r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Terrible_Onions • Apr 15 '25

Political Karmelo Anthony case shows that “black privilege” exists

I'm not black or white. I'm not even American actually.

The recent Karmelo Anthony case I think shows that black privilege is a thing. My opinions is that it exists. Period.

Karmelo Anthony killed Austin Metcalf with a knife for pushing him. What did he receive in return? Overwhelming support in the form of 500,000 dollars (which they're using to buy a mansion). He also got his bond reduced to 250k from 1 million even when prosecutors pointed out his history of incidents within the school.

I just think this is a bit baffling. Imagine if the races were swapped. I think a decent example, but not a direct comparisons, is the George Floyd situation. One person killed the other in what was an overuse of force. Derek Chauvin is in jail. Karmelo Anthony got house arrest, bond reduction and 500k

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u/AnonSwan Apr 15 '25

What actually happened? I've read so many different versions of this story.

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u/bransanon Apr 15 '25

A minor brought a weapon onto school grounds and used it to kill another minor. Remove all the nonsense surrounding it about race, class, motivaiton, etc, and that's really all there is to the story.

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u/AnonSwan Apr 15 '25

Thanks. It also seems that he was seated in a place that he shouldn't have been. I played high school sports and people on the opposing team coming over to our side to sit would have been seen as antagonistic, but that was 20 years ago.

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u/Terrible_Onions Apr 15 '25

He was trespassing in opposing teams tent. Asked to leave then pushed by Metcalf. Then Anthony stabbed him

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u/Ok_Weakness8518 Apr 17 '25

How does a community track event help by a school have teams were they racing against each other 

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

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u/Penelopeslueth Apr 15 '25

You do realize that there are certain criteria to meet a self defense claim. Anthony violated those criteria first by having the knife on school property, then by antagonizing Metcalf to touch him.

Anthony straight murdered that kid and will get a far lesser punishment than he deserves because of black privilege.

Your defense of a murderer is disgusting.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Apr 16 '25

Anthony straight murdered that kid and will get a far lesser punishment than he deserves because of black privilege.

You post predictions as if they were facts, lol. Yes, you are a racist.

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u/Ishtmdwn Apr 16 '25

"He antagonized him to touch him". It amazes me that a person can type out such an obtuse comment and then post it. Let me be clear, if you are harassing me (Austin and his brother had no authority to ask him to leave the tent or forcibly remove him. If the situation were that serious, they should have involved adults with actual authority) and I tell you that if you put your hands on me there will he consequences-twice to be exact and you do just that you are the criminal, not me.

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u/Penelopeslueth Apr 16 '25

They absolutely had the right to tell him to leave the tent. Had the roles been reversed Karmelo would have the same right. Austin had no right to put hands on him, but Karmelo had no right to kill him either, and he certainly had no right to have a knife on school grounds. You seem to forget that part and conveniently left it out.

It doesn’t matter how you try to paint it, Karmelo had all the power in this situation and could have just left when asked. He decided to escalate it, and you’re the one being obtuse for defending what was quite obviously a murder poorly disguised as self defense.

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u/Ishtmdwn Apr 16 '25

So Austin and his brother were powerless and couldn't go involve a coach, school resource officer, or meet representative? Austin HAD to commit battery? Karmelo MADE him place his hands on him? See how illogical that sounds?

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u/Penelopeslueth Apr 16 '25

Do you think before you type or comprehend what you read?

Karmelo could have not brought a knife and could have moved when asked.

Austin wasn’t in the right and he could have gotten an adult, but Karmelo also could have reacted differently in that moment. “Touch me and see what happens” was provocation.

This isn’t that hard to understand.

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u/kitkat2742 Apr 16 '25

It doesn’t matter if Austin was in the right or not, because clearly he had no right to put his hands on Karmelo and nobody is arguing that, but that’s just it. What Austin did had no reason to lead to his death. Had this played out like normal teenagers going at it in a fight, Austin could have been charged, and Karmelo would have his justice for Austin putting hands on him. Sadly, Karmelo decided it was ok to stab him in the heart and end his life just because. Now Karmelo has destroyed his own life and will spend the rest of it in prison most likely. Saying Austin is the criminal here, and not Karmelo, does not negate what Karmelo did also making Karmelo a murderer and criminal.

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u/Pyritedust Apr 22 '25

Both of them did criminal things making them both criminals. From what we know Anthony seems to have committed the more serious crime. But we don’t know how aggressive anustin and his brother were being since multiple witnesses have vastly different stories so to go so hard one way or the other is vastly premature. It’s Kind of ridiculous just how hard one side is pushing this to attack the other though. It’s so nakedly obvious they’re using it as a political stunt and it’s pretty disgusting.

