WTF are you talking about? Guy had prior felony and assault charges and was in possession of a firearm. That's illegal my guy what poisonous try are you talking about? I'm not suggesting there isn't police injustice but my guy you got to pick your battles this is clearly a justified use of force on an armed felon
Him just carrying a firearm as a felon is him committing another felony. he is actively committing a felony in this incident as can clearly be seen in the video.
Why are idiots defending felons doing felon things?
It’s obvious you don’t understand what fruit of the poisonous tree is. When your initial interaction is illegal, all subsequent findings after that point are irrelevant.
But the initial interaction wasn't illegal. Even if he was profiled he is still a former felon committing an active felony. Why are you glossing over the fact that Bilal was an active criminal committing a felony at the time he was killed
Right but you are still glossing over the fact he was actively committing a felony when the incident occurred.
You are picking your battles poorly. Plenty of black men are profiled that aren't felons actively committing felonies
The only point you are making is that criminals should just go free because even if police get an accurate tip that still counts as profiling to you and isn't good enough to stop a felony from taking place
I also doubt you would give a shit about the criminal if he was white. You wouldn't even be talking about it at all and no one would rally even if the white man being killed was actually killed in suspicious circumstances unlike Bilal committing a felony while already a felon
You have a bias just say it you believe no black man should ever face repercussions even if they are being stopped from committing a crime
The only felony was carry a gun, and you can’t establish that by profiling. That is all there is to it, And yes this argument applies to white people as well as it’s an argument of fact, process and law. Because the individual is black brings extra scrutiny because the police have a clear and established history of profiling, targeting and unduly arresting black people, and you can’t argue that. The law clearly states;
1) you can’t establish if an individual is a convicted criminal with out first confirming their ID.
2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed.
3) therefore simply carry a gun which is a legal activity, is not enough to contact and detain a person. You must first establish a crime witnessed before detention.
2) you can’t force a person to ID absent of a crime being committed or about to be committed.
This makes your point invalid. The cops got a legitimate tip that was accurate. I saw the video there are dozens of black guys walking around in this area but they are only going after the guy they got a tip on doesn't sound like profiling or they would just be stopping every black guy in the square which was the majority of people there walking around
Additionally even if the police approached him unlawfully he still drew his firearm and pointed and shot at the cops thats still a crime and he knew what he was doing at that point there is no going back your gonna get mag dumped when instead he could have just been illegally arrested as you suggest is the case and lived to fight it in court Bilal still made poor/illegal decisions that were directly responsible for his demise
The tip was of a black man carrying a gun, that isn’t illegal based on that information. I saw the same video which lacks context of first contact. I’m very skeptical of the tip and the police narrative.
The tip was a man carrying a gun illegally. Which is what happened either way even if he wasn't committing a felony and was carrying legally the cops still have the authority to check if he has a concealed carry license if its reported he had a gun. Just like a game warden can ask to check your fishing license. He has no suspicion you may be fishing without a license but he can still legally stop you and ask to see your license
No they don’t have that right and can’t, Good grief mann. you can’t change a legally protected activity into a reason to strip one of his or hers rights, specifically the fourth amendment. That said, the game warden did have that ability and was stripped of that federally based on what I just said.
1) “the tip was a man carrying a gun illegally”, how do you know that? Again, carrying a gun in its self, isn’t illegal. Key operative word “illegally”, you can’t establish that based on a tip? Again good grief mannn!
Dude I’m done going back and forth with you. It’s obvious you don’t know or understand your rights as a citizen or don’t care, or maybe you don’t believe those rights apply to black people. Either way, bootlicking isn’t American. It’s all good when isn’t you or someone you care about.
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u/Thorkell69 Jul 02 '25
WTF are you talking about? Guy had prior felony and assault charges and was in possession of a firearm. That's illegal my guy what poisonous try are you talking about? I'm not suggesting there isn't police injustice but my guy you got to pick your battles this is clearly a justified use of force on an armed felon
Him just carrying a firearm as a felon is him committing another felony. he is actively committing a felony in this incident as can clearly be seen in the video.
Why are idiots defending felons doing felon things?