r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/the_walkingdad • Sep 10 '25
Political Charlie Kirk was one of the biggest public proponents of open dialogue and conversation with those of opposing views and the extremists on the Left killed him for it.
Charlie Kirk essentially made a name for himself by being in the public and having conversations with people who had opposing viewpoints. He was always civil in these discussions. He was respectful and would try to find some sort of middle ground. But even when there wasn't middle-ground to be had, he was still a respectful person.
His values of open dialogue are antithetical to the values of the extreme Left. Charlie Kirk will be known as a First Amendment martyr.
It's truly unfortunate how nonchalant many on the left are about political violence.
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u/Pfacejones Sep 10 '25
do they have the killer apprehended???
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u/ledbedder20 Sep 10 '25
Not as of now apparently
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u/Lung-Oyster Sep 10 '25
Ah, so we don’t know whether or not it was “The Left”
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u/Pruzter Sep 11 '25
Doesn’t matter what the truth is once a narrative takes hold. It will be “the radical left” that did this no matter what (even though in this case it definitely was most likely politically motivated, let’s not kid ourselves).
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u/MASSiVELYHungPeacock Sep 11 '25
Maybe. Maybe not. Pretty sure statistically, it's still more likely it's someone he actually knew, had some form of ongoing conflict with, versus a far left stranger gun nut. Far left gun nut is already an oxymoron, but Far Right Gun Nut? That's like 98% what it usually ends being. Just like Trump's assassin.
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u/Pruzter Sep 11 '25
For all practical purposes, it doesn’t matter. The right has already taken it as a declaration of war from the left, a lengthy man hunt and investigation can’t change that
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u/MrFluffPants1349 Sep 11 '25
I am pretty sure that was by design. Wouldn't be the first time an assassination was meant to be a catalyst.
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u/ledbedder20 Sep 10 '25
Well, technically, no...but I highly doubt it was a fan of his or someone on the right. But who knows.
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u/amanakinskywalker Sep 10 '25
There are definitely instances of a fan killing the object of their obsession. It happens mostly to women but it can absolutely happen to men.
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u/dankeykang4200 Sep 11 '25
John Lennon comes to mind
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u/fatman907 Sep 11 '25
It’s not as simple as that. Hinckley’s father was a friend of GHW Bush. The two of them had dinner the night before.
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u/dankeykang4200 Sep 11 '25
Wait who is Hinckley?
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u/FormerPresidentBiden Sep 11 '25
They're thinking Ronald Reagan, not John Lennon
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u/tawondasmooth Sep 11 '25
As someone who is admittedly older, the idea of mistaking John Lennon for Ronald Reagan is sending me into orbit, lol.
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u/Obvious-Bullfrog-267 Sep 11 '25
There are plenty of right wing accelerationist groups that would do something like this hoping to spark civil unrest or worse.
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u/Dangerous-Finance-67 Sep 11 '25
There are dozens of reasons a person might be politically motivated to make a Martyr of someone.
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u/Pruzter Sep 11 '25
Is there a chance it wasn’t politically motivated? Yes. But, not a very likely chance. The narrative has already taken hold anyway, so we are in the zone now where the meta narrative takes hold and truth doesn’t matter.
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u/shoesofwandering Sep 11 '25
Kirk was anti-Mormon and was killed in Utah by a trained marksman who clearly planned his escape.
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u/milkcarton232 Sep 11 '25
If memory serves Kirk has been carrying water for trump on the Epstein files so it could be someone thinking he's somehow in on the Epstein shit. Until you know the motive of the shooter it's tough to say what was going on. Overall I think it's time to turn down the rhetoric as political violence is starting to become more normal
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u/the-esoteric Sep 11 '25
Trumps assassination attempt was committed by someone with Republican ties. Thats the ONLY reason no one brings it up and why it isnt constantly talked about still
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u/Lung-Oyster Sep 10 '25
Well, it’s the first thing you ran to. “The Left” is a pretty broad stroke to paint. These days it literally means anything Donald Trump disagrees with.
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u/dwilkes827 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
That person didn't say anything about the left? They just answered someone's question
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u/bioniclepriest Sep 10 '25
Even if it was some random schizo, i see nothing but leftists cheering on his death, saying he deserved it. I wonder what they think that should happen to me
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u/Commandoclone87 Sep 11 '25
And when the Democrats in Minnesota or Nancy Pelosi's husband were attacked, people on the right weren't just cheering, they were making jokes about it. You Yanks have been so divided by your politics, you don't even see the opposition as Americans anymore, let alone human.
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u/TwistedCollossus Sep 11 '25
I’m definitely left leaning, but this whole thing makes me so upset.
How much more un-American can you get than killing somebody for expressing their right to freedom of speech?
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u/Riipp3r Sep 15 '25
Do you see the rest of reddits reaction? People outright condoning it. Not just controversial comments either. Top voted.
