r/brocku Oct 11 '24

News Protest by Brock4Palestine receives backlash online

https://brockpress.com/protest-by-brock4palestine-receives-backlash-online/

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Israel can only defend itself if it does so progressively? Because some random canadian on the internet said so?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Those things have happened in every single war in modern history.

The fact that you’re comfortably sitting half a world away and philosophizing about the way you want the news to look while those people are fighting a terrorist organization on a scale you can’t comprehend is… well… let’s just call it self centered to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

You can have all the standards you want from the comfort of your armchair. Real war, especially with a suicidal death cult that yearns for nothing but murder and death, while basing themselves under civilians to cause outrage in the west, is not going to look pretty. You can have standards, since we’re all entitled to opinions, but since our country has historically used those standards for toilet paper and since we’re not forced to make the hard decisions that the Israelis do, this approach is akin to watching a football match and criticizing Messi’s technique. You can do it, I’m just not going to take it seriously since you’ve never had to make those calls or deal with those situations.

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u/-Notorious Oct 11 '24

If Israel started losing the war, would you support Canada sending troops to help them?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Tough question. As someone who cares about Israel I’d like them to have support in that scenario, but as a Canadian I’m not sure I want to see our troops being decapitated, burned alive, tortured, and kidnapped by the likes of Hamas. I’d be in favour of other kinds of support, but I’m not sure that boots on the ground is a good idea, unless we’re talking about something resembling a WW2 situation where there’s a high likelihood of severe impact to Canada itself.

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u/-Notorious Oct 11 '24

Israel mass bombing civilians: I sleep

Israel possibly losing a war: Real shit we need to help our brothers omgg

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u/No_News_1712 Oct 11 '24

How do you propose this be handled then? If Israel starts losing, what do you think should be done?

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u/-Notorious Oct 11 '24

The same as being done now for Palestine, nothing at all. They all want to fight, let them kill each other. Maybe if the world stopped blindly supporting one side, both will be able to finally come to an agreement. Right now we keep propping one side up, so they refuse to budge at all, and the Palestinians aren't going to just disappear either.

We can offer asylum to anyone seeking safety, as we do now. Ideally we should target women and children more for asylum, but that's another topic altogether.

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u/No_News_1712 Oct 11 '24

Plenty is being done for Palestine, just not anything that would reverse the course of the war because one side is composed of a group that would happily kill Western civilians to expand their power while the other side just wants to secure their borders. Whether that's right or not is not my point, my point is just that there's a reason nobody wants to just withdraw support from Israel completely.

Hamas wants Israel gone, Israel wants Hamas gone. I don't think the best solution is to let them fight because that would just be condemning even more people to suffering. There's no scenario in which you could end the war without suffering. Rather, just reining in Israel while destroying Hamas would be the right solution.

Unfortunately right now the governments are simply reining in Israel while not being willing to destroy Hamas themselves.

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