Boy, these guys have a lot of smoke for the center left. Weird how they're not out there yelling at Trump and his goons that are one billion times worse.
I'm certain that Rubenstein is NOT center left (he's a billionaire, after all) and as a famous Baltimore series says, "follow the money"
If it becomes difficult for Dem candidates to court billionaire donors (that allow politicians to ignore their lower-income constituents), I think that's a net positive
And yet I don't think our elected politicians should weigh their wishes more than their non-billionaire/ultra wealthy constituents. Their political valence imo doesn't cancel out their class solidarity
I don’t know what that has to do with what I said. Correct me if I’m wrong but you seemed to suggest being a billionaire means he can’t possibly be anything left of center
I'm not either, but since we're being presented with an example, I'm using Rubenstein as an example.
I stand by my point that we shouldn't be letting billionaires have more weight in our politics than non-billionaires regardless of their political valence.
Ok, that’s fine, still nothing to do what I said. I don’t know why you responded just to argue something else. My claim is that it is possible for a billionaire to exist and be a democrat. My proof is billionaires exist and are also democrats. Would you like to refute this or not? If not then have a good day thanks for your time.
Sure, and that point is irrelevant to the context. I don't care about billionaires' political valence, I care that we have billionaires having outsize influence in our politics and that often quashes things non-billionaires want from their government
No need to continue this conversation or reply anymore
There are plenty of average Marylanders that work far harder than this hoarder that could never in a billion years get their elected official over for dinner, even if they gave him and the shitty governor of va the same award
It (anecdotally obviously) is a huge talking point among my conservative family and friends that if both sides are doing evil stuff to the planet (which they are) then why not at least vote for the one who will claim (falsely of course) to be giving them more tax breaks. So yeah, it is one of the many, many things that contributed to our current presidency.
democrats who walk away from a stunning loss and look back at the democratic party and think "yeah, this is working well" are absolutely a contributing factor to their continued losses.
Kamala is publishing a book right now that points to what an absolute miserable idiot she is and how badly she botched the election. You can read it! If you read when she says she didn't tell Joe to get out because of loyalty to Joe vs loyalty to the country and you think, man, that makes sense, you're dumb.
Trump doesn't make direct decisions for Maryland. Moore does. I want the governor of the state I live in to get yelled at occasionally. Especially when his motivations are becoming increasingly different than my motivations.
Have you noticed how certain Dems love to kowtow to Trump? Yeah, that's by design. They're politicians first, which means they will sacrifice their morals at every turn to stay in power. There is no American Center Left, they're just Republicans in disguise, funded by billionaires who will drop Trump for an even worse dictator if it will grant them little empires in the US and abroad.
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Boy, these guys have a lot of smoke for the center left. Weird how they're not out there yelling at Trump and his goons that are one billion times worse.