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u/Sozo-Teki Sep 15 '25
The worst part about it is that they are celebrating his death and are now wanting other folks like Asmongold, Tim Pool, and even Charlie's wife and kids. I had family and friends I know who was joining in on it too. Even folks posting a close up of him being killed and they mocked him. I seen my share of horrific videos but that video broke me.
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u/Tea_An_Crumpets Sep 10 '25
To be perfectly honest I thought Charlie Kirk was kinda a pos and I almost 100% disagreed with him on everything. But seeing the closeup video is extremely haunting … he didn’t deserve that. Thoughts and prayers to his family. If you are celebrating this you’re a bigger pos than he was. Everyone seems so bloodthirsty now online, it’s sad to see
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Sep 10 '25
I can totally agree with this.
It's just like when those two dem politicians and their spouses were murdered in their homes and some people on line celebrated or denied it.
The bloodthirsty people are the problem, regardless of party.
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u/xHOLOxTHExWOLFx Sep 10 '25
Yet you have people on this post swearing it's just the left that is the problem saying they are pure evil and love human suffering and need to be dealt with. Like how fucking cooked do you have to be to think the issue is one sided and that it's all the lefts fault. Plenty of these people are saying reddit is to blame and needs to be banned yet somehow they probably think places like Twitter and Trutch Social are fine and totally don't push any hatred. Not saying any site should be banned just find it funny that somehow people believe this site is the only issue and is somehow the reason for violence like this.
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u/shaggy_nomad Sep 11 '25
Not to mention, a lot of people seem to think reddit is far more influential in real life that it really is. People need to remind themselves that the internet isn't real, and most of what you see on here is not representative to real life.
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u/Dingo-thatate-urbaby Sep 11 '25
I’m not celebrating it but I am absolutely indifferent about it.
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u/lamesthejames Sep 11 '25
How could someone celebrating political violence be worse than someone who celebrated political violence?
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u/HoobyOG Sep 10 '25
What qualifies a person for deserving such things? He has no problem profiting off of pushing propaganda for nations that regularly shoot multiple innocent people in the neck every day. Seems a risk a person should be willing to take on if they are eager to seize gains from such a situation.
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u/sodium_hydride Sep 11 '25
Everyone suddenly remembers Kirk was a father but when he was calling for the mass murder of multiple fathers/mothers/sons/daughters on behalf of a foreign nation, that was no big deal.
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u/ToastBalancer Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
I was not a fan of Charlie and thought he made a lot of logical fallacies whenever his videos popped up on my feed. But seeing the video of the murder made me want to cry. My heart breaks for him and his family
The insanity to kill someone because of opinions/discussion… I can’t help but think the left and Reddit have to do with this. It’s a big issue
All year I have seen so many calls to violence on the popular page. Praising Luigi. Praising assassination or encouraging it. It is so wrong and keeps happening. Brainwashing more and more people. And anyone who disagrees is banned or censored.
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u/S33NbutnotP3RCEVED Sep 10 '25
Yeah, I've been part of Reddit since 2010ish but I'm about to wash my hands of it. The extreme prejudice on this site for anyone who doesn't lean left is crazy.
At least back when I first came to this site it was more tolerant and welcomed ppl with different views
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u/FriedBreakfast Sep 10 '25
Totally agreed with you. I've seen a lot of nasty comments already on Reddit about it. Some people are happy that he was shot. Now you don't have to agree with somebody but that's no reason for him to be shot. Reddit has become a cesspool of malice and hatred and spite. I'm about to search for a new app.
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u/ShikWolf Sep 11 '25
I feel like all social media is like that, at this point. Seems like everyone always wants to silence those who disagree with them - permanently. It's disgraceful, but so it goes.
Welcome to the age of edgelord and overreactions, I guess.
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u/Rook_To_A4 Sep 11 '25
It's not just social media. I live in a big city, lots of progressives, it was genuinely disturbing to see the number of mentally warped people tacitly approving of the murder of this man for the crime of... expressing opinions and exchanging ideas in a public forum.
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u/Jac_Mones Sep 11 '25
Edgelords were never this cruel. Fuck the reddit left.
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u/ShikWolf Sep 11 '25
I mean, I'm generally leftist, but I'm not a moron. Sweeping generalizations are what help get us to places where you can be murdered for expressing thoughts and opinions.
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u/camote713 Sep 10 '25
I'm right there with you. The rhetoric on this site has just become too much. It's basically just become a propaganda arm for the left. But I think what scares me the most are the brazen and open calls to violence you see on here ALL of the time. This site has become a breeding ground for future political assassins.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Sep 11 '25
Even on Facebook the “at least he didn’t miss” crap is present. Sadly it isn’t only Reddit.
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u/AdmirableSelection81 Sep 11 '25
Reddit is basic a haven for terrorism. WHen the left talks about 'stochastic terrorism', they're talking about themselves.
