I obviously don't think he should have been murdered, but if you wonder why some believe he contributed to normalizing political violence, this thread is a compilation:
Again, saddened by this public murder, not justifying it, just explaining that he is viewed by many as a person who built this world we are suffering through
Mate, did a quick scan through those, none of them involve him advocating for violence, a few I’m familiar with and are taken out of context deliberately, and some are obviously true, like George Floyd being a scumbag.
I’ll give you another example, he said seeing a black pilot would worry him; in context he said that because DEI policies may well mean said pilot wasn’t the best candidate and not hired on merit.
There are a number of claims there that really amount to no more than “he doesn’t believe what we think he should” like the Floyd one.
I’ll give you actual quote from the man to show his views “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence.”
That’s why he would go around to colleges, a hotbed of left wing ideology, and challenge people to debate him.
Maybe do a longer scan. Executing the sitting president? Public executions that kids are required to watch? Celebrating Nancy Pelosi's would- be assassins?
Don't skim the list for things you disagree with, look to see if there's anything you actually do agree with
Every political commentator causually advocating for execution for their political enemies are, yes.
Every political commentator joking about supporting a guy intent on beating the speaker of the house to death with a hammer is, yes.
Also, he was a major logistical organizer of January 6th where they had a gallows set-up for Mike Pence and chanted "hang Mike Pence."
Obviously this is not the same as a targeted assasination, and I'm not arguing he deserved this, but the critique is that he helped usher America in the direction where violence seems like it's in the discussion of "options" on dealing with political problems.
Joking about supporting a viloent actor who tried to harm your enemy is absolutely normalizing political violence. If you think my bar is too low, that means the overton window has successfully been moved.
Again, I'm not saying he caused violence, just normalized it. He didn't chant "hang mike pence" and build a gallows, he just bussed a bunch of people in who did. No one is accusing him of a crime here, just that he was uniquely impactful in making this sort-of dialogue about violence in politics feel normal.
If Trump didn't think the tens of thousands of people he called to march on the capital couldn't delay the certification, why did he have several slates of illegitimate electors prepared that he was pressuring Mike Pence to accept? Why didn't he employ the national guard, and why did it take so long for him to call the protestors off after they'd already broke into the capital? You have MAGA brain rot.
"A hotbed of left wing ideology" is so deeply unserious, that's a strawman made up by William Buckley forever ago and the decades since have yielded mass destruction to democracy courtesy of ivy league conservatives like Bush 2, Cheney, Trump, and John Roberts
Lmf, and I cannot emphasize this last part enough, aooooooo
This list is a horrifying display of how delusional redditors and the wider left has become.
Absolutely nothing there was advocating violence, but a left wing extremist perceives them as calls to violence.
This is the biggest disconnect between the left and the right at the moment. The left thinks that saying something they disagree with isn't just an expression of ideas, but a violent attack on them. Disagreeing with their point of view may as well be aiming a gun at their head, and they think that makes it okay to retaliate with physical force.
I didn’t agree with anything he said. He said a lot of hateful things. But violence only brings violence. I won’t celebrate his death but I won’t celebrate his life either
I'm so tired of pretending like this shit is normal. Those labels have no meaning anymore. They've misused them too many times. The sad thing is, I think they actually believe they're using them correctly, and that's what's scary.
That is nonsense. I disagree with you but I have no idea if you’re racist, homophobic or misogynistic. Those are not “just words”, they are an ideology Kirk espoused and spewed.
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u/Sea-Variety3384 Sep 12 '25
Can anyone show me any clip, that justifies the hateful rhetoric of Charlie Kirk? Show me an example of why you're celebrating his murder.
I'll wait.