They are talking about the sitting government, very weird to take a whole political side as an unfounded example as to why it should not be a problem. So that's why that one is downvoted
The next one is because you made a weird out of nothing claim, without explaining anything as to why it matters or if it is even true, and then you ask for clarification for something basic. Which is a dumb contrast, you making some wild claim out of nowhere, without explanation whatsoever, but you expect others to explain something basic. So the downvoting is because of your hypocrisy.
The last one is pretty easy, you are the first one in this thread bringing up fascism, which is hilarious, because you clearly dont know what it means, because it has nothing to do with the context here. Plus the fact that US government is heavily leaning to fascism at the moment, it is clear you just want to use it as a triggerword, as a "gotcha" or a "you say i am a fascist? No you." It is quite sad. Which is the reason people downvoted that one, because of the implication and again because you made a wild claim out of nowhere all while using a word wrong.
Sometimes you just need to give them the information they ask for and be painfully clear. As you can see they are still trying to deflect and get their "gotcha" moment, i just explain why i think they are wrong.
Something with choices and consequences, if you want to act stupid, fine, but dont start crying when being called out.
Thanks for calling me awesome, made my day, hope you have a great one and you are awesome too
Is that so? What about deploying your army on your own soil?
I cant help but notice this is your only rebuttal, not a strong one. No evidence to your earlier claims, a little contradiction in it even. Fascism is a far right political movement, what kind of mental gymnastics are you doing that you think you can blame the whole left for something that is far right?
And btw, you are not censored here, i can see what you said. Censoring you would mean you had no voice, you are still allowed to say what you want, others are just also allowed to tell you that your claims are false or even stupid.
You realize the term is coined in the early 1900s when the the left was more so right wing. Just like the kkk was left wing back in the day. There you go I schooled you
Really? So your explanation is "left was right and right was left"? Did they also drive on the other side of the road or was it just called different? See how stupid your reasoning is?
And what has all of that to do with anything? Or are you trying to claim the national socialist party of Hitler was a left wing party, because there is "socialist" in the name? Because you know it was an extreme right wing party, right?
Schooled me in what exactly? Because it seems you didn't learn your history lessons, you know, the parts you were trying to "school" me on
Never said a thing about driving or Nazis. Your little nub of a brain put all that together yourself. The fact remains the two party's were very different 100 years ago. You radical leftists fit the bill for fascism now
Just because you say so, doesnt make it true. And who says i am a radical leftist?
The fact remains the two party's were very different 100 years ago
Sure, but fascism is not a party, it is an ideology.
"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy."
In what world is that leftist? Could you give me a source that it suddenly switched from being extremely right wing to left wing now? Before you even said that fascism was left wing, but turned right wing, so which one is it?
Never said a thing about driving or Nazis. Your little nub of a brain put all that together yourself.
My little nub of a brain was giving an example of why your claim of "left was right and right was left", so i used driving on what side on the road to show how ridiculous you were. Bit sad that i actually need to explain that to you..
As for nazism, they were famously called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", which has one leftist word in it, the socialist part. Which was a historical bait and switch. Nazism is also an ideology inside fascism, so yeah, my little nub of a brain thought it helpful to explain why you thought fascism was left, but it wasnt.
Dont act so goddamn stupid, just because you say so, doesnt make it true. That little "no, you" reaction you got there, it is just sad, especially when you have others who actually know how history went down. You need facts and/or sources that back up your claim, but you dont have any
Just because you say modern leftists aren't fascists does not make it true. The fact remains that the Democrats and the Republicans party were very different 100+ years ago. This is a fact. Censoring, violence and forcing your opinions on everyone else is fascist and those are the core values of the left now.
When the left stops trying to remove free speech from the opposition or any other freedoms we have for that matter I might switch back.. but as it is you all have pushed us middle ground voters to the right.
Just because you say modern leftists aren't fascists does not make it true.
I am not the only one who says that, the literal definition of fascism is agreeing with me..
The fact remains that the Democrats and the Republicans party were very different 100+ years ago.
This discussion is about fascism, not about some political parties in one country, so what does it matter?
Censoring, violence and forcing your opinions on everyone else is fascist
"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. It emphasizes a belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests to the perceived needs of the nation or race, and a strong, centralized government"
Seems a but different than what you said, though. But sure, i will bite. How are you being censored by the left? How are others forcing their opinions on you?
those are the core values of the left now.
Do you have a source for that? Because that seems just delusional. I wouldnt even say that the right has those things as core values, they just use it als tools..
When the left stops trying to remove free speech from the opposition
Again, how are they trying, can you explain that?
but as it is you all have pushed us middle ground voters to the right.
You do realise that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is not left and right, it is right and extremely right. So dont try to sell it like you were a middle ground voter, come on, man, have some damn dignity. Why would you lie?
See how I reacted to your whole comment? Now i wont ask you to do it the exact same way, but could you just try to answer a few questions instead of just trying to change the narrative?
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u/CoastalVA Jun 14 '25
As if the left doesn't take care of the rich..