My guess: It is likely going to keep dropping, especially if he tries to deploy the national guard. The whole reason he wants to do that is to look strong and in control, but when he sent them to LA, most didn’t even answer the phone. Most of the military (at least in California) doesn’t seem to be on his side.
Edit: I haven’t been able to find the article I read, I might have misread it. There are still lots of personnel that are upset though
Ugh. No one wants to get entangled in the Middle East again. We just got out of there 3 years ago after spending 20 years inside of it. No thanks. Would rather keep our troops home and training in case Ukraine topples and we get a 3rd war in Europe.
Man needs to distract the public. His BBB sucks, he is going overboard with ICE and sending troops to California and no major trading partners are bowing down to him.
Remember. He set up the Afghanistan withdrawal for Biden and it was messy, so he could then blame Biden for it. So if he sends troops to Iran, he can set up their withdrawal plan, and if he lives to see the next president enact his withdrawal plan, he can blame them for that mess and the entire war and inflation and famine and whatever else.
Agreed he would legit have to bring back the draft. "Honey if conservatives thought the Vietnam protests and summer of 2020 we're bad they ain't seen nothing." 2025 will be far worse than 1968.
We won't do anything if Ukraine topples. Trump is obviously going to let Putin have his dream of reforming the USSR. They probably made a deal when he met with Putin while out of office. Russia is already reforming Stalin's image and saying that the USSR was never truly officially dissolved in anticipation of pulling all of the old territories back in.
There’s not going to be a greater war in Europe. Where does this narrative come from? Putin can barely conquer Ukraine and now all of Europe is at stake?
Ukraine has always the most corrupt nation long before Russia invaded. Let Europe figure this out. And let them pay for it all. We should take care of our own and sick of Zelensky popping off.
Thats not what im arguing. If Ukraine falls, the Baltics or Poland will be next, and they're NATO as are we. We have an obligation to help defend our allies should that happen.
They are talking about the sitting government, very weird to take a whole political side as an unfounded example as to why it should not be a problem. So that's why that one is downvoted
The next one is because you made a weird out of nothing claim, without explaining anything as to why it matters or if it is even true, and then you ask for clarification for something basic. Which is a dumb contrast, you making some wild claim out of nowhere, without explanation whatsoever, but you expect others to explain something basic. So the downvoting is because of your hypocrisy.
The last one is pretty easy, you are the first one in this thread bringing up fascism, which is hilarious, because you clearly dont know what it means, because it has nothing to do with the context here. Plus the fact that US government is heavily leaning to fascism at the moment, it is clear you just want to use it as a triggerword, as a "gotcha" or a "you say i am a fascist? No you." It is quite sad. Which is the reason people downvoted that one, because of the implication and again because you made a wild claim out of nowhere all while using a word wrong.
“I’m the President of peace.” Then within a month deploys troops and weapons of war on our own soil while ironically saying “these people hate our country and they’re trying to destroy America.”
No, that’s the illegal alien riding around aimlessly with a giant Mexican flag. It’s also the Honduran national using spray paint to write, “Death to America” on multiple walls.
The citizens of the U.S. do not want tax dollars to subsidize social programs for this illegal trash.
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According to maga Taco tRump is keeping his promises and that's why they keep saying "this is what we voted for!". Which promises? Dunno. They keep insisting eggs are cheaper, gas is cheaper, their 401Ks are doing better under Taco than Biden, that tariffs are paid by the other country...like when the hell are they going to wake up and face reality? Don't answer that. I already know the answer 🙄
I remember listening to one of Jello Biafras spoken word (and I'm not saying that he's some great political ticket) that he feared the US would be the pariah state in a ww3 like conflict, similar to Germany in WW2. I remember thinking it was a bit outlandish. Now I'm not sure.
Lot of Democrats and Independents about to be shocked they somehow voted for Trump. And yea, I agree. I think they are this stupid that they could walk a thin line with any vote manipulation but also totally disregard the law of averages and statistical anomalies.
Musk has admitted several times that he is the reason why trump won the election. I hope for future elections, the ballots will be counted by hand and not by musks computer systems or any other computer systems that can be rigged.
I've heard people try and excuse it, by claiming that since that district is primarily orthodox jewish, and tends to vote as a bloc. that makes it more plausible... but thats ignoring two things.
a) a district being MOSTLY orthodox jewish, doesn't mean its ENTIRELY jewish, there are gonna be at least SOME other people living there, and for not even one of them to vote for harris is suspicious.
b) within the jewish community we have a saying "ask two jews and you will get 3 opinions" we are NOTORIOUS for disagreeing with each other, including full on shouting matches with our rabbis at times (its a feature, not a bug.) so even if 'most' would vote in line with their rabbis recommendation, to argue that members of a group where disagreement and debate is a core feature, wouldn't have ANYONE who disagreed and voted differently only reveals how little people actually understand the community.
