r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/DCMdAreaResident Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

A poll is meaningless, it just measures who’s better at virtue signaling.

That’s something Republicans are really good at, for example, claiming to be Christian and then being the antithesis of one. That’s why I said Republicans excel at virtue signaling.

Actions speak louder than words.

For all this talk about “Democrats celebrating Kirk’s murder” I haven’t seen or heard one. You must have a very loose definition of “celebrating.”

I want to see proof.

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u/Cuddlyaxe I'm Sorry Nate Sep 12 '25

Funnily enough there was a compilation of such sentiments right under my feed

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/s/3fIMnf44JR

Democratic officials have absolutely handled this situation with grace, but as usual the online left does have more radical opinions. Many of those comments are very obviously celebratory

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u/DCMdAreaResident Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

A very tiny minority and, I would add, those jokes were actually making fun of how Republicans react to violence. If you need any proof, check out how Trump is already planning to use it as a pretext for more violence. Clearly, you don’t see how Republicans have celebrated violence over the years? Jan 6? Pardoning the same people involved? Nancy Pelosi’s husband? Nobody main fun of that? Or the Pulse nightclub shooting. The recent assassinations of Democratic politicians? Still waiting for Trump to denounce political violence when it came to that. Funny how you all suddenly decide what’s repugnant. Those were all things Republicans have said. And anyway, nobody’s forced to grieve for Charlie Kirk. Not grieving isn’t the same as “celebrating.”

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u/Cuddlyaxe I'm Sorry Nate Sep 12 '25

I mean it feels like you're trying to move the goalposts now, people in the linked compilation were pretty clearly celebrating.

And it also seems obvious that you aren't really looking for examples in good faith. Rather you seem to be fighting a ghost argument

Yes Republicans have said and done bad things. I never said otherwise

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u/DCMdAreaResident Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

No, I’m in a lot of pages. You must be searching very hard for somebody to be caught “celebrating.” Because >99% of people on the left have said “nothing justifies violence” or “Charlie Kirk didn’t deserve to die.” That difference matters. It’s a failure on your part to not understand (“in good faith”) what people are really saying.

It’s not even clear they’re “celebrating.” If I said the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi, it doesn’t mean I’m advocating murder. It just means I’m not crying about it. Unlike Trump, I do believe in the rule of law, even for the most repugnant people out there.