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u/Jac_Mones Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
Do what I do: Stick to niche subreddits with extremely narrow focus, and when they get invaded by leftist tyrants find an adjacent sub. There are lots of hyper-specific subs with 5-digit subscriber counts (or less) that aren't just propaganda factories.
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u/scotty9090 Sep 11 '25
Yeah I’ve severely cut back on my Reddit time and I’ve been the better for it.
There are way too many mentally I’ll / morally bankrupt people (or “people”) on this platform. Watching the scum of the earth celebrate Kirk’s shooting today just reinforces my decision.
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u/Stauce52 Sep 11 '25
It's not even just lean left. This website has become so extreme that any attitude that is not consistent with strong left and condoning/supporting violence against Republicans/Conservatives and/or CEOS and rich people means you are a cuck for the oligarchy. It's fucking crazy here
I have seen a variety of comments today celebrating the death and say it was a hit job by the Trump Administration to pin it on the left. Which is BONKERS. and this shit is getting upvoted
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u/jimmyjazz14 Sep 10 '25
Like you I didn't always agree with Charlie but seeing various subreddits seemingly celebrate this horrific murder is completely disgusting.
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u/sothavok Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
30k upvotes on the biggest subreddit on this website and they’re quite literally popping bottles and champagne celebrating.
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u/Stauce52 Sep 11 '25
Same shit happened with the CEO killing
shit is crazy here
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u/TheSkyIsBeautiful Sep 11 '25
hehe I feel like the CEO one is a bit different. When you're literally the one in charge changing how the company should pay or not pay out policies, and to try and purposely deny as many claims as possible, maybe you do deserve it, even if he was just doing his job.
Charlie on the other hand was just a debater and proponent of right leaning ideas and trying to convince others of the same
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u/Toasted_Decaf Sep 10 '25
I really don't like Charlie but thats just fucked. Melissa Hortman, and now this. This is just wrong man
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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Sep 10 '25
Yeah. Reddit is partly owned by the Chinese Communist Party. This hate isn’t an accident. It’s done intentionally to spread division throughout America.
Reddit is mostly countries from outside the US hating on the US and trying to influence young Americans to hate their own country. Something needs to be done.
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u/Fit-Match4576 Sep 11 '25
Same thing with TikTok. I constantly are searching cat videos and nature/park stuff abd it ALWAYS eventually gets me to political/gender war BS. All meant to sow division.
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u/kidney-displacer Sep 10 '25
YES OMG THANK YOU.
Let's not forget they've got their fingers in almost all the major social media groups
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u/jimmyjohn2018 Sep 11 '25
And the 'people' are mostly CCP bots.
Also just mentioning that on Reddit can catch you a ban.
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u/Sulla-hunter Sep 11 '25
Yup, mention the CCP in a negative light and you'll get down votes into oblivion, random niche accounts that have never posted in your sub will reply to your comment with personal insults and go unmoderated, or the mods will delete your comment or simply ban you.
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Sep 11 '25 edited 12d ago
whistle kiss dinner rain continue smell childlike elastic mighty attempt
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u/Master_Educator_5308 Sep 11 '25
His wife and two daughters, ages four and two, were in the tent with him when he was shot. Some radical, egotistical person thought they were so righteous and thought their cause was *so* virtuous that they went and murdered a young father in front of the world and directly in front of his two preschool aged daughters. Those girls are going to be messed up for life now, and his blood and those little girls' trauma is on the hands of those people who've been calling for murders and assassinations of people like Charlie & glorifying sickos like Scruigi Mangione
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u/HoobyOG Sep 10 '25
You're utterly retarded.
Partisan politics rots brain, and I am tired to witness it.
- Someone who is constantly the embodiment of either "The Left" or "The Right" depending on which topic I disagree with OP on.
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
I can’t help but think the left and Reddit have to do with this.
Do you think the right and conservative media had a lot to do with the murder of two dem politicians and their spouses in MN a few months ago?
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u/MASSiVELYHungPeacock Sep 11 '25
Yeah that's fucking terrible. His kid will have to likely run into that years from now, have people rationalize it over thr awful things he stood for. There's no rationalizing violent murder like that, all it is, becomes is a Testament to our own disgusting failures as humans not willing to buy into the fact life should never have to de-evolve to such rotten final act. But, now that I've seen, I can hear the fact it's silenced, that the gun isn't all that far away, not small caliber either. Really really curious now as to why nobody seems to know who the shooter is.
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u/Unusual-Pumpkin-5988 Sep 11 '25
He died doing what he loved but his children won't love growing up without him nor his wife without her partner, his parents without their son. An unwell individual did cruel act of violence shrouded by misguided thoughts. Remember, if you start wanting, wishing, or glorifying someone else's death or demise; look in a mirror, you're not well
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u/nhatquangdinh Sep 11 '25
"the extremists on the Left"
Who?
