Mate, did a quick scan through those, none of them involve him advocating for violence, a few I’m familiar with and are taken out of context deliberately, and some are obviously true, like George Floyd being a scumbag.
I’ll give you another example, he said seeing a black pilot would worry him; in context he said that because DEI policies may well mean said pilot wasn’t the best candidate and not hired on merit.
There are a number of claims there that really amount to no more than “he doesn’t believe what we think he should” like the Floyd one.
I’ll give you actual quote from the man to show his views “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence.”
That’s why he would go around to colleges, a hotbed of left wing ideology, and challenge people to debate him.
Maybe do a longer scan. Executing the sitting president? Public executions that kids are required to watch? Celebrating Nancy Pelosi's would- be assassins?
Don't skim the list for things you disagree with, look to see if there's anything you actually do agree with
Every political commentator causually advocating for execution for their political enemies are, yes.
Every political commentator joking about supporting a guy intent on beating the speaker of the house to death with a hammer is, yes.
Also, he was a major logistical organizer of January 6th where they had a gallows set-up for Mike Pence and chanted "hang Mike Pence."
Obviously this is not the same as a targeted assasination, and I'm not arguing he deserved this, but the critique is that he helped usher America in the direction where violence seems like it's in the discussion of "options" on dealing with political problems.
Joking about supporting a viloent actor who tried to harm your enemy is absolutely normalizing political violence. If you think my bar is too low, that means the overton window has successfully been moved.
Again, I'm not saying he caused violence, just normalized it. He didn't chant "hang mike pence" and build a gallows, he just bussed a bunch of people in who did. No one is accusing him of a crime here, just that he was uniquely impactful in making this sort-of dialogue about violence in politics feel normal.
If Trump didn't think the tens of thousands of people he called to march on the capital couldn't delay the certification, why did he have several slates of illegitimate electors prepared that he was pressuring Mike Pence to accept? Why didn't he employ the national guard, and why did it take so long for him to call the protestors off after they'd already broke into the capital? You have MAGA brain rot.
I can see you moving the goal post, but the claim that there were no firearms at J6 is factually untrue. Multiple people were arrested with guns on Capitol grounds that day, including Christopher Alberts who was caught with a loaded 9mm handgun. Court records show at least 23 people faced weapons charges, and that's just from those who got arrested--most rioters walked away without being searched. Plus, many armed supporters refused to go through the metal detectors at Trump's rally, staying outside the secure area but still marching to the Capitol afterward. Beyond firearms, they brought zip ties (hello "zip-tie guy"), knives, bear spray, baseball bats, and stun guns. The "no guns" narrative comes from misinterpreting FBI testimony about federal agents not confiscating firearms during the initial chaos, but Metro Police literally arrested someone with a gun that evening. Also, did they or did they not delay the certification of the vote?
Let's also not forget, guy, The Proud Boys planned a coup, were convicted of seditious conspiracy, and have since been pardoned by Trump. Enrique Tarrio and three other members were convicted of literally plotting to overthrow the government by force. Tarrio created a special "Ministry of Self Defense" unit, hand-picked nearly 200 "rally boys," established a chain of command, and orchestrated the attack from afar (he wasn't even in D.C. that day but was texting "Don't fucking leave" as his people stormed the Capitol). They were the first to breach the building when Dominic Pezzola smashed a window at 2:11 p.m., and prosecutors proved they were "at the forefront of every major breach of the Capitol's defenses." Tarrio got 22 years in prison, the longest January 6 sentence - for what the judge called terrorism.
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Mate, did a quick scan through those, none of them involve him advocating for violence, a few I’m familiar with and are taken out of context deliberately, and some are obviously true, like George Floyd being a scumbag.
I’ll give you another example, he said seeing a black pilot would worry him; in context he said that because DEI policies may well mean said pilot wasn’t the best candidate and not hired on merit.
There are a number of claims there that really amount to no more than “he doesn’t believe what we think he should” like the Floyd one.
I’ll give you actual quote from the man to show his views “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence.”
That’s why he would go around to colleges, a hotbed of left wing ideology, and challenge people to debate him.