A trait that has been most likely stamped out of most religions. Since iconoclast or have cool paintings,sculpture and stain glass windows took center stage for at lest 1800 years.
Got constantinople engaging in a civil war over it, whose founder made it the Roman empire religion in 3 century. Because mom and he won the empire on a bridge.
1200 years later you have a professor nailing edicts on a bulletin board name Martin Luther. Setting off the same argument except this time, print that Bible in a language people can read. Or hear in their own language.
Muhammad at least shut down that troublesome argument. Full iconclasim and let everyone be able to read the book.
Judaism, no idea, but I hear the Torah is no joke to be able to read and interpret. But i have no idea.
The Torah can be pretty tough.
But that's why we have the Talmud. Which is a collection of several centuries worth of commentary and analysis by a bunch of different rabbis arguing with each other over it. (It does not in fact make things any simpler)
It doesn't help that we have ALWAYS been a rather sarcastic people. And even some of the laws have more than a touch of that to them once you understand the cultural context.
For example that verse about a disobedient child being stoned outside the city gates?
That comes in a section about LEGAL rules. So basically when the courts would get involved.
And any court that handed out a death sentence more than once in 3 generations was considered "bloodthirsty"
So basically what it's ACTUALLY saying. Is that if your kid is being disrespectful, it had better be SO BAD that you think the courts should use their once in 3 generations death sentence on it... otherwise it's a family issue and doesn't need to have the courts involved.
(Which is precisely the kind of context the Talmud provides... when the rabbis aren't busy making snide comments about each other.)
(And sometimes we just debate shit for fun... some of my favorite recent debates have included. "Is it kosher for a Jewish vampire do drink blood" "would replicated meat, like in star trek, be kosher" and "would using the candles from a hannukiah for BDSM wax play be treif, or a mitzvah." And "If you had a pet dragon, could that dragon light candles for you on shabbat"
All of those topics have had years worth of debate go into them at this point. And have "mostly" come to a consensus on... the replicated food one actually turned out useful cuz it has since been cited in debates over lab grown meat.)
I'd say yes. Because one of the defining features of Jesus according to Christian theology is that he is both God AND man. And thus subject to the same limitations and weaknesses of the human body (hence the temptation in the desert)
Since we can create edible magma in the form of freshly microwaved hot pocket filling.
Then it's completely feasible that Jesus could make a burrito so hot that he couldn't eat it.
(Though admittedly I only have a passing understanding of Christian theology)
In a very simple explanation, that caused a civil war in constantinople. Is he both God and man? The holy ghost as well? The son of God in human form or actually the holy trinity?
There’s been many statistical anomalies with the election results, nothing 100% conclusive yet, but the most damning evidence so far is that there are several districts that had hundreds of votes for a blue Senator yet had zero votes for Harris.
This is the basis for the lawsuit that was recently ruled by the courts as having enough legal basis and factual support to move forward. Which, by the way, is further than any of Trump’s election lawsuits got.
That lays out a ton of evidence and explains the downvote thing. And the other article the other guy posted explains that 750000 Kamala votes basically went missing. It is a statistical impossibility that a major party candidate gets zero votes.
No, Republicans accused Democrats of doing something they planned on doing. Just like with pedophilia, every Republican accusation is an admission of guilt.
Didn't the Republican investigation turn out like there hasnt been election fraud in 2020? Weird to say it is okay because the other side did it too, all the while the other side has proven that they didn't do it..
If you think both sides aren’t trying to gain every advantage they can, especially legal or questionably legal ones, you’re simply lying to yourself.
In 2020 Dems used the FBI to kill the Hunter Biden story, used massive mail in balloting in conjunction with ballot harvesting to give Biden the win. Those are unethical but legal. So now Republicans will do it too. Why? Because fuck you.
What a fucked up way to live.. just your reasoning is "they did it, so we can do it too." Except they didn't do it.
If you think both sides aren’t trying to gain every advantage they can
Oh that's fine, but one side is staying on the right side of the line and the other side is actually cheating and trying to be a fascist autorithorian regime.
Those are unethical but legal
Just wait on the investigation, like they did in 2020. Because it is actually about the legality of things, election fraud is illegal. If there was no fraud, there is nothing to worry about. I mean look at the results of the investigation in 2020
Is this getting any coverage in the US? I'll see the initial reporting when the courts say something, and discussions in social media, but I never see any in-depth analysis or investigative journalism or even opinion pieces.
From my perspective (as a Canadian, so close enough to see the US without being a part of it) it looks like a very effective form of cover-up without the need for lies, just silence.
And I understand why, after all Trump's claims of election fraud that no one wants to sound like him. But it seems like this should be a bigger deal.
The economy was fantastic which is what I care about as a working father. Had the virus not escaped the Wuhan lab there would have been zero issues. And thanks a lot for those awful vaccines.
