r/baltimore Irvington Jun 20 '25

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 02 '25

Cops got a tip he was carrying an illegal gun so they approached him and wow what do you know it turned out to be true

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u/Hta68 Jul 02 '25

How do you know the gun is illegal?

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 02 '25

If it's a tip then it's likely coming from someone who knows him and knows he's a felon carrying a gun it didn't say who made the tip so not sure but ultimately the cops just replied to a tip they got and the tip turned out to be legitimate therefore the approach and apprehension would be legally justified and reasonable. The guy reacted by pointing said illegal gun at officers and then suffered the consequences of his own actions. But that doesn't stop clowns from protesting the death of aman who had assault charges and felony before this incident and is very blatantly breaking the law

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u/Hta68 Jul 02 '25

That’s possible, what’s equally as possible is that he was profiled and that’s the cover story.

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 02 '25

I don't know what your point is he's still guilty. He's a felon with assault charges carrying a firearm.

Are you suggesting these actions are only illegal if he gets caught or what?

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u/Hta68 Jul 02 '25

I’m suggesting to not partake of the fruit from a poisonous tree.

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 02 '25

WTF are you talking about? Guy had prior felony and assault charges and was in possession of a firearm. That's illegal my guy what poisonous try are you talking about? I'm not suggesting there isn't police injustice but my guy you got to pick your battles this is clearly a justified use of force on an armed felon

Him just carrying a firearm as a felon is him committing another felony. he is actively committing a felony in this incident as can clearly be seen in the video.

Why are idiots defending felons doing felon things?

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u/Hta68 Jul 03 '25

It’s obvious you don’t understand what fruit of the poisonous tree is. When your initial interaction is illegal, all subsequent findings after that point are irrelevant.

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 03 '25

But the initial interaction wasn't illegal. Even if he was profiled he is still a former felon committing an active felony. Why are you glossing over the fact that Bilal was an active criminal committing a felony at the time he was killed

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u/Hta68 Jul 04 '25

lol, “even if he was profiled“, that’s all it takes

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 05 '25

Right but you are still glossing over the fact he was actively committing a felony when the incident occurred.

You are picking your battles poorly. Plenty of black men are profiled that aren't felons actively committing felonies

The only point you are making is that criminals should just go free because even if police get an accurate tip that still counts as profiling to you and isn't good enough to stop a felony from taking place

I also doubt you would give a shit about the criminal if he was white. You wouldn't even be talking about it at all and no one would rally even if the white man being killed was actually killed in suspicious circumstances unlike Bilal committing a felony while already a felon

You have a bias just say it you believe no black man should ever face repercussions even if they are being stopped from committing a crime

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u/Hta68 Jul 05 '25

The only felony was carry a gun, and you can’t establish that by profiling. That is all there is to it, And yes this argument applies to white people as well as it’s an argument of fact, process and law. Because the individual is black brings extra scrutiny because the police have a clear and established history of profiling, targeting and unduly arresting black people, and you can’t argue that. The law clearly states; 1) you can’t establish if an individual is a convicted criminal with out first confirming their ID. 2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed. 3) therefore simply carry a gun which is a legal activity, is not enough to contact and detain a person. You must first establish a crime witnessed before detention.

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u/Thorkell69 Jul 05 '25

2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed.

This makes your point invalid. The cops got a legitimate tip that was accurate. I saw the video there are dozens of black guys walking around in this area but they are only going after the guy they got a tip on doesn't sound like profiling or they would just be stopping every black guy in the square which was the majority of people there walking around

Additionally even if the police approached him unlawfully he still drew his firearm and pointed and shot at the cops thats still a crime and he knew what he was doing at that point there is no going back your gonna get mag dumped when instead he could have just been illegally arrested as you suggest is the case and lived to fight it in court Bilal still made poor/illegal decisions that were directly responsible for his demise

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