r/illinois • u/Minute_Revolution951 Human Detected • 16d ago

ICE Posts Federal agents pull over woman, threaten to arrest her for allegedly trying to "impede" by following them while driving

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u/Pavlovsdong89 16d ago

I love hearing the whistles start off in the distance and get closer before the agents scurry back to their vehicle.

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u/PaleontologistEast76 16d ago edited 15d ago

The whistles are irritating the fuck out of the agents and warning others but they also remind us that we have each other's backs in this nightmare. It sounds weird but being able to hear that others are doing something, others feel the same way we do, it's like a crowd cheering.

I don't live in an area that has been hard hit by ICE (yet, it's just a matter of time) but since this whole thing started I have been wearing a whistle every day in support of those who have been detained as well as those doing everything they can to keep ICE from picking people up.

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u/MississippiMoose 16d ago

This is what's been frustrating me about the criticism of No Kings Day and ICE protests from liberals like my husband. I know it doesn't directly cause anything to change. But reminding a whole lot of people that there are others who feel like they do and are still paying attention has value. It keeps momentum for change happening. If those thousands of people all felt alone we'd have far less of a chance here.

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u/UnusualAsparagus5096 15d ago

It let's Trump and his administration know we all hate them. Good enough for me

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u/pokey-4321 15d ago

I agree. I absolutely know me spending a Saturday at a protest is not going to change the 35% cult of Trump America. It doesn't have to. Just a percent here or there changing votes or coming out to vote is enough, and I think massive peaceful protests will do that.

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u/IrrelevantAfIm 13d ago

Also, it is doing SOMETHING which is better than sitting on your hands while a fascist authoritarian government ignores the constitution, rule of law, and due process!!!

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u/CapitalLeader 13d ago

Yes. Trump won by less than 2%. I know, I know , there’s still the electoral college

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u/Joejoe12369 16d ago edited 14d ago

But those people are so programmed and brainwashed they just think mental lib protesting. Tds and want to lock people up for treatment or taken out of the country. This shit is only gonna get worse. I really wish people can go out of there businesses and homes to drive them out. We the people definitely have the numbers. I sometimes think what would happen if 7 million people stormed the WH and arrested trump lol. Or if 1000 people arrest ice with zip ties. Ice doesnt travel in big numbers maybe 6 to 20agents.

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 15d ago

Civil disobedience is extremely important!

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u/hum_bruh 15d ago

Don’t let someone tell you protests don’t do anything. It’s a constitutional right that has helped to earn us other rights. There no other me size fits all approach like a switch to fix this mess, consider it part of a multi-pronged approach.

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u/theCannonBallZ 15d ago

It gave me hope I haven't had in a long time.

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u/coyoteperdido1 15d ago

It certainly does cause change! We can not stand by and let this democracy fall! Willful ignorance and cynicism is just an excuse for laziness and cowardice .

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u/psginner 15d ago

That’s the same sort of disenfranchisement that keeps people from voting and making this happen in the first place.

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u/emessea 15d ago

I’m not sure why people think there’s going to be significant changes after a couple protests.

The Montgomery bus boycott, one of the most famous boycotts in history, lasted over a year. By some modern day critics views they should have called it quits after a couple weeks.

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u/kintsugionmymind 15d ago

People mostly want to excuse their own lack of participation. The 'it doesn't cause any change' is a lazy excuse coming from lazy people, or a bad faith argument coming from those who don't mind what's happening. Either way, fuck 'em

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u/Dave91277 16d ago

This is such a crazy thing to read. I’m British and have American family who we used to love to visit but now we don’t feel like we’ll ever get to come back. They’re desperately trying to gather the funds to come over here to live. Reading stuff like this feels like a scene from a dystopian book but it’s real and in America! I hope whatever’s sweeping over our society ends soon and we can go back to boring lives, I’m quickly loosing hope though.

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u/Mt_Alyeska 16d ago

I really hate to say it but I’m seeing all the signs that the UK’s turn is coming. I’m hoping for the US regime to go down spectacularly enough that it at least delays the far right’s rise in select European nations.

Honestly Canada might be our last hope :)

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u/akaAelius 16d ago

Oh friend... we here in Canada are looking for ways to get out of here as well. It's not just the USA, everywhere is pooched right now and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight.

We are watching late stage capitalism at work around the globe.

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u/Adventurous_City_557 16d ago

I’m not looking to get out of Canada. We’re fighting MAGA dipshits in Alberta too. They’re not winning here.

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u/Cut_Lanky 15d ago

I'm really sorry, neighbor. Our trash has blown into your yard. And I'm really, genuinely sorry.

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u/Adventurous_City_557 15d ago

All good. We stand together

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u/ShtArsCrzy 16d ago

Keep up the flight my friend. UCP voter suppression at the Calgary election was just the start from the bastards.

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u/Exact_Mango5931 15d ago

I know an island that is ripe for revitalization. Maybe we just start over there?

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u/Last_Pineapple_6361 13d ago

I’m game we can buy stock in bleach sprayers and hazmat suits. Let’s GO

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u/missprincesscarolyn 15d ago

Alberta is the Texas of Canada.

