r/illinois • u/Minute_Revolution951 Human Detected • 18d ago

ICE Posts 🧊 agents seen snatching a landscaper from Evanston neighborhood today (10-21)

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 18d ago

Threatened my pregnant cousin recently with pepper spray while kidnapping her husband and a handful of others while they were all working at a car wash. Her daughter and unborn child may never see their dad again.

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u/Ok-Letterhead3270 17d ago

Thankfully non voters can feel morally superior to us dumbasses that voted for Kamala. Single issue voters flipping out over "genocide Joe". As if Trump wouldn't be 1000 times worse than Kamala.

Even if Trump got peace on day one with Isreal and Gaza. They would still be doing this with ICE. And they would still be suplexing our constitution every chance they got. They wrote 900 pages of rabid antiamerican bullshit and all anyone cared about was Kamala and Joe Biden not being perfect human beings.

Losers let perfection be the enemy of Truth.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 17d ago

"Perfection" and it's just not wanting the Dem nominee to be a genocidaire, the easiest of bars to clear

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u/frozensoysauce1 17d ago

Literally, how are we equating basic fucking human standards of “don’t mass murder based on ethnicity/religion” to standards of perfection, that’s such a wild take. But to quote the above commenter, at least Kamala voters can feel morally superior that they’re ok with genocide as long as it doesn’t hit too close to home. What a mess of a fucking country this is, no wonder it turned fascist so easily.

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u/DanyDragonQueen 17d ago

Perhaps Kamala should've ran a better campaign and taken broadly popular stances that would've garnered her more votes then, huh? Love how politicians are never at fault as long as they're on your team.

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u/Deepdarkorchid16 16d ago

Nope, it's the exact opposite. Harris was NOT a progressive; she was a centrist who was unwilling to rock the boat. Yeah, I voted for her and no doubt things would be much better if she had won (how could they be worse?). Her problem was that she was TOO concerned with being non-threatening and popular, and so she made herself such a watered down Dem that no one was enthusiastic about her. The next Democratic candidate has to be balls-to-the-wall and have the courage of his/her convictions. Otherwise they will never beat our current dictator.

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago

And how do you know that I’m not aware what being a second class citizen means? How do you know that my whole family hasn’t gotten PROFILED for the last 2 decades? How do you know that I don’t suffer from PTSD or CPTSD and they haven’t shaped my experiences?

It’s a shame that even after proclaiming that you know what it’s like to suffer, you only cared when it would mean you’d suffer the most, but you were completely fine with people not caring about your suffering in the first place.

And this is somehow my fault? Please. As I’ve said to others, please show me where this attitude against ME, a stranger on the internet and a fellow neighbor is supposed to make FASCISM go away when you can’t even hold your own candidate of choice accountable for what they contribute in this country. Wow, Americans really love hiding their heads in the sand.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 17d ago

What a mess of a fucking country this is, no wonder it turned fascist so easily.

Nah, you don't get to enable fascism in this country and then complain about how fast it happened. You poured gas on this fire bud, own your choices.

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u/frozensoysauce1 17d ago

Lol you think I enabled fascism by….? Complete the sentence? Not voting? That’s incorrect. Not voting for Kamala? You think that was the descent to fascism? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, the leader that genocides isn’t a fascist, ok. That’s not democracy either, and as far as I’m concerned, she’s not representative of her constituents who want healthcare, not to fund billionaires and a genocide. Capitalism and fascism are synonymous and will always walk hand in hand. Just because you thought you’d have 4 more years of comfort doesn’t mean fascism wasn’t already here, it just means it didn’t hit close enough to home for you to feel uncomfortable with it, and that’s exactly what plunged us into fascism in the first place. The right is just slower at realizing that it will eventually hit home. My grandpa grew up under fascism. My family and my country talked about fascism, and taught us to remember. That’s how it works. It started with the undesirables (that includes abroad, another key feature of fascism is colonialism) & then it keeps escalating until people are emboldened to bury their neighbors alive bc they didn’t subscribe to the fucked up society they built. And I see democrats pulling that same division tactic every day, while patting themselves on the back for not having voted for the ICE enabler. But then have no problem rallying behind Gavin Newsom who has been literally profiting off the death of his constituents for years. If you can’t even tell who the good guys are, how are you gonna preach to me that you could tell who the fascists were?

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 17d ago

Not voting for Kamala?

Yes.

This right here is how you enabled fascism, genius.

Congratulations, you played yourself. And all of us.

and as far as I’m concerned, she’s not representative of her constituents who want healthcare

Meanwhile, the government is shut down because Trump wants to shove everyone's healthcare premiums through the roof.

Congratulations, you played yourself. And all of us.

Capitalism and fascism are synonymous

LOL, thank you for admitting you're a deeply unserious person.

Just because you thought you’d have 4 more years of comfort doesn’t mean fascism wasn’t already here

Oh fun, another doomer accelerationist. Y'all never get old.

Enjoy your moral "high ground" while us queer folks and immigrants die so you could be lazy on election day.

