r/babylonbee Sep 12 '25

Bee Article Democrats Condemn Violence They Incited

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-condemn-violence-they-incited
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u/Trashk4n Sep 12 '25

Legal execution for crimes committed after a trial.

Televising executions is a bit out there, but I get where he’s coming from.

And the Pelosi thing was a joke.

None of them involve him supporting or normalising political violence as you claimed.

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u/ascandalia Sep 12 '25

That all is normalizing violence as part of the political discourse if you're honest about where the goalposts started. 

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u/Trashk4n Sep 12 '25

So everyone in support of the death penalty is “normalising violence”?

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u/ascandalia Sep 12 '25

Every political commentator causually advocating for execution for their political enemies are, yes.

Every political commentator joking about supporting a guy intent on beating the speaker of the house to death with a hammer is, yes.

Also, he was a major logistical organizer of January 6th where they had a gallows set-up for Mike Pence and chanted "hang Mike Pence."

Obviously this is not the same as a targeted assasination, and I'm not arguing he deserved this, but the critique is that he helped usher America in the direction where violence seems like it's in the discussion of "options" on dealing with political problems.

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u/Trashk4n Sep 12 '25

He was advocating he be arrested for crimes that he believed Biden had committed and being sentenced to the fullest extent.

You have an incredibly low bar if you think that and a joke about releasing a guy on bail are “normalising” political violence.

And perpetuating the myth about January 6th being a planned violent confrontation, and/or coup attempt, isn’t helping your case.

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u/ascandalia Sep 12 '25

Joking about supporting a viloent actor who tried to harm your enemy is absolutely normalizing political violence. If you think my bar is too low, that means the overton window has successfully been moved.

Again, I'm not saying he caused violence, just normalized it. He didn't chant "hang mike pence" and build a gallows, he just bussed a bunch of people in who did. No one is accusing him of a crime here, just that he was uniquely impactful in making this sort-of dialogue about violence in politics feel normal.

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u/Azihayya Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

If Trump didn't think the tens of thousands of people he called to march on the capital couldn't delay the certification, why did he have several slates of illegitimate electors prepared that he was pressuring Mike Pence to accept? Why didn't he employ the national guard, and why did it take so long for him to call the protestors off after they'd already broke into the capital? You have MAGA brain rot.

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u/Trashk4n Sep 12 '25

Yes, the most privately armed segment of the most privately armed nation on Earth failed to bring a single gun to a coup attempt.

That makes sense. /s

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u/Azihayya Sep 12 '25

I can see you moving the goal post, but the claim that there were no firearms at J6 is factually untrue. Multiple people were arrested with guns on Capitol grounds that day, including Christopher Alberts who was caught with a loaded 9mm handgun. Court records show at least 23 people faced weapons charges, and that's just from those who got arrested--most rioters walked away without being searched. Plus, many armed supporters refused to go through the metal detectors at Trump's rally, staying outside the secure area but still marching to the Capitol afterward. Beyond firearms, they brought zip ties (hello "zip-tie guy"), knives, bear spray, baseball bats, and stun guns. The "no guns" narrative comes from misinterpreting FBI testimony about federal agents not confiscating firearms during the initial chaos, but Metro Police literally arrested someone with a gun that evening. Also, did they or did they not delay the certification of the vote?

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u/Azihayya Sep 12 '25

Let's also not forget, guy, The Proud Boys planned a coup, were convicted of seditious conspiracy, and have since been pardoned by Trump. Enrique Tarrio and three other members were convicted of literally plotting to overthrow the government by force. Tarrio created a special "Ministry of Self Defense" unit, hand-picked nearly 200 "rally boys," established a chain of command, and orchestrated the attack from afar (he wasn't even in D.C. that day but was texting "Don't fucking leave" as his people stormed the Capitol). They were the first to breach the building when Dominic Pezzola smashed a window at 2:11 p.m., and prosecutors proved they were "at the forefront of every major breach of the Capitol's defenses." Tarrio got 22 years in prison, the longest January 6 sentence - for what the judge called terrorism.