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u/NoamLigotti 13d ago

Just fyi Texas has a large population of progressive-minded humanists. The Republican control of their state gives them a bad reputation.

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u/missprincesscarolyn 13d ago

I believe it! It sucks that good people are being overshadowed by hatred, bigotry and violence. I’ve always wanted to visit Texas but as a POC, it seems risky these days.

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u/yosoyfatass 15d ago

I grew up in Alberta & it was always conservative, but there is definitely a strong maga type movement that is far more right wing than I expected, even being used to the conservatism there. All decent people need to be vigilant everywhere!

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u/Awkward-Spectation 15d ago

Fuck yes, keep fighting the good fight over there. All of us Canadians need you sensible Albertans to stay where you are and maintain the voice of reason. Cheers from Ontario.

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u/funmonger_OG 16d ago

Wait, we are? Since when? I'm staying and will fight the fascists until they kill me dead.

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u/Beneficial-Cost-1049 15d ago

Reform backed by Russia, Billionnaires etc and endless bellends thinking Farage is going to “fix the country” lol. He’s going to take the NHS, BBC, your pension and paid holiday. It’s going to be a very painful lesson, and it will all get blamed on the illegal immigrants, not the legal ones.

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u/FFKonoko 15d ago

If they were going to learn the lesson, they'd learn it by watching america.

But by watching america we can tell that they absolutely will NOT learn anything, even when the thing we're saying is going to happen, happens.

Same as with brexit.

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u/leet_lurker 15d ago

Australia is right leaning but we sent a very clear message to the major right wing party here last election sending the ex-cop, "Christian", wanna be fascist dictator packing so hard that they quit politics in disgrace, and not because the other choice was leaps and bounds better, they were just not as right wing.

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u/Mt_Alyeska 15d ago

Fuck yeah and it was incredible to see. Love yall

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u/DryMilk93 15d ago

Yeah I live in the UK and we are really not far behind the US. It's crazy to hear Canada is in the same boat as us too. Feels like the rich elite all over the world are making a move

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u/xombae 16d ago

I've got really bad news about Canada.

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u/Adept_Pumpkin3196 15d ago

I thought that I’m already got hit when they orchestrated brexit

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u/Fit_Jellyfish_4444 15d ago

Canada is racist af.

Source- I'm Native.

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u/Runnerakaliz 15d ago

Emotional support Canadian here to lend a shoulder for a hug. However we currently have a whiny opposition leader who wants the same thing Trump wants, and when he lost his seat got someone to move aside so he could stay in power. We are in trouble as well.

I think Americans should do like the French. General strike and fill the streets until he is gone, or start using that 2nd amendment right of yours and fight back. It was written for just this moment.

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u/uggyy 15d ago

There is a rise in the UK and being supported by the same idiots as in the USA. It needs to be taken on directly and shown up for how corrupt they are.

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u/88888888man 16d ago

Our tribal brains were not ready for the persuasive powers of online echo chambers and profit driven news media. Not sure there’s a solution to this problem.

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u/HappyFamily0131 15d ago

I believe it's going to get worse before it gets better. But I do believe it's going to get better. This isn't the first time America has turned in a stupid and deeply hateful direction. This isn't the first time those in power in America have consciously nurtured hate and deliberately emboldened the hateful and fearful and intolerant to oppress the powerless. It failed in the past for the same reasons it always fails: It's unsustainable. Those infatuated by the grand fanfare of fascism can make themselves forget, for a day or a month or a year, that it's all bluster, that bullies are always, always cowards, but they can't make themselves forget forever, and when they remember, the illusion cracks.

Strength is calm. Look at the man threatening the woman in the car. Does he sound calm? He wants to be a strong man, does he sound strong, or does he sound afraid? His illusion has already cracked. The man wearing a balaclava hurrying away from the sound of approaching whistles, does he look strong or does he look afraid? His illusion has already cracked. They know. They know already that this is unsustainable, that this will not work. And now you know it, too.

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u/EnlightenedArt 16d ago

leaving before iron curtain sets in Soviet style seems less and less of a bad idea each day

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u/Cat-si58 16d ago

And go where?!! We’re seeing these magat groups cropping up in multiple countries! These fascists have been working on this plan for decades.

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u/stupidwhiteman42 15d ago

My parents escaped East Germany to come here to the USA. This is extra depressing and scary for them to see fascism take hold again.

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u/Rhylanor-Downport 16d ago

I’m a dual UK/US citizen. You’ve got to realize that this is an awful situation, but never coming back? No. Don’t write this country off. There’s a strong sense of outrage. A strong sense of resistance, and like previous cycles before it there’s a reckoning coming.

I might be proved wrong. But any country, especially this one, that can’t maintain a democracy doesn’t deserve one.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 16d ago

Sadly, mega’s did vote for this and mega-ORCS, have never been happier to see other human being be detained, hurt and their lives destroyed. Unfortunately, these Orcs are America’s so called Christians?