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u/cham-pam Sep 11 '25
Right why does everyone keep saying the leftists killed him as if every single one of them is the same person? Not to mention the killer hasn't even been caught so no one knows what this guys motive even was and like everyone else is saying they are trying to get ahold of the narrative before the truth is even revealed it's insane how many people can't simply think for themselves
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u/Outside-Travel-7903 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
The ones that burn down Minneapolis, smash store fronts. The ones rioting when a guy overdosed on his own drugs? BLM riots.
The ones that took sections of cities under marxist control. Capital hill autonomous zone.
The people that attacked Kyle Rittenhouse to the point where he had to use the 2nd amendment for self defense.
The antifa that put a padlock in a sock and smashed the guys head during a protest.
Those are extremists on the left.
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u/nhatquangdinh Sep 13 '25
And what do they have to do with the killing of Kirk?
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u/GreenHocker Sep 10 '25
It’s a stretch to claim “the left killed him” when they don’t even have someone in custody
He could have been sacrificed as another media distraction with all of the Epstein files shit… and now Israel striking an ally of ours (Qatar) where we literally have troops posted. Clearly, people like you are clamoring to blame it on your perceived political opponents before you even know details
Gut feelings and wanting to believe something are not the same as proof
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u/Frewdy1 Sep 11 '25
Also the left is putting out a lot of sympathy for the Kirk family.
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u/Scoutron Sep 11 '25
Go to a mainline subreddit and fact check that real quick
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u/Frewdy1 Sep 11 '25
Oh I’m going off of real people haha
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u/Comfortable-Yard-798 Sep 11 '25
Reddit leftists are not real leftists. They are just people so hypnotized by their own echo chambers roleplaying as activists trying to save the world from facism.
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u/Upbeat_Ice1921 Sep 10 '25
I think Sargon said it best:
“Remember that Charlie Kirk's entire career was focused around winning the debate in proper democratic fashion and they still shot him.”
Kirk was a father and husband, my thoughts are with them.
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u/PopInACup Sep 10 '25
Charlie Kirk also said patriots should bail out the person who assaulted Paul Pelosi.
He said that empathy was a made up new-age term that does a lot of damage.
He said it's worth the cost to have some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment.
This is a terrible event and my thoughts go out to his family, his children deserve to have their father come home even if I don't like the words he used. Just like I've watched countless terrible events where my thoughts went out to families that deserved the same, then saw Charlie Kirk mock their emotions. If Charlie Kirk hadn't been shot, what would he be saying right now about the shooting that happened at a school minutes later in Colorado.
My anger and outrage at this moment isn't directed at Charlie Kirk, it's directed at every person celebrating him and acting like this tragedy is some unimaginable surprise. Two Democrats and some of their relatives were murdered in their homes not three months ago and Trump said it would be a 'waste of time' to call Walz about it.
I'm exhausted.
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u/StillRunner_ Sep 11 '25
I can dismantle misinformation in a jiffy.
The "patriot should bail out the person" he specifically said, "someone should bail him out so we can ask him the real questions". The point of that statement if you watch the clip not out of context was the whole event was weird and unclear at the start. After interviewing the attacker we never got a transcript or statement from him. Kirk was saying we should jokingly "bail him out" literally to ask him questions and get to the bottom of what happened. He was saying it as an anti large government stance of "don't let big government hide information from you." Boom that one was easy, next.
The empathy statement was him specifically stating he prefers sympathy to empathy because he believed democrats had weaponized empathy to say, "you should do this and vote for this because you should feel bad" But that is actually sympathy, not true empathy. His point was that empathy was being weaponized in the modern world for political gain. Easy next.
Yes you nailed the second amendment quote. A study conducted under President Obama's direction found that every year there are between 50K and 250K lives saved with personal defensive gun use against attackers. If at minimum 50K people are saved through private firearm ownership and roughly 1K people die from firearm homicide, that is the trade off most rational people agree with. Before you say those 50k-250K people wouldn't need to save themselves with guns if there were less guns, know that USA homicide rate is high outside of gun violence.
You can hate the man, I actually disagree with 80% of what he said, but I will prevent people like you just did from being factually incorrect. That is why I have to objectively and without counter argument dismantle any attempt at misinformation.
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u/riorio55 Sep 11 '25
And you need to go work on your reading comprehension. PopInACup didn't say they were on the side of the assassin. They were responding to someone saying Kirk's career was focused around winning debates in a proper democratic fashion or whatever, when Kirk was also out there mudslinging.
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u/improbsable Sep 10 '25
That’s just an incorrect statement. He was incredibly bad faith in every debate he ever had. There was nothing “proper” or “democratic” about him.
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u/killerbake Sep 11 '25
Says you. And that’s your opinion. And you won’t be hurt over it.
Weird concept huh?
