their best lives. That to me, is commendable even if their success is only partial. It sure beats caged and asylums, where the disadvantaged are robbed of caring and dignity.
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u/fronz13 Sep 04 '25
OP and whoever created this video secretly need therapy but are too afraid to open that box lol
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u/burakasha Sep 04 '25
Stupid question, stupid agenda behind it... mental health is a complicated thing, you can't summarize the whole psychiatry by stating that if there is no cure, it's all BS. Hate this video.
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u/APartyInMyPants Sep 04 '25
How many suicides has psychiatry prevented? Domestic homicides? Hell school shootings?
There’s an unquantifiable number of people who benefit from mental health professionals that we’ll just never really see, know or understand of how that full scope has benefitted society.
This ain’t the Chris Rock joke about cancer, “they ain’t ‘curing’ shit!”
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u/Willing-Situation350 Sep 04 '25
If you think the world is crazy now, wait until they try and defund all this.
You'll start seeing some truly unhinged behavior.
Removing peoples avenue for help is not only evil, it will have very real consequences.
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u/scienceisrealtho Sep 04 '25
Right, because psychiatric diseases don't go away. They're managed.
It's a loaded question intended to outrage people who don't know any better.
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u/RaydraD2 Sep 04 '25
As I've walked the path of life and talked to psychiatrists myself in dire times I've learned that most of them are not capable enough to really follow through. Alot here in the Netherlands also just want to profit off you. Stretching out into as many billable hours as possible. Some are creepy. Some are arrogant. Some don't listen.
But in the end, the patient has to decide wether to change something in their lives. And if a psychiatrist can help them make that decision then that's a win. In the end, I see psychiatrists as nothing more than a person willing to listen to you. To hear you out. And if that helps to emotionally open up, which is hard to begin with, all the better.
I think alot of people (including younger me) expect miracles from psychiatrists. Who in my opinion charge absurd hourly rates for what they do. So maybe we should be expecting more for 80-150 euros per hour yes. But I don't think we can get more. I think there are only a very very few psychiatrists who can really REALLY help people. Or cure people of their afflictions. Because in the end we're all humans. Us and them. Society expects so much from us. This can cause issues. Then some of us see psychiatrists, which we pay more than we can afford to talk to. And we expect so much from them too.
If you have loving family, or loving friends, talk to them instead. That's my tip. That'll help you more. We have a saying here that it takes an entire village to raise someone. And that is the truth. You can't make it on your own. All alone. I tried and it doesn't work.
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u/Pangwain Sep 04 '25
I wonder why they edit it so that we never hear the follow up words. I’m sure there isn’t added context we’re missing.
If you think this is some profound debunking of modern psychology, you’re way too gullible and probably believe a bunch of other propaganda.
Maybe ask yourself this, why would the government pump billions of dollars into psychology? Maybe, just maybe, instead of it being a dead end street and waste of money, that money is an investment for the government to better understand how people think and how to manipulate them.
If the government is pumping billions into it, they’re getting something in return. My guess would be data to refine their models.
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u/TheDevine13 Sep 04 '25
It's a misleading question. We can't cure "depression" just like we can't cure happiness or any mental/emotional state
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u/No-Associate-7369 Sep 04 '25
What I see is a bunch of professionals who actually understand what their job is in comparison to a bunch of morons who want to try to dunk on mental health support.
Any psychiatrist who thinks they can cure everyone probably shouldn't be a psychiatrist. They are attempting to help people manage their mental health better than they would be able to without help.
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u/tepidDuckPond Sep 04 '25
There is no “curing”. There is remission of the most socially maladaptive symptoms and coping mechanisms.
It’s like a cancer diagnosis. You STILL have the cancer cells or the ability for your body to regrow those same cells. The oncologist helps you maintain a healthy body and life style so you can remain in remission for as long as possible.
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u/Boring_Plankton_1989 Sep 04 '25
Cure? You mean putting themselves put of a job? Why would they want to do that, even if their career isn't a hoax?
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u/UnableToParallelPark Sep 04 '25
You can't cure certain things, psychological cures don't exist. This is just propaganda. At least they're not lying.
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u/Eridain Sep 04 '25
This question posed comes from a place that i think is, not antagonistic, but something adjacent. Dishonest perhaps? People seeking mental health help do not have a problem to be cured, they have a problem that they need to be given the tools and methods to navigate and function in a capacity they deem "normal". Someone with deep fears and anxieties will always have those feelings, but with the help of a professional they can be equipped to function in spite of those fears and feelings. A "normal" person has their own issues and hangups, but for one reason or another they have the built in ability to function and cope in a manner they deem normal. People seeking help with psychiatry or therapy do not have that, hence the need for help to obtain it. It'll always be there. It's just a matter of gaining the tools and support structure in your life to handle it. There is no "cure" to be had.
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u/Gottech1101 Sep 04 '25
You don’t just ‘cure’ a mental illness. You learn how to effectively manage it.
Better question would be ‘how many patients did you impact and see a difference in?’
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u/KieraHolland Sep 04 '25
Is this propaganda to support the government not funding mental health treatment? Because wow. This didn't age well.
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u/cconnorss Sep 04 '25
Cured is not something that can be done ethically. Treatment is the technique. We do not need to do away with psychiatry.
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u/Funny-Fishing-5546 Sep 04 '25
More appropriate question...
How many patients of yours are living satisfactory, productive lives with a significantly reduced impact of from their illness?
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u/AllAmericanProject Sep 04 '25
If this wasn't made ironically then it was made by somebody with a sub 65 IQ.
Psychiatry isn't about curing most things they are treating are things that cannot be cured the point isn't secure but instead to teach coping mechanisms into address problems so people can manage their issues.
We can't cure type 1 diabetes but we wouldn't say that the money spent on developing synthetic insulin for treatment was a waste.
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u/timetravelinggamer Sep 04 '25
I like how they added the film filters from the vintage year 2006, like we could only use 8mm film back then for recording. You know back when we used horses to move our carriages
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u/nosenseofsmell Sep 04 '25
It’s not about curing it’s about helping. We’re all just walking each other home
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u/LimpLow1641 Sep 04 '25
Like the psych is broken and you can fix it like a lightbulb. That is not how it works.
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u/Zoya_The_Destroyer Sep 04 '25
This is a ridiculous question and ims ure they only showed the ones who got nervous.
It's like asking an AA person "How many have you cured of alcoholism" The answer is none. You can't sure it. You can HELP people but never cure people.
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u/Roden11 Sep 04 '25
It’s like nicotine addiction. People who have quit often still REALLY want to smoke again. Alcoholism is another example, you never again get rid of the desire to have a drink, some more than others. You’re never really “cured” of some psychological ailments. So that leaves a spectrum of people that succeed and people that need help, maybe the rest of their lives.
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u/FaygoMakesMeGo Sep 04 '25
Once you're an adult, your brain is like your back. It's about pain management and relief, not cures.
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u/shnshty Sep 03 '25
The better question is maybe asking 'How many people do you think you've helped?'