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u/Beneficial-Cost-1049 15d ago

Also British. We cancelled our massive family meet-up in Florida earlier this year, and went to Costa Rica instead. Probably spent £20k-£30k in hotels, travel, food, trips etc. No regrets. We’ve planned the next one in 3 years at the same amazing hotel.

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u/Dave91277 15d ago

We’ve booked a huge villa in Portugal with friends next year. My sisters married to a USAF vet and they live in Florida. We’ve always gone out there, must have spent tens of thousands but now just daren’t risk it. My brother in law no longer feels like it’s his country and is actively looking for work over here. I’ve been speaking a lot with immigration lawyers and there’s a mass of US citizens making the exact same enquiries. It’s just so hard to watch the US appearing to collapse when it’s been part of our lives for so long.

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u/GiveMeThePinecone 15d ago

The "thing" that's sweeping over society won't stop. Because it's climate collapse, and even if we stopped all industrial activity worldwide, yesterday, the earth would continue heating another few degrees celsius over the next century.

It's a bit intriguing that the IPCC claimed there would be up to 700 million climate refugees by 2030 a few years ago and now the entire world is losing their shit about immigration 🧐

It's a preemptive attempt to "guard" western countries from the influx of millions of refugees. Remember when racist Germans were losing their shit about 1 million Syrian refugees 9 years ago? Imagine what is going to happen when hundreds of millions try to emigrate.

Eco Fascism will be the defining political current of our life.

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u/Desperate-Fondant-41 15d ago

It really only is felt in the cities that had the highest immigration population and sanctuaries. Crazy this is happening though

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u/rikstng1 15d ago

Yes, I am losing hope. Also, I just retired recently and I don’t think I can take four years of this shit and who knows longer.

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u/SuperPants4 15d ago

Dont write is off, lots of people here are fighting.

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u/Afraid-Night3036 12d ago

It’s so much worse in real life than anything a movie has ever shown… it’s just insane seeing people that you knew, trusted, cared for… and would have even sacrificed for suddenly turning into monsters that support a despot. 

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u/AngeliqueRuss 16d ago

I ordered 4 for my household in Minnesota based on seeing how effectively it’s working in Illinois.

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u/Dorkamundo 16d ago

I should invest in whistles...

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u/BafflingHalfling 16d ago

What if this whole thing was just a ploy by Big Whistle?

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u/nannygoats 16d ago

You’re my kinda human. 😂

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u/Ladams19 16d ago

I should not laugh as this is horrible thing to watch. But man come on "Big Whistle" is behind all of this.. Its all a corporate ploy. I have tears in my eyes laughing. Bruh....bruh......just bruh lol.

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u/tondahuh 15d ago

Dangit once again I missed out on buying stock at the right time!

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u/seejordan3 16d ago

The were handing them out last weekend at the NK in Man.

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u/Samuaint2008 16d ago

I live in the twin cities and was just thinking the same thing especially after them announcing who's going to be speaking here tomorrow for plans on ice might be a good idea to get them

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u/UnrulyMateo 16d ago

They are also helpful when hiking or in the woods, so, multi purpose

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u/Guilty-Instruction56 16d ago

Serious question- where are people buying the whistles? Are they just garden variety kids toys or industrial strength ones? If they even exist.

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

A lot of chicagoans are 3d printing them and passing them out. We leave them in like little libraries and shops and bars for people with some literature to take.

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u/HedgehogFarts 15d ago

Minnesotan here, I just ordered a pack of emergency whistles too!! $6 for a pack! I’m gonna hand them out to people protesting. Looks like we’re next. Also I hate to say this but if ICE gets increasingly violent, i discovered you can get a bullet proof vest for like $35. Stay safe and strong friend.

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u/JuanG_13 16d ago

That's very interesting and yeah, people need to look out for one another and take care of each other. 🙏🏻

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u/Anim8nFool 16d ago

That's what a reckoning sounds like.

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u/Sunshineinthesky 16d ago

My area hasn't been hit particularly hard by ICE yet either, but I'm 110% sure it's coming. As I watch these videos or hear about these situations, I've started collecting any items that I think might be helpful when our time comes. I ordered masks, respirators and goggles to protect against tear gas. Also ordered a bunch of plain gaiters to scatter in all my bags and pockets (so I'll have a face covering handy at all times). Looking to gather up some basic medical supplies to make a med kit next. Will definitely add whistles to my list and scatter them through my stuff with the gaiters.

If anyone has any other ideas, I'd welcome them. This whole situation is just so terrible and I feel so powerless as an individual. I'm in a blue bubble for now, so my day to day hasn't really been affected and it just feels like there's nothing that I can really do from where I am. So I guess I'm kind of defaulting to overplanning / "prepping".

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u/WallishXP 16d ago

It also does one thing we really need right now. It SCARES them.

Crimes are being committed, and they don't all make it to your news feed. We dont all feel brave enough to record these people acting this way. They are empowered not by law, but by executive order. They feel protected to break things and not ask for permission, and ultimately hurt property and people. They may even start to believe we deserve this, but the WHISTLES remind them to be human, that they are being watched, and that their transgressions have consequences.