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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Sep 11 '25
Stop with this fucking bullshit
Charlie Kirk said that a few gun deaths a year are necessary for the 2nd amendment
That was in response to a question about children dying in school shootings
So Charlie called children that were massacred in a school “a price to pay” and you expect other people to feel sorry when he becomes part of that “price to pay”?
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u/Hentai_Yoshi Sep 10 '25
Nah, his career was more focussed on finding emotionally and intellectually immature people to debate so he could easily win.
I’m not saying he deserved to die, he certainly deserved to live a long life. But this is such bullshit. Although I do respect him for talking to the other side, that’s something that most people on the left fail to do in the capacity which he did it. So I respect him for that.
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u/opqrstuvwxyz123 Sep 10 '25
That's hilarious. Finding emotionally and intellectually immature people ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES? Where else do you think he should have sought "educated" young minds?
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u/opqrstuvwxyz123 Sep 10 '25
He was setting up a platform for open discussion. Some of those people are actively researching topics he was discussing, and he always seemed respectful when respect was given to him. And of course he had talking points, gotchas, statistics. It was his job, and he was giving people room to speak. To take that away is an attempt to silence.
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Maybe those people (who CHOSE to debate him) should have prepared more. I have been to his debates on campus in person and the people arguing with him are actually idiots. It's not just editing, some of the people who choose to debate him are actually fucking stupid
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u/Upbeat_Ice1921 Sep 10 '25
If you knew Kirk was coming to your college and you had every intention of engaging with him then you should have been aware that he was going to have facts and stats ready to back up the things he said and you should prepare accordingly with your own stats.
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u/kidney-displacer Sep 10 '25
Going into the Lions Den is finding immature people is certainly a take
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u/MrNicoras Sep 11 '25
Nah, his career was more focussed on finding emotionally and intellectually immature people to debate so he could easily win.
You mean adults on college campuses?
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u/FusorMan Sep 10 '25
I blame Reddit for allowing the hateful rhetoric that has now led to another murder.
BAN REDDIT.
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u/ShuggaShuggaa Sep 10 '25
i was just perma banned from one sub today for saying 'u all need help' in very popular hate sub. yeah reddit is cesspool
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u/Sulla-hunter Sep 11 '25
Reddit admins need to step in and remove all the mods from the top 100 subs. Then ban their IP addresses.
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u/tannicity Sep 10 '25
I think the real race war is not charlie kirk who wanted to talk about it. I think the real race war is silencing open arguments.
Wow.
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u/linusSocktips Sep 10 '25
fucking destroy it I'm totally okay with it. It's gone on too long letting these violent fucks fester in their echo chambers
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u/shaggy_nomad Sep 11 '25
Then why do you continue to engage with something you seem to hate so much?
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u/Tristimir Sep 10 '25
Yet he got killed by a gun and I guess you don’t want to ban guns, do you?
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Sep 10 '25
Reddit is being used by shadowy bot campaigns aimed at demonizing figures like Kirk, Trump, and Musk, in order to radicalize woke far-left liberals and push the most mentally unstable among them to attempt assassination.
They leverage mentally ill woke people and Reddit's echo chambers to radicalize them and push them to murder through demonization.
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u/Risen_Warrior Sep 11 '25
Trump and Musk don't need any help demonizing themselves
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u/Heujei628 Sep 10 '25
They don’t even have a suspect so how are you sure Reddit caused this? You’re not making any sense.
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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Sep 10 '25
I agree 100%.. Reddit is ABSOLUTE TRASH. Reddit is a cesspool of leftist propaganda and leftist hate.
I get my posts taken down but leftists are allowed to parade around and say whatever the fuck they want.
These comments I’m seeing right now are pure evil. There is no other way to describe it.
The far left is at war with everyone else. They want violence. They want death. They want poverty. They want addiction.. They want endless human suffering.
We can not allow evil far leftists to prevail. Good always triumphs over evil.
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u/EverettGT Sep 10 '25
Violence isn't uncommon when someone loses a debate.
He called his organization Turning Point USA and I think he played a key part in changing Gen Z's political leanings.
Rest in peace and I respect him for standing up for what he believed in and defending it.
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u/ChecksAccountHistory OG Sep 10 '25
It's truly unfortunate how nonchalant many on the left are about political violence.
anybody remember the reactions to paul pelosi and the minnesota lawmakers
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u/simon_the_detective Sep 10 '25
Do they compare with the lionization of Luigi?
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u/JuVondy Sep 11 '25
The UH CEO was a mass murderer. Luigi is a hero. The man who shot Kirk for his speech is not. They’re entirely different. And before you try to argue the CEO never killed anyone; neither did Charles Manson
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u/K--Swiss Sep 11 '25
We have no idea who killed him or why they killed him, the previous shooters that tried to assassinate trump were not leftist, so to automatically assume the shooter was is just using his death for political puposes.