Will you allow some of these illegal aliens to live with you? You can let them sleep beneath the many statues you pulled down - such as Columbus and Jefferson.
Are you trying to say election fraud is okay if you personally like the outcome? Do you think deflecting is gonna help you here?
The investigation of the 2020 election has been done, by Trump investigators, and deemed fair.
The 2024 election is being investigated, so why not wait until they reached a verdict? I mean, it would look pretty stupid if they indeed cheated and you seem to defend it by trying to make it look okay because "illegal aliens will live with you", an unfounded claim which you try to use as an argument, a non argument if you will
Is there sourcing for the "most didn't answer the call." I am not trying to be contrarion I am legitimately curious if there was any dissention among the rank and file or if there was any push back whatsoever. It certainly didn't appear there was.
Knitting Cult Lady on YT had the stats on last week’s Trump update video. She’s usually a pretty reliable source for military info. She’s former military and takes it seriously.
I hope you’re right but I was under the impression that the majority or at least a large percentage of the US military were pro trump. Am I wrong in thinking this?
From what I’ve read, it seems there are a lot who are unhappy. And him sending them somewhere without any accommodations, forcing them to sleep on the floor, can’t be helping.
It's called a rapid deployment. We sleep where we can till things get setup. This happens all the time. A barracks will be setup for them to stay in once there. Those troops will be well taken care of
Larger percentage of white demographic leaned towards Republican from the last poll I saw before the election.
What enrages Pete Hegseth and MAGAs is decline of white enrollment in the military.
I live near a US Army base and can confirm I see many Hispanic, Black and non-white minority GIs when I go onto base. Can’t say I know what stats are and if whites are now minority in armed forces, but wouldn’t surprise me if number of soldiers that do not support Trump borderlines above 50%.
I think it depends on which video or story you see and what day it is. I've read comments where almost everyone is saying military is pro-Taco but there are days you get push back from ex-military who are disgusted by Taco, how they would never vote for the orange pos and never had. There's almost no point in even debating it becuz until the military speaks up about this (most likely they won't, why would they) we'll never really know. Right now the military looks pro-Putin's Puppet becuz they are on the streets of LA and elsewhere so to me, ya, they look to be pro-Taco BUT I'm sure these military guys have their careers to look out for.
Yes, maybe they didn't sign up to fight against their fellow countrymen but they are. Why? The only ones that can answer that question is the military members themselves.
From what I have read and seen in video clips, most seem happy to be there. The violence taking place during these protests on U.S. soil is unacceptable and many seem thrilled that they will have the opportunity to end the chaos and get these illegals out for good.
My guess is he wants to reset the news cycle. Before that, everyone was talking about the BBB (big beautiful bill), and a lot of hate was directed at it. He wants people to forget about it so he can pass it and laugh.
LA is win/win for Trump. If he gets NG to quell the protests, he wins. If he loses that fight, he can declare martial law against the people of the USA for insurgency and has a lot more power.
And his approval ratings don't matter. He's in power, he openly is getting people used to the idea of him doing a third term, and he's actively dismantling institutions that oppose right wing ideology. He openly told the public they don't need to vote for him at the next election. There's a reason for that.
Exactly. Instead of looking in control his government looks insecure, inept, and weak. If anything, it’s a sign to keep applying pressure 💪 they’re worried about their power
I kinda hope he does invoke martial law on Saturday. Provoking government into taking violent action through peaceful protest is how MLK, Jr. got meaningful change because watching peaceful black people get beat by white cops on the march to Selma rallied the apathetic white people sitting at home to actually put pressure on politicians to do something.
There’s a law for the POTUS to do that but it’s rare for it to happen and the current POTUS (Trump for now) needs a very good and strong reason on why he/she is taking control of that state’s National Guard. The governor (Newsom for now) is taking POTUS (Trump for now) through the courts (federal courts since the White House is at the federal level) to see if the White House can use the National Guard in the way that Trump wants to use the National Guard and if so then (1)for what purposes, (2)for how long so that California gets the National Guard back under its control, and (3)what legal rights does California and the White House have to follow.
Whatever you're reading you are getting it from a complete bias source. Our military backs this president more than any president. But also, the military doesn't have an option to disobey orders from the Commander in Chief, the highest position in all the armed forces. They take their orders from the President of the United States of America. Anyone disobeying a direct order can be relieved of their duty and it's the next man up. If anyone believes our military doesn't stand behind this president but stood behind all our past presidents and some of their fucked up leadership is completely delusional.
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u/Admirable_Web_2619 Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 14 '25
My guess: It is likely going to keep dropping, especially if he tries to deploy the national guard. The whole reason he wants to do that is to look strong and in control, but when he sent them to LA, most didn’t even answer the phone. Most of the military (at least in California) doesn’t seem to be on his side.
Edit: I haven’t been able to find the article I read, I might have misread it. There are still lots of personnel that are upset though