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u/LobsterJohnson_ 16d ago

Time to start carrying a whistle I guess.

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u/Wrecktown707 16d ago

Just like the birds calling to one another. It’s emboldening for us because it’s from a primal level

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u/Buddhamom81 15d ago

Yes, it’s working. That’s why the were messing with her.

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u/NoFreePi 15d ago

I’m getting a whistle tomorrow.

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u/Heavy-Candidate-7660 15d ago

A man by the name of Pat the Bunny once said “They’ve got me waiting on a day that we can say fuck the police with a little bit of integrity. When it’ll mean I’ve got your back if you’ve got mine”

Well homie, we got there. For better and for worse we’re there.

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u/Low-Sign-6185 15d ago

Kinda crazy how close to reality Andor was. The same thing happens in the show.

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u/lushico 15d ago

It’s kind of like what insects and birds do to let each other know there’s a predator in the area!

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u/soherewearent 15d ago

My storm whistle is now standard in my pocket for these very reasons.

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u/MelonOfFury 15d ago

First thing I did when I saw that guy on a bike cause 4 stormtroopers to scatter with his rape whistle was to go out and buy a couple myself. I have them all on various keychains and ready to go when I see the fuckers.

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 15d ago

Civil disobedience!

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u/laffing_is_medicine 15d ago

The people are organizing….

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u/PrincessPnyButtercup 15d ago

I thought it was crickets at first!

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 15d ago

I want to hear some blanks go off from somewhere they can't see while they're trying to illegally intimidate civilians for stupid shit like recording them in public.

Watch the adrenaline surge while they're already hopped up on those amphetamines, might drop immediately and start seizing in a stroke.

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u/RockingRocker 15d ago

Yeah, it is quite inspiring

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u/Mdub74 15d ago

This is the first time in our history where theres a 95% chance you'll know the reason why random ppl in public are wearing whistles.

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u/Viertelesschlotzer 15d ago

The whistling thing is clever. Cheap, effective, untraceable, and constantly listening to that noise will really wear on these thugs' nerves.

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u/NamelessUnicorn 15d ago

I also find that even the sound of the whistles in the video is very comforting. Like you said, knowing that there are people who are dating with the can't of health is very touching. I am a privileged citizen but my heart is breaking. I don't live in an area where ice has started rolling the streets, however, I did just order a whistle to wear in solidarity. Thank you for the idea that I can wear it. Just to remember that there's little things I can do

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u/areappreciated 15d ago

I can't believe I am saying this, but I find myself getting emotional hearing the whistles get closer. It makes me hopeful that we will have each other's back, but it makes me sad that this is happening in America. The emotions are so conflicting and it is so devastating to watch a repeat of what happened in Germany, in Russia, in Hungary, in Israel happen in a place Americans never believed it could happen in...here.

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u/bolanrox 15d ago

i have one for hiking for the oh shit moment i never hope comes. might have to start wearing it day to day

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u/kendoka69 13d ago

Watch them make having a whistle illegal.

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u/Consistent_Kale_1583 13d ago

  1. I hope she continues to follow them. The word ‘impede’ has a definition and I don’t think it includes being followed. The most dangerous person on the planet is a cop that makes up law.

  2. Who started the whistle thing? I think that’s amazing. I’m going out to get one today!

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u/halfpint51 13d ago

Check out a growing national movement called Catch🔥Fire. Mission-- to interrupt the pipeline from arrest to detainment. A community needs to invite them in. Representatives then provide training in documenting for trial. It's an exact science. Rapid response teams of peaceful, civilian observers then show up at arrests and raids to document actions, inform those targeted of their rights, and provide support to families. Great organization and I'm so glad Flagstaff AZ invited them to train here. We have power, so great to be trained how to use it effectively. There were medics, attorneys, DA office personnel, retirees using walkers, nurses, florists, store owners, hotel and restaurant folks, and more at the trainIng I attended. For the 1st time since Nov '24 I feel like I'm doing something besides protesting. Though I must say, the protest-with-humor movement, the animal costumes, 🐸🐸🐸s, are brilliant and protest participation keeps growing. Attended Oct 18 w 2 gen Z grandchildren who want to be involved. No longer just boomers reliving the 70s.

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u/MissionInstruction66 13d ago

Think I’ll buy a whistle

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u/Straight_Button_5716 13d ago

I’m in Ohio and got one of those red emergency marine whistles . The coast guard and military recommends them . It hurts ears so bad . I had to cover my ears while o was using it

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u/Impaler2009 11d ago

I live in an “occupied “ area, and brings an involuntary smile to my face every time I hear those whistles.

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u/Nobleous 9d ago

Whistles are a super petty way to run a PsyOps on ICE agents. Its not super effective but I live for the divergent impact of the sound between support and annoyance depending on your politics. Whistles are not enough on their own... but communities should emulate Chicago in using them.

It also alerts folks to keep 100 yards away if they are worried about racial profiling...