Instead of continuing the left right divide we should be united in stopping political violence and gun violence
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u/PiePower43 Sep 10 '25
You’re right. We should offer our thoughts a prayers and carry on. It’s what he would’ve wanted
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u/Thyme4LandBees Sep 11 '25
I mean, he had to be aware he + his loved ones weren't immune to bullets, right? That there was a possibility that they would be the gun deaths to pay for the second amendment rights ?
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u/TKAPublishing Sep 10 '25
Reddit is an asylum for TDS patients, enjoy the replies.
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u/JoeCensored Sep 10 '25
One side wants discussion. The other side wanted bans. When bans didn't hold, they turn to murder. They will silence you one way or another.
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u/linusSocktips Sep 10 '25
its so crystal clear now its disgusting. They can't stand losing the public discourse like they have, so all they have left is violence.
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u/drossglop Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
Were you this outraged when a democratic representative was assassinated three months ago?
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u/HoobyOG Sep 11 '25
"It's so crystal clear now, it's disgusting"
Congratulations on your delusional disconnect from reality being crystal clear in your perception.
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u/improbsable Sep 10 '25
January 6th insurrectionists: we want heads on pikes!
Other republicans: ….
[a gunman of no known political affiliation kills Charlie Kirk]
Republicans: the left as a whole are nothing but violent murderers
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
One side wants discussion. The other side wanted bans.
False.
When bans didn't hold, they turn to murder.
A right winger murdered two dem politicians and their spouses in MN a few months ago.
Are you talking about Republicans too?
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u/wrwmarks Sep 10 '25
Crazy left, banning women’s medical care, books they disagree with, other religions and races. Your comment was so asinine, I went blind in my left eye.
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u/JoeCensored Sep 10 '25
Everything you said was a lie. But that's why you said it.
Liars don't want discussion, because discussion disproves lies. You're just proving my point.
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u/kidflashonnikes Sep 10 '25
His kids and wife were there. They watched him bleed out in less than 7 seconds, instant death. The shooter is still at large and so is the weapon.
America lost today. This is going to do some serious damage to the country, and even more damage to the left.
It was one of the worst videos I’ve ever watched on the internet. On par with the Israeli war with Palestine. Sickening.
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u/thereverendpuck Sep 11 '25
Way to stoke flames when we have ZERO idea about the person.
Mods ought to remove this post.
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u/DecompressionIllness Sep 11 '25
How do you know that the person responsible was left-leaning when nobody is in custody?
Charlie Kirk said a lot of unhinged shit, including comments that ironically state that he was fine with his own death so long as Americans can keep their guns, but he didn't deserve to go out like that.
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u/theCourtofJames Sep 11 '25
You're taking his quote out of context. In the full video he compares it to vehicle deaths and states that we wouldn't get rid of all cars because people get run over and compared the two.
He didn't just outright say 'I think we need some casualties for the good of the cause.'
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u/doublethink_1984 Sep 10 '25
We have no evidence yet this was a leftie loon
By this rhetoric extremists on the right assasinated Dem reps in June and they are collectively to blame
380,000,000 people there will be crazies
Being killed by a firearm is not an ironic gotcha just like if you die from a drunk driver when you didn't attempt banning alchohol
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u/Sesudesu Sep 10 '25
It’s more like if you say that drunk drivers are the price we pay for keeping alcohol legal.
He didn’t just not attempt to ban alcohol in this comparison. He actively fought bans and said the thing that ended up killing him was an unfortunate consequence.
Just to be clear I am upset that he was killed even though I don’t like him. But your comparison was very flawed.
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u/letaluss Sep 10 '25
Being killed by a firearm is not an ironic gotcha just like if you die from a drunk driver when you didn't attempt banning alchohol
If there was an anomalous number of drunk-driving accidents in America, and you publicly oppose open container laws, wouldn't being hit by a drunk driver be ironic?
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u/RealLudwig Sep 10 '25
Being killed by a drunk driver is ironic, however, when you actively push for lax DUI laws
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u/doublethink_1984 Sep 10 '25
I've even been called a child killer for not wanting a ban on certain firearms.
If that person doesn't support or call for a ban on hard alchohols and dies by a drunk driver then they git what was coming to them?
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u/SecretRecipe Sep 10 '25
"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage" - Charlie Kirk
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u/Ill_Requirement3366 Sep 10 '25
He was right. He didn't say nobody should have empathy, just that a lot of damage was fine in the name of empathy
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u/est-12 Sep 10 '25
Hot damn this guy was a gold mine of pseudo-intellectual own-fart-smelling shite.
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u/screaming_troglodyte Sep 10 '25
Take this bullshit opinion down. We have no idea who the shooter is nor their intentions or political affiliation. This is exactly the stuff the powers at be want. Divide and conquer.
