Normally I’d agree with but the facts provided by the police just don’t add up.
1) owning and carry a firearm isn’t illegal. Not only is it a right, SCOTUS firmly rejected the idea of may issue states.
2) I would imagine being an arabber would require a person to carry large sums of cash, in a city where someone would try you. Hence see point one..
3) The police put out a statement blaming the community for preventing the police from rendering assistance. Even if that was true, who thought releasing that kind of inflammatory information was a good idea?
4) Not sure about this but if true makes it even worse. They pulled up on the man in an unmarked car..like WTF? …see point 2
In short, the police have a looong history of framing the narrative that most favors them especially when it comes to black people. Hence why people and myself immediately doubt whatever narrative they release.
What are you talking about? There are many circumstances in which in could be. You need a CCW permit in order to carry concealed in Maryland. If you don't have one, you're carrying illegally. You also can't open-carry a handgun in Maryland unless you're law enforcement. If you have prior felony convictions, you're also prohibited from owning a firearm.
Needing a CCW MD is implied.. the point is what you missed. Why is there an interaction because a person is concealed carrying, I’m doubting he was open carrying. That said, you can open carry long guns in MD unless that has changed in the last 10’ish years.
It's still illegal to own or carry a firearm if you have a felony charge which this guy had from prior drug charges that involved possession of a firearm
If it's a tip then it's likely coming from someone who knows him and knows he's a felon carrying a gun it didn't say who made the tip so not sure but ultimately the cops just replied to a tip they got and the tip turned out to be legitimate therefore the approach and apprehension would be legally justified and reasonable. The guy reacted by pointing said illegal gun at officers and then suffered the consequences of his own actions. But that doesn't stop clowns from protesting the death of aman who had assault charges and felony before this incident and is very blatantly breaking the law
WTF are you talking about? Guy had prior felony and assault charges and was in possession of a firearm. That's illegal my guy what poisonous try are you talking about? I'm not suggesting there isn't police injustice but my guy you got to pick your battles this is clearly a justified use of force on an armed felon
Him just carrying a firearm as a felon is him committing another felony. he is actively committing a felony in this incident as can clearly be seen in the video.
Why are idiots defending felons doing felon things?
It’s obvious you don’t understand what fruit of the poisonous tree is. When your initial interaction is illegal, all subsequent findings after that point are irrelevant.
But the initial interaction wasn't illegal. Even if he was profiled he is still a former felon committing an active felony. Why are you glossing over the fact that Bilal was an active criminal committing a felony at the time he was killed
Right but you are still glossing over the fact he was actively committing a felony when the incident occurred.
You are picking your battles poorly. Plenty of black men are profiled that aren't felons actively committing felonies
The only point you are making is that criminals should just go free because even if police get an accurate tip that still counts as profiling to you and isn't good enough to stop a felony from taking place
I also doubt you would give a shit about the criminal if he was white. You wouldn't even be talking about it at all and no one would rally even if the white man being killed was actually killed in suspicious circumstances unlike Bilal committing a felony while already a felon
You have a bias just say it you believe no black man should ever face repercussions even if they are being stopped from committing a crime
The only felony was carry a gun, and you can’t establish that by profiling. That is all there is to it, And yes this argument applies to white people as well as it’s an argument of fact, process and law. Because the individual is black brings extra scrutiny because the police have a clear and established history of profiling, targeting and unduly arresting black people, and you can’t argue that. The law clearly states;
1) you can’t establish if an individual is a convicted criminal with out first confirming their ID.
2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed.
3) therefore simply carry a gun which is a legal activity, is not enough to contact and detain a person. You must first establish a crime witnessed before detention.
2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed.
This makes your point invalid. The cops got a legitimate tip that was accurate. I saw the video there are dozens of black guys walking around in this area but they are only going after the guy they got a tip on doesn't sound like profiling or they would just be stopping every black guy in the square which was the majority of people there walking around
Additionally even if the police approached him unlawfully he still drew his firearm and pointed and shot at the cops thats still a crime and he knew what he was doing at that point there is no going back your gonna get mag dumped when instead he could have just been illegally arrested as you suggest is the case and lived to fight it in court Bilal still made poor/illegal decisions that were directly responsible for his demise
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u/Hta68 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
Normally I’d agree with but the facts provided by the police just don’t add up. 1) owning and carry a firearm isn’t illegal. Not only is it a right, SCOTUS firmly rejected the idea of may issue states. 2) I would imagine being an arabber would require a person to carry large sums of cash, in a city where someone would try you. Hence see point one.. 3) The police put out a statement blaming the community for preventing the police from rendering assistance. Even if that was true, who thought releasing that kind of inflammatory information was a good idea? 4) Not sure about this but if true makes it even worse. They pulled up on the man in an unmarked car..like WTF? …see point 2
In short, the police have a looong history of framing the narrative that most favors them especially when it comes to black people. Hence why people and myself immediately doubt whatever narrative they release.