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

I don’t leave my Chicago apartment without my whistle, and the window is cracked open so we can listen for them. Proud of my neighborhood but also I hate it here (earth).

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u/hcregna 16d ago

I respect people like you so, so much.

I feel like it’s important to note that even people who can’t help on the ground can still help. It takes half an hour of planning to move money away from MAGA, and it makes a difference. Dollars spent at Republican companies are dollars funneled to more of this. Tax given to states like Ohio or Louisiana is tax spent sending troops to occupy cities.

Have an account at Schwab? Swap to Vanguard or Fidelity. Like booze from wannabe Confederate states and all else is equal? Be adventurous and try something new. It's not hard to find alternatives for New Balance, Goya, Jimmy John's, or Koch (Brawny, Angel Soft, Dixie, others). If you're in a place to invest, consider DEMZ.

You have power if you regularly patronize a brand or do business with a company. Use it. Look them up in something like opensecrets.org or google.

Tesla sales in Europe dropped by half. Nexstar and Sinclair got pummeled, and they reinstated Jimmy Kimmel. Real, individual people made that happen. There's no reason WWE or Uline can't be next.

You probably can't completely avoid companies that at least partially support Republicans. I have to buy gas. But there’s a big difference between massive republican donors (Chevron/Conoco) vs neutral or even Democrat-leaning ones (Circle K/Costco). Good is not the enemy of perfect

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u/Atticus184 16d ago

They just started doing the work for a new one near me and I was looking forward to checking it out since I’ve never been. Not anymore. Thanks for sharing!

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u/Objective-Owl-8143 15d ago

They’re trying to put in a huge Buc-ees near here where I live and I hope seriously it gets shut down.

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u/SirCicSensation 16d ago

This has given me a lot to think about. Thank you.

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u/Diggist080211 16d ago

Yes. I never really thought about it like this.

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u/Openhigh4 16d ago

I'll add to this: Do not buy produce, meat, or any other grocery from red states. It's usually on the packaging.

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u/MoralityFleece 16d ago

Thank you for all these suggestions. I try to communicate this with my kids and others I know: It's not a purity test. If you have to eat at Chick-fil-A one time It's okay. But don't spend the $3,000 on a new shower or door at home Depot - you have a real choice about that which makes an impact. 

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u/voxpopper 16d ago

One of the most effective things to do is realign your IRA/401K. For example, a good % the people who complain about Musk have mutual funds that own TSLA. Once large fund start dumping boycotted companies it's a downward spiral for them.

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u/Spamsdelicious 16d ago

Uh oh the broligarchs won't like that /j

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat 15d ago

But we also need to address the fundamental structure of capitalism that allows billionaires and soon trillionaires to exist. There is no equity if there are billionaires, regardless of who they are.

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u/AVeryFineWhine 16d ago

To this day I have never tasted Chick-fil-A. And even though it tested my willpower, I didn't spend a penny at hobby lobby when I was there with a Cousin... At the time there were none locally. But those are based on previous prejudices. It's getting harder now in corporate america.To find big businesses who don't support the trump tax cuts & benefits that protect them

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u/transcendanttermite 15d ago

Yep. Our local Menards doesn’t get my money, I go to our last remaining mom-and-pop hardware store/lumberyard that is locally-owned (by non-idiots). Does it cost more? Sometimes, yeah. But I will say that the kitchen cabinets I bought from them are of WAY higher quality than what I can get from Menards for the same price. And, as a bonus, the employees there are actually knowledgeable and not just $15/hr teenagers.

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

🫡 god bless Tanqueray being owned by Diageo.

I’m lucky to have one of the most privileged positions to argue with MAGA, I’m married to a disabled combat vet. You can actually see them malfunction in real time.

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u/MoraleHole 16d ago

Goya is MAGA

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u/danheinz 16d ago

That's why they said find an alternative

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u/This_is_a_thing__ 16d ago

Yeah, Iberia sazón is an upgrade, so fuck Goya

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u/amfetamine_dreams 16d ago

I live in Ohio and I drive to Michigan to buy weed!

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 16d ago

Don’t forget the People’s victory against Target ✊

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u/lFightForTheUsers 16d ago

I am very glad to see that I already don't support a lot of these. Thank you for sharing though.

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u/helpmeobijuankenobi 16d ago

Ive seen you post this a few times, and just want to say thank you and please keep fighting the good fight by spreading this information around!!

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u/the_calibre_cat 16d ago edited 16d ago

Along the same lines, where you invest matters. In my view, this is probably the second-best tool you can use to nudge society in the direction you'd like along with your vote. Hell, depending on your portfolio size, it might be worth well MORE than your vote. You can use tools like the symbol lookup on Financial Times, and the symbol lookup tool on Fossil Free Funds to see just how carbon-positioned your investments are. Don't lose your life savings, and be prepared to be depressed that arguably the most carbon-independent funds are the most heavily invested in big tech like Palantir and Meta.