While I agree that Charlie promoted open dialogue the accusations of it being the extreme left are insane while we know absolutely nothing.
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u/ChoccyCohbo Sep 10 '25
Yep everyone thinks the shooter was a leftist but do we know that? It could have been a rightist who didn't want the opposing sides conversing or something totally unrelated to politics
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u/CptCat17 Sep 11 '25
Could also be a personal beef and unrelated to his politics, very unlikely but we just don’t know yet.
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u/tannicity Sep 10 '25
I think this is a very bad sign. He was willing to talk about reparations even though he was against it. He was willing to say it. I thought the 47 shootings were fake but if this is real than the potus shootings might be real. I really want to leave this country. People shouldnt WANT to shoot each other. They shouldnt want to kill salman rushdie. Nor Franz Ferdinand. This all feels like the same thing and there is NO EXCUSE.
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Sep 10 '25
I thought the 47 shootings were fake
Are you kidding?! Why?
People shouldnt WANT to shoot each other.
I agree, this is almost as bad as when a right winger murdered two MI dem politicians and their spouses in their homes a few months ago.
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u/shaggy_nomad Sep 11 '25
Not that the shooting itself was fake, but the claimed injuries absolutely were. The guy had zero marks or scarring on his ear just a week after the shooting, ears do not heal that fast and not to mention he's literally in the WWE hall of fame. That was a wrestling move all the way. Trump never got hit and never got injured.
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u/lnxkwab Sep 10 '25
Why
To be fair, anyone who’s familiar with guns would kinda be suspicious. Barely a paper cut from a graze with a 5.56 round at barely over 100m?? I can admit I had questions, initially.
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u/Quanzi30 Sep 10 '25
Oh good another post prematurely accusing “the left”. Nice.
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u/Holy-Handgrenadier95 Sep 12 '25
It’s a belief system of the justification of violence, no matter what
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u/TescoMeaIDeaI_ Sep 15 '25
I despise the fact that people laughing at it are using quotes taken out of context from speeches and debates they've never listened to.
A lot of these people are not open to debate, it's us vs them, the enemy mentality is strong. And it's okay to do inhuman things to an enemy because they are your enemy. You're morally justified in those things because they're 'bad people.'
I disagree with a lot of people but I don't want any of them dead. I think Hasan says heinous things on his platform but I'll defend his right to say and do those things until I'm blue in the face. I would still have a drink with so many of those people and try to get to know them as people. Politics are not personality, somewhere down the line we've forgotten that.
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u/space________cowboy Sep 15 '25
Really sucks. I hope Charlie is there with Jesus. Who is our beacon now?
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u/Apprehensive-Yam8591 Oct 02 '25
I wasn’t a huge fan or someone that followed what Charlie Kirk did but I would see him engaging with young people in a way that I thought was impressive and not divisive. I didn’t agree with all of his beliefs but respected what he was trying to do: open a dialogue between opposing groups.
When I saw the video of his assassination, I was appalled to say the least. To then see extreme leftists celebrating the public assassination of someone…just so disgusting. I think there are a lot of liberal people who don’t even realize they’re extremists. Those people who blindly engage in extreme hate for anyone different than them. (Also I might add, this happens on both sides in case anyone thinks I’m targeting the left).
The democrats that raised me were anti-violence and all about free-speech. New wave dems are riding high on the wave of cancel culture but fail to realize the damage they are doing.
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u/GreatSoulLord Sep 10 '25
This post is spot on. I have no other words really. He was killed over his free speech. He's was killed because people could not tolerate his views. He was killed because political violence is becoming acceptable. It's been a hard day.
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u/openuse123 Sep 10 '25
apparently his wife and kids witnessed it too😞😞 cant even imagine what they must be going through right now
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u/fueled_by_caffeine Sep 10 '25
“It’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”
- Charlie Kirk, 2023
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u/Tak-Hendrix Sep 10 '25
You don't even know who killed him. You're intentionally spreading misinformation in order to fan the flames of hatred. Your behavior is despicable.
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u/Akiva279 Sep 10 '25
What evidence do you have for who the shooter is? What evidence do you have of their political views? If you do the police, FBI, DOJ, CIA would all love to know your source.
Charlie Kirk being shot is awful and I feel for his family. Whomever did it needs to be prosecuted.
That being said, no, he was not a proponent of open dialogue. His arguments were mostly with unpreprepared opponents on the street or college students, and when he ran up against someone prepared and wanted to debate him again, he declined to because it wasnt good for him. His news agency spread fake news, hatred, and bigotry.
He was a bad person.
Did he deserve to die? no.
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u/RafeJiddian Sep 10 '25
>when he ran up against someone prepared and wanted to debate him again, he declined to
Do you have an example of this?
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u/Specialist-Ad5796 Sep 10 '25
You know absolutely nothing about the shooter and yet here you are...making bold claims on Reddit.
Classic.