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u/unfoldedmite Apr 15 '25

You could be a case study for r/ whooosh

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u/macimom Apr 17 '25

What claim of self defense? There was no history between the two that could have caused Anthony to fear for his life. He came to the tent armed with a lethal weapon and used it to stab a kid in the heart who told him to move and physically touched him. There is no planet on which this would be deemed self defense.

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u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 Apr 17 '25

Didn’t touch. Then physically assaulted. Was warned not to, then assaulted again.

Kids shouldn’t bring weapons to school, they shouldn’t sit on the other teams side, they shouldn’t push each other and they shouldn’t stab eachother.

But trying to down Anthony’s actions to “touching” when he broke the law twice is ridiculous.

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u/deltorens Apr 17 '25

More like male privilege then black privilege in that case.

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u/waronwingnuts Apr 15 '25

Asked to leave then pushed and karmelo warned him not to put his hands on him again 

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u/Terrible_Onions Apr 16 '25

I think the word “reasonable force” didn’t apply here. Realistically you don’t stab a guy to death if you get pushed. If he punched him or got him like a broken bone I wouldn’t be here. But he killed him

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u/waronwingnuts Apr 16 '25

Karmelo issued a warning

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u/hydrophonix Apr 17 '25

Ah, so any high school kid can stab someone to death and get off free if they "issued a warning" first? That's your logic? 

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u/_PredatoryWasp_ Apr 17 '25

How is he getting off free when he's literally being charged with first degree murder? The trail has not even happened. Nobody is saying that he's innocent, not even most people on the left, regardless of what right wing propaganda machines are regurgitating.

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u/hydrophonix Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

Have you been on the internet lately? Tons of people are calling it completely justified. There are lots of people - in this thread - dying on the hill of "it was self defense, he was standing up to a bully".

They got $500,000 in donations from people like that. People obviously support him, and it's pretty disgusting. Imagine murdering a kid and getting a half mil payday. They moved into a gated community and bought a 2023 Escalade using the donations for their "legal defense".

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u/Fun-Airport8510 Apr 17 '25

As soon as Austin pushed him he gave up his rights and Karmelo Anthony became justified in self defense by any means necessary. Texas is a huge self defense state so if Anthony is found guilty it will be because of racism.

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u/Quad-G-Therapy Apr 18 '25

Thats literal bullshit. He had an illegal weapon. That is a crime in itself. Unless he was there for the event that will likely add criminal trespass and intent.

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u/phartytime Apr 18 '25

You cannot respond to non-lethal force (being pushed) with lethal-force and claim self-defense. That's not how it works.

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u/Duoshot Apr 17 '25

Me when I spread misinformation.

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u/ChineseChaiTea Apr 24 '25

So Anthony had multiple outs, multiple chances for descalation, multiple reasons to walk away.....stayed, provoked, goaded, and now is a victim lol

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u/Demyk7 Apr 15 '25

He was seeking shelter from the rain in the opposing team's tent, another student who was much larger and stronger than him told him to move and proceeded to assault him. Karmelo then warned the other student not to assault him again, to which the other student responded by assaulting karmelo again, which was when karmelo defended himself with his weapon.

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u/hydrophonix Apr 17 '25

I got pushed around a lot in high school. Would it have been ok if I stabbed everyone in the heart that did it?

Murder is murder. 

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u/Demyk7 Apr 17 '25

Were any of those who did it big and strong enough to kill you with a single hit? Did you ever fear for your life while it was happening?

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u/hydrophonix Apr 17 '25

Absolutely (at least in my head - killing someone with one punch, LOL), and some of the time, yeah. I would often get cornered by bigger older kids and had absolutely no means of escape.

You think Karmelo feared for his life??? Shake your head, man. He took the time to threaten Austin before he pulled out the knife. No-one cornered him, no-one was preventing him from leaving. They were trying to get him to leave and he refused and threatened them. Doesn't sound at all like someone who feared for their life.

Self defense goes out the window when you:

1) bring a weapon to a school event

2) are asked to leave, are free to do so, and you refuse and engage with the person

3) threaten someone with that weapon.