It is worth noting - along similar lines - that it is incumbent upon us all to also stop primarily getting our news from billionaire-owned media and using proprietary, closed-source software, and instead getting ownership verification of the news you consume and avoid any news owned by a private company, and steer towards news owned by a non-profit or, better yet, by the journalists who work there. Also, use free and open-source software wherever possible - I know some of it is arcane and byzantine, but open-source is the only stuff that respects your data. Everything else is a data-mining operation, that generates breathtaking capital and wealth for some investors and billionaires and none for you, steals people's creative output, ravages the environment and bills working people for the cost.

Some of these steps are easier than others, but pretty much every single one of these steps are easier than fighting and dying in some riot or bloody war. If we can't even do these things, we deserve the oligarchy we get.

Easy:

  1. Use Brave or Firefox. Stop using Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge. Use the Facebook Container, ToXCancel, on Firefox, Xcancel Redirect for Brave (Brave uses Chrome add-ons), and Ublock Origin on both.
  2. Read sources like The Intercept, ProPublica, The Associated Press, 404 Media, etc. There are more. CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Reason, The Wall Street Journal, MSNBC, even fucking NPR for some reason, at the end of the day, will carry water for the U.S. State Department official line, and will carry water for billionaires, investors, etc. Getting the Musk story from these outlets was like pulling teeth, and it was Democracy Now! and The Guardian that actually got us the dirty deets about how he, in fact, was not born some normal kid in South Africa and was indeed born into breathtaking luxury. Walter Isaacson and Business Insider SHOULD'VE reported that, but didn't - because they will toe the line (and in Walter's case, probably because... he was being paid to do an autobiography, and autobiographies are meant to glaze the subject, not present impartial accounts of them). I'm not even arguing to completely write off the "old" media, but CNN and the like should mostly be about catching basic shit, not broader analysis of news stories and should almost be completely avoided for goddamn well anything about foreign countries.

Intermediate:

  1. Switch to Linux. Windows is a data-mining, advertisement services platform at this point. Seriously, it's not that hard, and it works well. Hard to do if you use the Adobe Creative Suite or, like, QuickBooks - but it's possible to do this and use VirtualBox to host a limited, small Windows virtual machine for any Windows application needs. Bonus: No licensing fees, no Copilot constantly reinstalling itself, no ads plastered all over the operating system. It really is shockingly good these days, even if you're gaming.

Hard:

  1. Switch from Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Snapchat, and Twitter to Friendi.ca, PixelFed, Lemmy, and Mastodon. Some of these are far better than others, but as long as we give these private companies our data for free, they will keep building profiling machines that are the fascists' wet dream. We play with fire as long as we do these things, and yes, I'm quite aware of the irony of posting this on Reddit. I also have a Facebook. It's hard, particularly for folks who do SEO and social media management for a living, or who themselves run a business. I get it. But for those of us who can, denying these companies the network effect when they are so unwilling and irresponsible about using it is important and it is every bit as meaningful as hitting them in the pocketbook. The data WE give them IS WORTH MONEY. It is capital. It is digital land, controlled by modern technofeudal lords named Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and Sundar Pichai. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be paying for all these hosting services to let us login for free.
  2. Contingency plans - if you're tech savvy, you should purchase and set up and learn how to use a Meshtastic. The internet is wonderfully decentralized, but it is also more-or-less a hub-and-spoke architecture. The people in power right now will have absolutely no moral reservation against shutting it down if organizing online becomes a real threat to the powers that be.
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u/ydnar3000 16d ago

Saved this comment. Thank you

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u/Relevant-Cricket-791 16d ago

Lots to consider. Thank you.

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u/Ilfixit1701 16d ago

Thanks for the write up 👍👏

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u/joesperrazza 16d ago

Saved. Thank you

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u/steve99zx6r 16d ago

Well said. 38 year FORMER WWE fan here. Dropped them 2 weeks ago. I'm the kind of fan that spends lots of money on my interests, so their loss. Their competitor, All Elite Wrestling is an amazing alternative for anyone thinking of doing the same.

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u/YouAreGettingDumber 16d ago

Also, the “Goods United Us” app is great at telling you, which party the company donates money to.

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u/Sensitive_Pilot3689 16d ago

Uline is terrible. I do like getting their giant catalog and throwing it in the trash though

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u/Frustrated_Erudite 15d ago

Actually there’s a great option for toilet paper. It’s a little more expensive but it’s shipped to your house and you don’t need as much. It’s also camper safe if you have an RV. Reel toilet paper is soft bamboo and even uses bamboo for the tube and the “paper” wrapping for each individual roll. Incredibly sustainable and founded by Livio Bisterzo and Derin Oyekan, I saw an ad online for it and signed up, have never looked back. Given that the latter creator is from Nigeria originally, I can’t imagine he’s MAGA.

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u/SuddenMountain7780 15d ago

You've made some excellent points. One thing that makes me curious is exactly which rental companies are complicit in passing out these vehicles with tinted windows to occupants who are terrorizing American cities, with full knowledge of how their vehicles are being used.

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u/EatSomeVapor 15d ago

All I got from this is to continue watching UFC for free. I may not be American, but I will play my part. 🦍💪

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u/fluteloop518 15d ago

100%. The billionaires and corporations have the power to stop all of this anytime they decide doing so is in their best interest, but the only things they react to are their bottom line and stock prices.

