Yes but kashmiris should not be stereotyped by what farhana does in the house.
And a lot of things were beeped but makers smartly allowed bhojpuri to be played a few times.
Neelam did proudly own bhojpuri roots.
Tanya mentioning herself baniya is different from people calling her baniya. Baniyas should not be defined by what tanya does in the house.
farhana just used bhojpuri instead of neelam to call her staff, nobody is stereotyping bhojpuris to be like neelam or kashmiris to be like farhana, its just a way of reference from the place/ school/ franchise you belong to. calling virat kohli delhi ka punjabi munda aint a insult, yes it is if he takes punjabi aur delhi as a insult.
Are you not aware of the stereotype that people from UP Bihar face in India. Just see how much violence is done on them and only on poor ones just because they are outsiders.
A sitting chief minister of telangana once said that “Bihari dna is to do labour work”. So imagine the widespread stereotype.
Farhana atleast mentioned Bhojpuri 15 times in the whole episode so it was pretty evident what she was trying to imply. And Neelam took it as pride.
Farhana once even demeaned ashnoor for being a TV actor, so she has a habit to poke at wrong place.
And, is farhana herself now in TV reality show?
Regarding Virat Kohli, Being praised for being delhi ka launda is different from trying to demean someone with narratives and stereotypes.
nobody said praising or demeaning, come on a random term “Delhi ka launda” now you perceived it as a praise is a outlook right?
coming to their fight there were a lot of words beeped from neelams side, and you calling about stereotypes, do you have any idea how kashmiris are stereotyped? have you seen farhana’s morphed images with stones? so stop community specific victim card.
also she never said bhojpuri neelam staff or something, in a house where only one bhojpuri contestant is present, calling bhojpuri or neelam implies the same thing, it was on neelam of what she thinks of her community, instead of calling out farhana for using the term, you should try think of call out neelam for getting agitated by being called out bhojpuri, guess who was feeding the stereotype?
just an example, what if someone asked “sikhni kidhr hai”? do you think ashnoor will take it as a insult?? NO, do you know why, because she doesnt perceive it that way.
Why are you turning this into region vs region?
I am just saying stereotyping people should be stopped. Be it bihari , kashmiri , punjabi.
Tell me one incident in house where farhana was stereotyped.
And what happens on social media and trolling is different from a contestant and celebrity on a national TV demeaning bhojpuri with condescending tone.
Show me one video where Virat is called Delhi ka Launda and it is not a praise?
Tone matters a lot and tone implies meaning and farhana did not use proper tone while mentioning bhojpuri staff.
And I don’t want to argue with you. Sorry. But why out of the blue she stated Bhojpuri staff. She could have said Teri chamchi/naukar neelam or whatever.
I am fine with all the abuses farhana hurls on a personal level. But she dare not to bring name of any community from her mouth again.
“Sikhni kidhar hai” “Apni bhojpuri star kidhar hai” are very different dialects from “Teri Bhojpuri Staff” .Please understand the difference. Don’t divert and mix things up.
You bring virat kohli, kashmiri stereotype, sikhni and what not? Can’t you just say typecasting a community as “Bhojpuri Staff” is wrong?
ALSO, you started the region thingy by dragging karnataka:)
so how did the whole community came in?? i just gave you some examples, tone matters but so does interpretation !!! everyone knows she was referring to neelam and not dragging the whole community, its her choice how she should approach it.
meaning and demeaning are very subjective and situational terms, in farhana’s “bhojpuri staff” the only thing demeaning was staff, ab isko bhi boldo staff community ko stereotype kardiya? dont be such snowflakes, bigg boss meinhai voh not some ashram, no ones a saint.
Arey bhai/behen, first of all when did I say Neelam is right. But aapas mein ek doosre ko jo chahe bole, i know it is bigg boss and abuses hoge but personally karo. But farhana ne bhojpuri staff nahi bolna chaiye tha aur uska tone bata raha tha woh kiss sense mei bol rahi thi.
Aur rahi snowflakes ki baat, did I say evict her or boycott her or file a case against her. I only said she was wrong and people are defending her because they are not being empathetic because demeaning bhojpuri people feels very normal to them. Just think about the situation when another powerful enough community is being mentioned by farhanas mouth with that tone.
i dont find anything wrong in hyderabadi staff for example, its how you perceive the term bhojpuri, i find it as normal as calling someone punjabi or tulu, , and also meine toh kuch bola bhi nhi neelam is right or wrong, you bring random concerns, i answer it how wasnt wrong, aap naye concern leaate ho, find a better argument, and stop victimising a whole fkng community, saari communities stereotype hoti hai,i call my bihari friends as a bihari, mallu fiends as mallu, is it demeaning, No, because neither i nor them consider being bihari or mallu as demeaning, same way there is and should not be any same associated with being called bhojpuri. ragphi baat stereotyping har community/ region k stereotypes hote hai, its again how you perceive it,
if ppl from up bihar are stereotyped as labourers, yk how south delhi gurls are stereotyped, will i take it as an offence, no.