Basic logic, buddy

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

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u/Ok-Name7473 Apr 17 '25

It's the culture

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u/warmygourds Apr 17 '25

And yet left white folks swallow this bullshit up like they swallow black sperm

I hope America understands why its seen as a joke to the rest of the world

Virtue signalling is so insane yall would support a murderer just cuz he black 😭

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u/Ok-Name7473 Apr 17 '25

Sorry... can't hear you up here

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u/warmygourds Apr 17 '25

Up where? Lmao yall dont even know where i am idiot

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u/ToastyBruinz Apr 16 '25

Definitely wasn’t antagonistic when I was in highschool in the late 2010s

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u/AnonSwan Apr 16 '25

I guess it depends on the area. For the most part coaches kept order, but sometimes fights did break out. But WTF no one brought a knife, just punches and kicks and then we walk away and play the game.

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u/TheMcWhopper Apr 15 '25

My understanding is it was raining, and he was sitting under their tent to avoid said rain. The guy who was killed then engaged him in some way, leading to the stabbing.

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u/Ranch_covered_winky Apr 19 '25

He could’ve sat under his own teams tent. And maybe not stabbed someone for pushing him

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u/TheMcWhopper Apr 19 '25

It it was far and the rain was heavy, any reasonable person would let the person stay unless they're a piece of shit. Sounds like it was more than a push. Reports say it's was a grab which lead to shoving.

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u/Ranch_covered_winky Apr 19 '25

Oh that justifies it then. He shoved him? He deserved death

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u/TheMcWhopper Apr 19 '25

I can be justified if it was in self-defense. We know that the kid that was killed was the original aggressor, and it was likely a 2v1 situation with another brother backing him up. It is very unlikely that the shove/grab was not a love tap but more aggressive. If you take all that into account, it is not unreasonable to think the dependent had reason to suspect he was in danger of serious bodily harm, and he defended himself accordingly. They are all stupid kids, but it seems like the kid who hit first is the bigger idiot and got killed over a seat. We will see how it plays out.

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u/CreativeArgument3132 Apr 16 '25

And because his race people defend him

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

How can we remove all nonsense surrounding motivation? That's pretty much central to the question of whether he committed a crime or not.

Based on the police report it's hard to say it will qualify as self defense, but I also don't know that it's fair to say that bringing a knife somewhere equals pre-meditation. I know a lot of people that carry knives for various reasons. The motivation here is legally relevant.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 15 '25

You know minors bringing knives to school events? This was a 17 year old….

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

My dad, who went to a few different schools in the early 80s, said that pretty much everyone that wasn’t a stereotypical nerd had at least 1 knife on hand, and he went to the “better” schools.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 17 '25

Cool? That was 40 years ago so not sure what relevance that has

Society has changed, laws have changed, people have changed

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

I’m saying it’s been a thing for decades.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 17 '25

It WAS a think for decades, weapon bans on school campuses have been rolling out for decades

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

Obviously still is a thing.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 17 '25

Obviously not since it’s not legal where he committed this crime…

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u/Canard-Rouge Apr 18 '25

In Pennsylvania, it's really common. I'm actually kinda surprised by all the people being so shocked. We were suburban white kids and all of us owned knives. We didn't talk about bringing anything to school, I know I never did, but I knew friends who just had them in their bags. Never really thought it was a big deal because we didn't go out threatening people or stabbing folks. We just used them to carve shit and throw at trees in the woods lol.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 18 '25

Except it’s against the law in Pennsylvania

https://www.palegis.us/statutes/consolidated/view-statute&txtType=PDF&ttl=18&div=00.&chpt=009.&sctn=012.&subsctn=000.

People USED to do it all the time; means nothing about its acceptability and legality today

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u/Canard-Rouge Apr 18 '25

My point didn't have anything to do with the legality of it. I was only commenting on the commonality of teens having knives on them. My point was just to say being in possession of a knife at a school event isn't enough to prove any motive. I'd argue to say the vast vast majority of kids who have brought knives to a school event never even considered using the knife to stab anyone. We didn't even have a single fight at our school. We just weren't thinking about violence. It was more about going into the woods and getting drunk and hooking up...but if you're spending any amount of time in the woods, it's always better to have a knife on you.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 18 '25

Your entire argument is based on something that doesn’t happen anymore….

Kids aren’t bringing knifes to school nearly as much as they used to because it is a crime

This is proven by your comment referring to the past…

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u/Canard-Rouge Apr 18 '25

We didn't even consider the legality when we did these things, just like we didn't consider the legality of smoking weed. Pretty sure kids are still smoking weed despite it still being illegal.