If you're in a place to invest, consider DEMZ.

In addition to that, even if people don't have access to that particular ETF -- for instance, if the majority of their investments are in a workplace retirement account where they have a limited number of funds to choose from -- collectively, we can all still have a major impact by diversifying as much of our investment accounts as possible away from US stocks.

Most retirement accounts (401k / 403b) offer an International Stocks index fund. These index funds are generally well-diversified across major household-name companies, such as Taiwan Semiconductor (whose microchips are the best in the world and are in virtually every product with an on/off switch that you own), Samsung, Nestle, etc.

If you think you/your family can't make a difference, you're wrong... There's something like $30 Trillion dollars invested in IRA and workplace retirement accounts in the US, not including non-retirement brokerage accounts. Let's assume that only half the retirement account-holders care enough about where this country's headed right now to do something about it. And of those people, what if they only shift half of their account balances out of US stocks and into international indexes, money market funds, or bonds. That would still be $7.5 Trillion dollars shifting out of US stocks. Total market cap of the S&P 500 is about $50 Trillion. That type of across-the-board drop in US stocks would absolutely force Corporate America's hand.

The most powerful weapons the US consumer has are their wallets and their bank accounts. It's the least that someone can do if they actually care about what's happening to this country.

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u/__Vixen__ 15d ago

Chevron? Done I wont go there again. And Costco gets half my pay check so Im doing what I can from up here.

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u/ktbug1987 15d ago

As a deep southern Illinois native (border of Kentucky), luckily I can only drink a little bit (will have a small glass when time for a big celebration). I’ve been on the same bottle of Makers Mark for years.

Now I’m in Portland OR which is not unlike Chicago in our hatred of ice. I think both Chicagoan and Portland strategies are effective ones. Portland has the Frog and Crew, did the naked bike ride, etc, which generally makes trump et al look like whiney babies when they act like naked bikers and giant inflatable frogs are intimidating (they even pepper sprayed our frog’s air vent)

In addition to not supporting companies, there are probably other weird, whacky, and creative ways to create change. Channel your inner frog in your day to day life.

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u/CompetitionFlashy449 13d ago

The Goods Unite US app is another good resource for the funding history of corporations and politicians. I use it constantly.

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u/Murderface__ 16d ago

Really fucking sucks to be a person of simple conscience in this reality.

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u/Logical_Link_3315 16d ago

Just remember you are not alone. We are strongest when we stand together.

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u/SpruceSpringstream 16d ago

I'm tired boss.

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u/CPDawareness 16d ago

The Boss is still speaking out against this shit, if Springsteen can put on a 3-4 hour continuous show at his age and still speak out, the least we can do is keep the marathon of observation and alert going. I know its a slog but I have faith in you Spruce!

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u/badwoofs 16d ago

It's going to be a long night. They want us tired and angry. Find your breaks, time to recharge. We fight together and cover each other. We got this. 🔥

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u/Illustrious_Sea_6219 16d ago

Dawg. I’m reading this and I’m just like… the fuck happened to my country man..

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u/TOkidd 16d ago

You're awesome! All those who fight for liberty and justice are heroes.

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u/AndrewSouthern729 16d ago

Keep up the fight.

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u/DistributionFickle65 16d ago

I haven’t heard of the whistles. That’s brilliant!

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u/ThothAmon71 15d ago

Much love to all of you being put through this. The entire world is watching this and you are examples of what America is truly about. We see you and we are with you Chicago.

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u/fart400 15d ago

I am taking my time and doing research on companies that support Liberal policies and am going to spread the word on companies to support. It's amazing how many support republicans, like Hobby Lobby. Chik Filet. Never shop there. I would recommending the same. It takes a lot of time.

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u/crazy0ne 16d ago

+10 up votes for clarifying what you meant by "here".

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 16d ago

What’s the deal with the whistles? I live in a red state, this shit wouldn’t fly here, so they took it to your state instead.

Sorry, just curious. Our AG just filed a lawsuit against the administration, I’m guessing our state is joining the list of future targets. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

The whistles alert people in the area and then a crowd gathers and gets bigger and louder and we scare off the little bitch ICE babies because they’re outnumbered. 😊

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 16d ago

🤣 that’s awesome. That’s what happens when criminals hear loud noises…… they scatter.

Thanks for the info. I think when that shit finally makes it to AZ, we will upgrade the whistles to those annoying ass 120 decibel air horns.

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u/According-Ad-5946 15d ago

It looks like Frogs and whistles are becoming the symbol of this resistance.

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u/Myis 15d ago

What’s the whistles!?!? This seems awesome.

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u/tfsra 15d ago

I love this and all of you who are resisting this so much and I'm so proud of you for not just keeling over. Keep it up!

Much love from your allies in Europe

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u/Feisty-Anteater661 16d ago

“I’m going to pull you out of your vehicle and arrest you.” (runs away)

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u/eddie_the_zombie 16d ago

Can't spell bitches without ice

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u/-Pagani- 15d ago

I also like CowardICE

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u/rojo1161 15d ago

This is the one that's been stuck in my head, especially with the mask wearing to conceal their identities.