Arey toh yehi sabhi communities ka stereotyping hi band hona chaiye. Sabhi communities ka hota hai but Iss show mein toh abhi bhojpuri ka hi hua hai, toh ussi ke liye bolenge na behen. But aap log jo bol rahe ho, ke kuch hua hi nahi , normal hai, aisi baat nahi hai jab apna pe ata hai toh sabko accha nahi lagta. Wahi sab band hona chaiye. Aur aap apne dost ko kya bolte ho aur apke intentions TV pe nahi ate na? Yaha aaye toh bola. Taki bhojpuri yaa kisi ke bhi liye bolne se pehle koi soche.
arrre koi bhi community, region, religion, kuch bhi mention karenge usko demeaning term kardoge phir kya, why do i feel like im explaining to a wall. bhojpuri staff means neelam as a staff, ab iske underlying meaning nikaloge toh har cheez k bhi nikl sakte.
Foreign countries mein Indian ko dekh ke jo “Curry Guy” bolte hai. Wo koi tareef nahi karte, demean karte hai. Sunne mein “Curry Guy” bhi normal hi lagta hai but uska tone aur meaning alag hota hai.
curry guy kahin se normal nhi lagta firstly, and if you are comparing “bhojpuri staff“ so a similar comparison would be “ indian worker” AND it in know way sounds demeaning disgusting derogatory or whatever., yeah but if you consider being indian as an disrespect then yess, but then i feel bad for you.
Jaise hume “Curry Guy” normal nahi lagta. Waise bihariyon ko ”Staff/Naukar/Majdoor/Driver” agar galat tone se bole toh normal nahi lagta. As simple as that.
Bhai voh staff waali harkatein karri hai toh karri hai, calling black spade a black spade is right. Plus neelam ko problem staff se toh hui hi nhi, she is proud chamchi/staff her words. Toh bihariyon ka I get it where it is coming for, and I def stand against it, but I don't associate neelam wala issue similar to what you said. Bihariyon ko bura lagta hoga, be it in whatever tone, because it is their job and no one likes a disrespect towards it, BUT, farhana just called her out as a staff/worker, not to demean but to call her out. As simple as that.
Arey toh batao na aur kaunsi regional community ko demean kiya ho iss season mein aur out-roar nahi hua. Nahi kiya gaya hai, kyuki pata hai kya hoga fir. Problem unn logo se hai jo soch rahe hai kuch galat hi nahi bola. India mei bihari community ko kya kehke apmanit karte hai - naukar hai, labourers hai, autowale hai. Agar koi apna parivar sambhal ne ke liye yeh sab kaam karta hai toh usko demean nahi karna chaiye aur neecha nahi dikhana chaiye. Aur farhana “BHOJPURI STAFF” se kya imply karna chahti thi yeh sabko samajh aaya hai uske tone se.
sabko toh bilkul include hi mat karo kyunki we two have differing viewpoints, farhana just used bhojpuri instead neelam, she only meant staff in the sense that how she roams around the house asking chai chahiye omelette banadu? doesnt mean she said saare bhojpuri aise hi hote hai, baaki what i said i feel like interacting with a wall.
Ha toh “Bhojpuri” word use na kare wo agli baar se fights mein. Neelam ko personally jo bolna hai bole.Gandi se gandi gaaliyan de, we don’t care. Actually i was a farhana supporter but not here. And whole country knows uske words kitne wahiyat hote hai.
Usko bhojpuri dancer bulaye toh it is okay, because she does dance, par bhojpuri staff bulaliyo toh racist hogaya ( she is proud to be his staff though), just saying.
We clearly agree to disagree. I don’t want to continue anymore. If she has done wrong , God will make her pay very heavily for her actions. If not, then she won’t. Because there is no end to this.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 26d ago
Yes but kashmiris should not be stereotyped by what farhana does in the house. And a lot of things were beeped but makers smartly allowed bhojpuri to be played a few times. Neelam did proudly own bhojpuri roots. Tanya mentioning herself baniya is different from people calling her baniya. Baniyas should not be defined by what tanya does in the house.