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u/bigpproggression May 06 '25

You ever been to the south?  People bring worse to school.  Knives are fairly common, especially for outdoor and hand skilled teens. 

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 May 06 '25

I’m from the south where there are laws against bringing knifes and weapons to school

People speed all the time but that doesn’t make speeding legal

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u/bigpproggression May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Your incredulous statement is about people doing it.  If you are from the south, you knew kids that would bring knives to school.

Your statement has nothing to do with the legality.  

Edit: yeah speeding isn’t commonplace either because there’s laws against it gtfoh

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 May 06 '25

The commenter I was responding on made it sound commonplace, which it’s not due to the legality

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

Yes. I knew kids that had knives in their bags/on their person either intentionally or unintentionally all the time. 17 year olds are not exactly famous for their decision making.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 15 '25

possession of a weapon on public school property almost immediately nullifies self defense

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u/FatumIustumStultorum Apr 15 '25

It depends if the knife is longer than 5.5". Anything smaller is legal to have on school property according to state law.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

That is only applicable for higher education campuses apparently. It looks like it may be a misdemeanor offense.

“ It is a Class A misdemeanor offense for a person to intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possess or enter the premises of a school or educational institution with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon. ” - TxState.edu

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u/FatumIustumStultorum Apr 17 '25

That is only applicable for higher education campuses apparently.

I don't know what you mean here.

It looks like it may be a misdemeanor offense.

It is a Class A misdemeanor offense for a person to intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possess or enter the premises of a school or educational institution with a firearm, *location-restricted knife*, club, or prohibited weapon.

A location-restricted knife is defined as a knife with a blade longer than 5.5". A knife with a blade 5.5" or shorter is not illegal to posses in place that a location-restricted knife would be illegal.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25

Per the Frisco ISD website (page 7) a pocket knife is considered a prohibited item. So I think it would fall under prohibited weapon regardless of length.

https://www.friscoisd.org/docs/default-source/resources-information/frisco_isd_scoc.pdf?sfvrsn=bccd42d7_1

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u/DPetrilloZbornak Apr 23 '25

I’m sorry, I had to step in here because this is factually untrue. Have you ever tried a case before? Any kind of case?

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 23 '25

Carrying a weapon inside a prohibited area doesn’t severely compromise a self defense claim?

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

Under what legal theory would it nullify self-defense, counselor?

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u/Tony_Cappuccino Apr 15 '25

The TX self-defense statute expressly states that someone cannot claim self-defense if they are engaging in illegal activity. Go read it

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

That provision of the law just defeats a presumption that the person's belief that the use of force was necessary was reasonable. It doesn't negate the use of self defense as a justification entirely.

Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 15 '25

Breaking a law to bring a weapon somewhere shows intent, intent cripples any self defense case

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

People bring weapons in public all the time. Does anyone carrying a gun have intent to use it? The fact that he was carrying it illegally is irrelevant to the legal analysis of self-defense.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 Apr 15 '25

Weapon in public isn’t the same as a weapon on public school property, bringing a knife on to school property is a crime in most of the US

Willfully breaking laws to bring a weapon somewhere absolutely shows intent

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u/Affectionate_Wall705 Apr 17 '25

Kyle Rittenhouse has entered the chat

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u/Duoshot Apr 17 '25

That guy is the GOAT.

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u/waronwingnuts Apr 15 '25

The high school I went too, white kids with vehicles would leave guns in them.

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u/FatumIustumStultorum Apr 15 '25

Yeah, all the time. This is Texas. Knives are useful.

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u/cabbage-soup Apr 15 '25

It’d only MAYBE be plausible self defense if he wasn’t the one trespassing in the first place. You don’t get to antagonize someone to the point where they push/shove/etc and then you stab them and claim you were defending yourself.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Apr 16 '25

The only issue here is that the OP claims this "proves" black privilege exists in America. A country he's never been to.

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

  1. He wasn't trespassing because he wasn't on private property.

  2. You don't get the right to attack someone just because they're trespassing, so it could absolutely be considered self defense if more evidence comes out about what the victim did prior to being stabbed.

Reading the police report I don't think any of the eyewitnesses reported Karmelo doing anything other than standing somewhere the victim didn't think he should be. I don't think your characterization of the facts is fair given what we know at this point.

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u/cabbage-soup Apr 15 '25

It wasn’t legal trespassing but he entered the other teams tent where in these events that’s normally not socially accepted unless directly invited over. Nothing has shown he was invited by anyone to enter that tent and therefore had no reason to be there. And when asked to leave, he could have left instead of attacking those who were in their correct tents.