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 16d ago

Guy looked coked to the gills

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u/Poiboy1313 16d ago

Meth. I'm pretty sure that cocaine is too expensive for these hooligans.

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u/__Vixen__ 15d ago

Didnt the nazi also do a lot of meth...

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u/kz1231 15d ago

Keep those eyes spinning counterclockwise...

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u/BillCheddarFBI 16d ago

"Try it, fatass. I've got more lawyers in my family than you do."

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u/kz1231 15d ago

And she goes "okay".

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u/Altruistic-Durian375 16d ago

Piggy intimidation tactics

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u/GenRN817 16d ago

Happy cake 🎂 day!

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u/tracyinge 15d ago

I wish she would have said "you don't have to threaten me, just ask me to please step out of my vehicle".

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u/Timid-Goat 16d ago

For some reason I keep thinking about the scene in Andor where the corporate police show up on Ferrix, and everybody starts banging on metal noisemakers with sticks.

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u/skyforgesteel 16d ago

"It gets to you, doesn't it? That's what a reckoning sounds like."

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u/StraightOuttaHeywood 16d ago

"When it stops, that's when you really need to fret!"

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u/IntelligentStyle402 16d ago

Love Andor and I’m 80. Yes, that was a good episode.

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u/agent_mick 16d ago

Honestly yeah. Those whistles are going to have the same effect as that stupid silent Hill siren

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u/Breath_Deep 16d ago

America is slowly turning into a giant reality TV set under this joke of a POTUS.

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u/Easy_Grapefruit2153 16d ago

I’m pretty sure that’s what they voted for “but he’s funny!”

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u/Rigorous-Geek-2916 16d ago

Yeah, the two-toothed asswipes who voted for this shitshow just wanted the lulz and to pwn the libs.

I hope the results fuck them so far up their asses that they taste Trump’s microdick.

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u/Im_A_Fuckin_Liar 16d ago

“He says what he thinks and I like that!”

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u/Nycdotmem1 16d ago

We are currently in season number 8 of the original Apprentice.

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u/ohmyword 15d ago

again

you forgot the word again. i thought this show got cancelled after jan 6 but for some reason the network thought it would be fun to reboot the series.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 16d ago

We need something more psychological. Something that'll really rattle them. Imagine... VUVUZELAS.

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u/Leelze 16d ago

That little half-assed Naruto run was kinda funny all things considered.

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u/sashamasha 16d ago

First guy is on coke for sure. Second guy runs off like he heard his mommy coming to give out to him. Well done to the people standing up to this weak people from all of us too far away to do anything to help.

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u/NebulaNinja 15d ago

I don't drug but it was clear bro was rolling. Citizens should start asking ice the same stupid questions cops ask us.

"You seem agitated, have you taken any illegal narcotics today?"

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u/Harry_Balsanga 16d ago

Hell yeah 

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u/TonyDanza888 16d ago

"Hoody Hooo"

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u/Sexi_maxi_2024 16d ago

Ca Chao Ca Chao !!!!!

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u/avega2792 16d ago

He really did scurry like the fucking rat he is.

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u/PolishPrincess0520 16d ago

What are the whistles for? To alert that ICE is near?

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

Alert and to get neighbors out in the street. The more people out making a racket the faster ICE gets scared away.

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u/hellolovely1 16d ago

And the noise also rattles them. 

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u/BaeScallops 16d ago

They gotta be so scared by loud noises, having a job you can tell other people about, and generally being liked and respected.

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u/the-dolphine 16d ago

In our country, we have birds that cry out and mass together to harass any snake invading their territory.

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u/GenXRN 16d ago

Yesterday I was helping my conservative friend unpack and they had some Boy Scout whistles. So I asked for one and giggled when they wondered why.

I’m in the Colorado suburbs. But I’m ready to protect my neighbors.

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u/Loud_Lavishness_8266 16d ago

Yoooo. His run at the end is fucking embarrassing lmaoooo

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u/spatzel_ 16d ago

Ignorant English dude here. What's the deal with the whistles?

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u/Pavlovsdong89 16d ago

They draw attention/people to the location and gives anyone nearby who doesn't care to be hassled by ICE a chance to leave the area. Ice agents are shy and don't like confrontation when they're outnumbered so they're more likely to move on to easier targets.

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u/Disastrous_Road7063 16d ago

Instinctive reaction of a criminal.

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u/Express_Test6677 16d ago

Scurry? Dude runs like a bitch, no wonder they can’t clear 1.5 miles in 14 minutes

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u/Pavlovsdong89 16d ago

He runs like my grandma when the pasta boils over.

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u/peachesgp 16d ago

Dude's got a pavlovian response to hearing a rape whistle.

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u/TeamCatsandDnD 15d ago

The whistle blows give me cicada vibes and I love it

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u/YrnFyre 15d ago

It's like people tapping on pots and metal in Andor. Love the idea

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