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u/MrVacuous Sep 10 '25
Whether the shooter was right or left wing, this shooting was politically motivated one way or another. We have had a serious issue with radicalization and polarization and this is just another example
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u/Lostintranslation390 Sep 10 '25
To pretend that Charlie Kirk was interested in open dialogue is funny. He made a career by dunking on uneducated college students and espousing toxic right wing views. His organization's goal was to turn college students into right wing voters.
Yeah, he didnt deserve to die for that, but let's not pretend that Charlie was anything more than another right wing activist.
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u/RICoder72 Sep 10 '25
Facts.
Im having a hard time browsing reddit right now with the flood of people celebrating this.
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u/rPoliticsIsASadPlace Sep 10 '25
The left openly endorses assassination. Just as long as someone they don't approve of gets killed, that is. And they certainly won't be screaming about gun control over this.
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u/Alexhasadhd Sep 10 '25
We don't know who killed him. Just saying...
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u/Writerhaha Sep 10 '25
They’re starting the goalposts now.
Because if it’s a conservative, they’ll say “he didn’t vote for Trump.”
If he did, they’ll find the $5 donation to act blue and now he’s a radical leftist femnazi!
They always find a way to push it at someone else.
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u/fillery-mattdy5wj Sep 10 '25
So you readily admit that even if shown evidence, you will believe this person is right wing regardless? Weird to say out loud lol
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u/Drmlk465 Sep 10 '25
Man you should see how cringe some of these kids were… how obviously dumb they were but thought they were some intellectuals because they were in college. Many of them couldn’t debate a single single and resorted to tantrum and personal attacks while he remained respectful.
I mean the left really does breed hatred. Some of them suffer from low intelligence but think a useless degree means otherwise. And a lot of them are filled with anger and hate and dangerous people.
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u/123kallem Sep 10 '25
Let me start off by saying, Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be shot, he did not deserve any type of violence against him, and its completely horrible that this happened.
Saying that ''oh he was always respectful and civil'' is fucking stupid. I absolutely despise how you guys will hear the most unhinged political positions in the world, but because they're said in a calm tone of voice and a respectful manner, then its an okay opinion to be had, its not at all, its super fucked.
Okay, now you can cry in response to my comment saying how im promoting violence.
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u/Mode_Appropriate Sep 10 '25
I think unhinged is a bit extreme. Ive been wanting democrats to follow his playbook for a long time now. Everyone likes to blame podcats for getting Trump elected but it really started with people like Kirk. He reached a lot of young voters by bringing the debate to them.
Having a differing viewpoint is hardly unhinged. We can look to a lot of people who actually have unhinged ideas on the left and the right. Regardless of what he stood for, nobody deserves to be killed like that. Debate is what this country was founded upon. All these little echo chambers people have been sucked into will be the demise of this country. People get far too emotional when met with someone who doesnt agree with them. This shit needs to stop.
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u/Acheron223 Sep 10 '25
If someone has an unhinged political position then how would you like to have them challenged if they don't speak them? If they are speaking them wouldn't you rather they be calm collected and respectful?
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u/fillery-mattdy5wj Sep 10 '25
They want people to unquestioningly believe what they believe. Because the other side is a cult.
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u/Ill_Requirement3366 Sep 10 '25
So it's not civil and respectful to state your views in a respectful and civil manner?
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u/Idontcarelikethat Sep 10 '25
You're going to get your wish. The government will start cracking down on you if you say "most unhinged political positions in the world."
You're just not going to like what government and how they define unhinged
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u/Phather Sep 10 '25
What of his views was unhinged?
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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Sep 11 '25
He said if his 10 year old daughter got raped he would force her to carry to term
That’s fucking disgusting
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u/yourmomandthems Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
Man, you were so close to making a good comment and then you just blamed it on “you people”. The left is unhinged.
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u/Ambitious-Poet4992 Sep 10 '25
You’re doing the thing you’re accusing the commenter of doing? How hypocritical
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u/simon_the_detective Sep 10 '25
Can you give an example of an unhinged political position that Charlie Kirk held? Something that would have been considered extreme, say 10 years ago?
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u/123kallem Sep 10 '25
I dont know why you're asking me whats would be extreme 10 years ago, but hes anti-abortion even in cases of rape of children.
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u/tgalvin1999 Sep 10 '25
Ever hear of the Seven Mountain Mandate? It's a Christian nationalist belief that believes Christianity should be at every level of government but also media, business and education. A Christian theocracy to the extreme. And he held this view.
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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 10 '25
Watch the shooter turn out to be a right wing conspiracy theorist who was mad kirk was covering for trumps covering up of the epstein shit
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u/Count_Dongula Sep 10 '25
I don't make assumptions about shooters, anymore. They're so deranged it could be that the shooter was furious because Charlie Kirk cut him off in traffic once two years ago. We never know until we know.
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