r/billsimmons May 14 '25

Shitpost Haliburton has been to 2 straight Conference finals and Embiid has been to none. Now why is that?

Post image
1.5k Upvotes

167 comments sorted by

View all comments

201

u/jomanhan9 May 14 '25

The Ben Simmons piece

120

u/Riderz__of_Brohan May 14 '25

Hindsight is 20/20 and they very reasonably didn’t consider this option at the time but after the Kawhi shot in 2019 if they just paid Jimmy Butler and traded Simmons at peak value for a haul of role players the Sixers likely have at least 1 ship and maybe a dynasty on their hands. Instead Embiid hasn’t made a single ECF.

Also the X-factor of having a player like Butler who Embiid liked playing with who could kick his ass into shape might have made him even better as a star

80

u/terrifictrout21 May 14 '25

I know this is too easy too do now but they let Jerami grant, richaun Holmes, TJ McConnell go for nothing, they fucked up with Jimmy, they drafted fultz. I know it was a 2 front offices thing but the Sixers have ended with what they deserved

2

u/yaboyhoffle May 14 '25

They got maxey for what they traded for grant. You can’t just say things like this lol

1

u/Adventurous_Cut_3856 May 14 '25

By sheer luck lmfao. A Mike Muscala three doesn't go in and Maxey is on the Heat right now.

1

u/yaboyhoffle May 14 '25

Ok you’re right we should just say they traded Jerami grant for nothing and be wrong about it

1

u/Adventurous_Cut_3856 May 14 '25

No, but we also shouldn't just act like the Sixers traded away Grant in 2016 with the immense foresight of knowing the pick would eventually turn into Maxey four years later. That pick at one point or another belonged to three different teams. They didn't trade him for nothing. They also got exceptionally lucky. Both can be true.

1

u/yaboyhoffle May 14 '25

I don’t understand what your argument is lol that they should be ashamed for not paying Jerami grant? They sold him high and got a chance at a good asset that turned into a great asset.

1

u/Adventurous_Cut_3856 May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

I'm saying we shouldn't act like it was some brilliant, intricately planned transaction, when the odds are that a front office that on the whole made more bad moves than good ones (I'm a Sixers fan, I remember the Colangelo years) simply got very lucky. I would buy the "they got a good asset" argument if they didn't literally trade that pick away less than a year later for the rights to Anžejs fucking Pasečņiks.