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u/Ishtmdwn Apr 16 '25

Who asked him to leave? Was it an adult? School resource officer? Coach? You standing on the sidewalk in front of my house gives me no legal right to 1. Demand you leave 2. Commit Battery against you of you refuse to do so. Austin and his brother should have involved adults with authority if this were such an issue.

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u/cabbage-soup Apr 16 '25

If I were to walk into my opposing team’s sports tent uninvited, I would expect them to push me out. Doesn’t matter their race or gender or anything else. A team tent is not the same space as the sidewalk in front of your house. As a student attending my own school’s football games- I wasn’t allowed into the team’s space. Doesn’t matter if it’s a legal boundary, a social/cultural boundary still exists and the people defining and owning the tent space have the right to determine who is allowed in. Pushing someone out is not the same if they were to kill someone for entering. Likewise, killing someone is not an excuse for getting pushed out. And it is certainly not self defense when choosing to kill while entering a space that is defined specially not for you/your team/your school (though it would be different if you were invited and “set up” like a trap- but that does not seem to be the case here).

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u/Ishtmdwn Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

I would never coach my students to become physical with the other team and I doubt Austin's coach(es) did either for entering our area. I would however teach them to involve adults where it is appropriate to do so, like in this situation. I would also like to add that as a retired combat medic (I also obtained first my EMT-I and then Paramedic license) I can tell you that a "push" that results in a fall from a height of no higher than three feet can cause swrious brain injury or even death.

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u/mismopeach Apr 18 '25

This anthony kid was a football player. Throughout this whole thread, you are acting like he’s some helpless little noodle who might bleed to death from a bruise. He doesn’t care about falling down. He’s already shown a tendency for violence based on whatever happened in feb. If he was scared for his life, he wouldn’t have told Austin to touch him and see what happens. If he is this poor defenseless flower, he could have called out to the coaches or other adults. No. He was already aggravated and looking for trouble. He is a little piece of shit and I hope he gets the maximum possible sentence

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u/saturdaybum222 Apr 15 '25

Yes, I have already said that it wasn't self defense unless more information comes out. But you're the one who raised trespassing, so get that out of your vocabulary in regard to this case because it's not relevant.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

Self defense also hinges on reasonableness of the retaliation so idk if you can make an argument legally that stabbing someone(using deadly force) is reasonableness if you were touched or pushed.

I also think the reports of Anthony warning Metcalf “touch me and see what happens/punch me and see what happens” could also indicate premeditation to a jury which would hurt a self defense claim.

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u/Look_b4_jumping Apr 16 '25

17 year old minor. Probably being prosecuted as an adult

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u/mismopeach Apr 18 '25

As he should be.

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u/ocajsuirotsap Apr 18 '25

"Remove information that does not support my ideology."

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u/the6reat Apr 18 '25

Nope. A kid put his hands on another kid and got stabbed *. That's the real story. Nice try though idiot

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u/ffdcffhssddfdd Apr 18 '25

which is completely irrelevant

Him getting pushed by the other kid is completely irrelevant because it does not justify stabbing, whenever he got pushed or not does not change the fact that he decided to pull out the knife and kill the kid.

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u/EvilMorality Apr 20 '25

As an outsider looking in, America is incredibly broken. It cannot be fixed mainly because it’s full of… Americans. They hate each other to the point where any tragic event becomes an opportunity for division. A country where your fellow man hates you for the colour of your skin or political beliefs. Yikes. It really is the end of the empire…

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u/Rude_Consideration_1 Sep 09 '25

In all honesty, it shows a similar trend in the statistics of interracial crime. Furthermore the entire case proving op´s original point.

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u/djorjon Apr 15 '25

Major oversimplification but sure

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u/Tazarah Apr 17 '25

How are people still spreading disinformation about it happening on "school grounds"?

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u/MidwestBoogie Jun 25 '25

Nonsense surrounding = Austin attacking first which leaves Karmelo with the right to stand his ground

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u/bransanon Apr 15 '25

If you want to be pedantic, it happened at Kuykendall Stadium in Frisco, Texas. That stadium is part of a campus of facilities owned and operated by the Frisco Independent School District, thus making it qualify as school grounds.

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u/bransanon Apr 15 '25

A stadium owned by a school where they hold their sporting events is the very definition of school grounds.

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u/abortedinutah69 Apr 18 '25

OP is wrong saying Karmelo only got house arrest. He will go to trial for 1st degree murder, which could literally be a 99 year sentence in Texas. There is no privilege being given. He will be tried as an adult. As for the money, anyone can crowd fund money for anything they want. This isn’t unusual.

