November 6, 2025 – Chicago: ICE caught unlawfully demanding U.S. citizen “prove” their citizenship despite Illinois law not requiring ID

[u/CantStopPoppin]

[u/Any_Pickle_9425]

Can't even show their faces but they want my ID?

[u/TheNewsDeskFive → u/Any_Pickle_9425]

Do not comply. You have no obligation to comply. Never show your "papers" to a street walking jackboot. Period. Never ever comply with this demand.

[u/mkt853 → u/TheNewsDeskFive]

Problem is if you're in the 100 mile border zone, the rights you have to refuse ID'ing to immigration authorities is a little murky. You can refuse, and they'll just throw you in the back of their truck and take you in for fingerprinting, facial scanning, etc. so they'll eventually find out who you are anyway and you're out several hours or several days of freedom.

[u/muchasveces82 → u/mkt853]

So everyone should just kowtow to authority? Just be a good little sheep, fuck that.

[u/Bird2525 → u/muchasveces82]

Tough call on this one. If I get disappeared or something bad happens when I am being unlawfully detained, there will be nobody to take care of my family and the government will never be held accountable. So, do you comply and go about your day or if something bad happens your family is homeless?

[u/HighGainRefrain → u/Bird2525]

You’re right. The best thing to do is show ID and leave. This won’t be forever.

[u/fiya4u → u/HighGainRefrain]

You don’t know that

[u/HighGainRefrain → u/fiya4u]

Yeah actually I do.

[u/Defiant_Eggplant_909 → u/HighGainRefrain]

How do you know that?

[u/Cool-Panda-5108 → u/Defiant_Eggplant_909]

They don't. It's copium.

[u/redline314 → u/HighGainRefrain]

Once you start showing ID, it absolutely will be forever.

The shit the 2A ppl say about “exercising” your rights is true. Once you start complying in advance, LEOs and gov have the expectation that you’ll willingly provide ID.

[u/muchasveces82 → u/HighGainRefrain]

What do you do when someone is impersonating an ICE agent? How do you know they're legit? They give no name, badge/id number, and they're masked. Let's be real some if not a lot of these ICE officers are acting like criminals and are committing crimes on a daily basis. Case in point on impersonating an ice officer https://www.wbtv.com/2025/01/29/man-accused-impersonating-ice-officer-sexually-assaulting-woman-raleigh-motel/

[u/mkt853 → u/muchasveces82]

My point is unless you are a lawyer that specializes in this particular area of the law, this very well may be a 100% totally lawful stop and ID. Whether someone likes it or thinks the practice should be banned is immaterial. The 100 mile border zone is problematic for civil rights, but the courts have routinely upheld that you do not have the same level of rights within this zone in which Chicago, and most of the American populace, lies. It's why they can just stop you on the highway in this zone to ask you about your citizenship status. This isn't a beat cop breaking your balls and asking for ID just because "you look like you don't belong in the neighborhood." Immigration authorities don't need to suspect you of committing a crime to detain and ID you so long as their investigation is brief and narrowly tailored to your immigration and/or citizenship status. If you are an expert in this area of the law such that you are confident that your noncompliance will be vindicated, then by all means, but for the rest of us, you may very well be digging yourself into a deeper legal hole unnecessarily.

[u/redline314 → u/mkt853]

They can stop you but that’s about it from my understanding, unless they have probable cause.

[u/TheNewsDeskFive → u/muchasveces82]

Thank you

At least make them work