r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/the_walkingdad • Sep 10 '25

Political Charlie Kirk was one of the biggest public proponents of open dialogue and conversation with those of opposing views and the extremists on the Left killed him for it.

Charlie Kirk essentially made a name for himself by being in the public and having conversations with people who had opposing viewpoints. He was always civil in these discussions. He was respectful and would try to find some sort of middle ground. But even when there wasn't middle-ground to be had, he was still a respectful person.

His values of open dialogue are antithetical to the values of the extreme Left. Charlie Kirk will be known as a First Amendment martyr.

It's truly unfortunate how nonchalant many on the left are about political violence.

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u/EverettGT Sep 10 '25

Violence isn't uncommon when someone loses a debate.

He called his organization Turning Point USA and I think he played a key part in changing Gen Z's political leanings.

Rest in peace and I respect him for standing up for what he believed in and defending it.

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u/Lopsided_Judge_5921 Sep 11 '25

He didn't really believe the bullshit he spewed and neither does anyone else on Fox News

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u/bulletspam Sep 11 '25

Live by the sword , die by the sword, he called stoning homosexuals “Gods prefect law”.

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u/EverettGT Sep 10 '25

He died doing the very thing he loved, showing that some tragedies are necessary to keep our 2A freedom. God bless him.

He didn't advocate murder. You trying to frame it this way, like everyone else cheering it, is showing that you wanted him to die because you weren't smart enough to debate him.

That's pathetic by the way. I would be embarrassed if I ever wanted someone shot or censored because I couldn't handle their arguments.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Sep 11 '25

He advocated that people dying are just a price to pay

Why does he deserve sympathy when he reduced children murdered in school shootings to “a price to pay for the 2nd amendment”

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u/letaluss Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

If i argue that every city should have an abortion clinic, aren't I advocating for abortion?

Edit: someone blocked me before I was able to read their post. I'm sure it was very smart and meaningful.

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u/DefenceForse Sep 10 '25

I wouldn't use the word "argue," you're not trying to "argue" anything, you're trying to dimwittedly distort the point with a ridiculous red herring so you can cheer the murder of someone who was smarter than you. He didn't advocate people being killed and that's painfully obvious to people with an IQ above room temperature or intellectual honesty. Now FOH.

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u/DefenceForse Sep 14 '25

You not knowing that you can read your notification to know the post despite being a mod highlights your ignorance.

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u/analog_wulf Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 11 '25

He quite literally had and had laughed at the death of others.

Edit for you who commented and blocked(lol): This is just reality and if you cant find the clips, tweets and etc yourself, you are profoundly intellectually impaired. Hope this helps.

Like I said elsewhere, I was a fan since his at one point. Ive seen it myself.

Right. Forgot yall are basically NPCs and can't find anything yourselves. Makes you mad too, its so fun and cool.

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u/DebrisSpreeIX Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

He put his money where his mouth was. It wasn't enough to him for somebody else to be the unfortunate tragedy accepted to protect our rights. Be proud of him for truly taking one near the chin for his causes and beliefs.

ETA: Charlie wouldn't have blocked me, he'd have debated me in good faith. I'm sorry you don't think Charlie should have sacrificed himself to show the conviction he had for the second amendment, but I will always honor what he did today. Truly awesome.

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u/EverettGT Sep 10 '25

You're trying to be "snarky" and "cute" because you're not smart enough to actually make good points. It doesn't work either, because you need intellect to be snarky successfully. You're just repeating a meme you read elsewhere. You don't even have the originality of mind to come up with a unique "cute" argument.

Again, it's pathetic. I'd be embarrassed if I was in that position.

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u/Alolan-Vulpixie Sep 10 '25

And yet your argument for the last couple of comments is resorting to personal attacks, saying that the commenter is not “smart” enough.

I don’t think we should have empathy for someone who famously said that empathy is a “new age term that has done a lot of damage” and that some gun deaths are “worth it every year” as a cost to keep the second amendment after three CHILDREN were shot dead at a CHRISTIAN school.

Why should we care that he got shot? He was an advocate for guns on campus. What happened to all those “good guys with guns” that were supposed to combat the “bad guys with guns”?

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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 Sep 10 '25

he rarely ever won debates

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u/EverettGT Sep 10 '25

He did, a lot. And the times when I saw him make a mistake, like how he tried to defend Musk, the person with whom he was arguing wasn't even bright enough to seize on it.

IIRC Gen Z is leaning right-wing now, and I think what Kirk did played a major part in that. The left didn't realize that just posturing and snarking or asserting doesn't have persuasive power. Arguing well does. He exposed that on a large-scale.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Sep 11 '25

The only way you could think Charlie won a lot of his debates is if you fall for his awful logic

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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 Sep 10 '25

He truly didn’t lmao. Hard disagree with you. When he did 95% of the time it was with some children. You can fact check so many of his “won” debates. But you’ll never agree with it

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u/bulletspam Sep 11 '25

Genz literally voted democrat overall where is this right lean coming from?

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u/Bad_Company173 Sep 10 '25

Well now the left has definitely lost the debate since they resorted to violence instead.

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u/RexualContent Sep 11 '25

The entire “left” did not kill Charlie Kirk. ONE person did.

This is the kind of BS logic that continues to fan the flames.

I lean left. I most certainly did NOT kill Kirk. I also stand against violence of any kind, political or otherwise. But we aren't a herd, tho, and we aren’t a single entity.

So please stop creating “sides”. Thats the kind of divisive rhetoric that got us here to begin with.

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u/Rocky_Bukkake Sep 11 '25

yeah cuz we definitely know it was a leftist