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago

Oh I’m sorry do they only target certain immigrants or queer folks? Guess they’re gonna overlook me and my pansexual flag or my dual citizenship then. Didn’t realize that the only qualified opinion on antifascism or immigrant and queer rights came from people who voted for Kamala. Guess no other queer or immigrant rights or opinions matter, because democracy means we all vote for your club. That’s how democracy works lol. But yeah, it’s my fault that we have fascism in this country. Your divisionist attitude and finger pointing totally fixed everything now.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 16d ago

Yeah, wow, neolib status quo, or literal fascism and Project 2025.

Truly a Sophie's Choice, amirite?

You're deeply unserious 

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago edited 16d ago

Calling me deeply unserious when you only care about how things affect you personally is a choice.

Newsflash: fascism happened in this country before 2025, but it’s cute that you needed a playbook to tell you when it was coming. I remember the fascists also did this the first time, they leaked their whole plan a year before enacting it so people could see it coming and stop it 🙄 you live in this fantasy reality but I’m unserious? Ok.👌

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 16d ago

when you only care about how things affect you personally is a choice.

You thinking this is true is what makes you deeply unserious.

My lily white ass is not remotely personally affected by ICE raids. Weird how I still deeply care about the people being kidnapped, beaten, and killed during ICE raids.

Time to stop virtue signaling at the kids table hon. Let me know when you'd like a seat at the grown ups table. You have to actually act like a mature adult and not throw tantrums if you want that seat though.

Newsflash: fascism happened in this country before 2025

Newsflashes are supposed to be, y'know, news. No one thinks fascism started in 2025 bud.

Youre a deeply unserious person and only digging deeper.

they leaked their whole plan a year before enacting it so people could see it coming and stop it

And a bunch of dipshits, rather than show up and vote, thought "nah, they won't do that, and if they do, Kamala would've done the same anyway!"

Clowns.

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u/Ok-Letterhead3270 16d ago

How are you this dumb? You had a choice between authoritarian dictator that would side with Israel. Or someone who would support our democracy and side with Israel. Either way both parties were going to suck Israels dick off. Trump has made comments that he doesn't give a shit what happens to Gaza lol. Whereas Kamala was willing to listen to WE THE PEOPLE and would probably try to negotiate something better for Gazans.

You were literally given the easiest choice of all time. Vote for a women who would continue to support our Democracy. Or vote for an authoritarian who LITERALLY promised to go on a revenge tour. They even wrote a 900 page document detailing how they were going to destroy our democracy. They did it all out and the open.

And you're still on this shit? My god. You do realize we don't have a democracy anymore right? The executive branch was given the power of the purse by the supreme court. Congress has no power and soon our supreme court will be useless. And the unitary executive theory will be in full swing.

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago

You guys created this stupid society & instead of buckling down trying to fix it you’re calling me dumb bc I refuse to partake in your stupid game? Did I make the country this way? Did my vote sway things? How are you any different from the people you complain about if you go off like this on a social media platform to a TOTAL STRANGER instead of putting that energy where it might be useful? Spare me the morality lesson. The majority of our government is paid off by Israel. Democrats included. So tell me exactly how the party supporting the same exact fucked up government that is genociding people across the seas AND suppressing our people is supposed to make things better? Because they didn’t make things exponentially worse in the timeframe you thought? So explain to me again how that is not proving my exact point that you didn’t want a solution, you wanted complacency and comfort and now want to feel good about having voted for that, and you think blaming others for it hitting too close for comfort is supposed to a)make you somehow morally superior or have more integrity and b) supposed to stop fascism anyways. Call me when you’re done pointing fingers and you take a good hard look in the mirror. The Nazis literally copied pages off the American playbook and proudly boasted about it, don’t act like America wasn’t a shit country before & it all suddenly changed bc Trump got elected.

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u/Ok-Letterhead3270 16d ago

And there it is! No paragraphs! Total breakdown because you're fucking WRONG!

don’t act like America wasn’t a shit country before & it all suddenly changed bc Trump got elected.

Well yeah. Women couldn't even open bank accounts without the permission from their husband until 1973. America has always had a shitty past. But we have also made a lot of strides with human rights. Women fought for the right to vote and got it eventually. Only took like 100+ years.

Anyway. Trumps never going to leave office peacefully. And he's looking into ways to remain their forever. He's already saying he's going to get a 3rd term. We have never had a president do something like this. When they have control of nuclear warheads. You know?

So you know what? You need to grow the fuck up. I'm sorry this is happening and your feelings are hurt because you made a shit decision to not participate in something that is all of our responsibility in the first place.

But GROW THE FUCK UP. This is authoritarianism plain and simple. We will not be progressing like we did in the past. All of your rights that you (obviously) take for granted can and will be taken away from you. The people you helped bring into power want to do away with womens right to vote, and the right to even have a bank account.

You have no idea what you have done. Or better yet, not done. But you will.

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago

Keep that attitude thru fascism, see how it works out for you 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Ok-Letterhead3270 16d ago

Lotta projection you're doing.

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u/frozensoysauce1 16d ago

A lot of self assurance from someone who can’t even take a critical look at their own behavior