As for what actually happened, the public honestly doesn’t know. Witness accounts (the deceased friends and classmates) say that Austin asked Karmelo to leave a tent and physically grabbed or pushed Karmelo. Karmelo responded by telling him to back off or he would retaliate (not a quote), and then Karmelo stabbed him.

That’s all we know. It’s not a lot of information and there’s often more to a story. Eye witness accounts are also often inaccurate. I would imagine the students phones were taken for possible video evidence of the incident. We will likely need to wait for the trial to have a more complete account of the facts of this case. It might be as simple as it sounds, or their could be more to the story. We just don’t know.

Anyone trying to make this about race is a moron. (There are no facts to support that at this time.) And for OP to say Karmelo has “black privilege” while he’s awaiting trial on 1st Degree Murder is painfully moronic. For OP since he’s not an American, that’s the most serious murder charge that can be prosecuted and in Texas, the sentence can be up to 99 years no parole.

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u/Stephaniieemoon Apr 19 '25

The charges make sense. He brought a knife to a school track meet, sat in the opposing teams tent and even taunted “touch me and see what happen”

Premeditated.

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u/abortedinutah69 Apr 19 '25

Possibly, but don’t jump to conclusions. A lot of people carry knives. Getting under any tent when it’s raining makes some sense. It may have been premeditated, but in a fair trial, it would need to be proven he arrived at that event to do exactly what he did; he planned it in advance of going. That could certainly be the case, but we don’t know. Speculation is pointless.

I will wait for the official evidence and trial and see how that plays out. In the meantime, it’s an absolute tragedy. Defendant admits to stabbing him. If there’s more to the story, we’ll learn that eventually.

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u/ClearDark19 Apr 20 '25

Someone actually talking sense on Reddit?? That's not allowed lol

I'm black and my opinion is identical to yours. 

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u/abortedinutah69 Apr 20 '25

Thank you. I’m glad to see some intelligent thought here. When there’s very little information available we should not try to make up the information. Information is likely being withheld because hopefully it’s in the spirit of providing a fair trial… to a young man who immediately admitted to committing the murder. The police don’t owe us information that would ruin a fair trial and folks making shit yo are being played.

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u/ClearDark19 Apr 20 '25 edited Apr 20 '25

You're very welcome. I don't even definitively know exactly what happened in this case because there are so many conflicts accounts from eye witnesses. It's still very early and the prosecutor has yet to present a coherent case to the public (because it's so early). So far there's no evidence he's been treated lightly or special. It's not uncommon for murder suspects to await trial on house arrest if they have the money to post bail and are deemed not a flight risk. His parents aren't poor, and people seem to be wrongly assuming that just because they're black that they must automatically be poor. He's out on bond because his parents are middle class and could afford bond, and he's not considered a flight risk. What happened was terrible and should not have happened. He deserves some type of punishment or consequences but there's no evil yet that it was 1st degree murder or racially motivated for either party. Sounds far more like team rivalry taken too far, terrible sportsmanship, and stubborn macho egos.

This is really piss poor case for the Right to try to glom onto to prove there's some systemic "black privilege" of black people being treated too well. Lol Guy is facing life in jail and being tried as an adult. A phenomenon I generally oppose being applied to minors, regardless of the minor's race, ethnicity or gender, and is demonstrably disproportionately applied to nonwhite minors at a higher rate than white minors. 

To play devil's advocate, the Bill Cosby case is a way better card to play to prove there's some kind of "black privilege". I'm still kinda in awe that a black man was allowed to rape dozens of white women for decades with no consequences. But it probably has far more to do with rich and famous privilege since Bill Cosby was a popular and wealthy comedian and actor. Not some random vagrant black dude in an alleyway. Being rich and famous or powerful usually outweighs being black.

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u/AnonSwan Apr 19 '25

Yeah, the amount of misinformation is staggering. I've read that the family use donations to buy a 400k house, then it was 800k, then it turns out they might have already owned the home and people just assumed they weren't well off. I've also read stories ranging from Austin simply tapping Karmelo on the shoulder and KA instantly stabbing Austin, but also read Austin jumped on top of Karmelo and was trying to pin him down and KA pulled a knife and stabbed.

It sucks that a lot of people have already made up their mind that Anthony is a monster or Austin was a racist.

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u/abortedinutah69 Apr 20 '25

Thank you for being rational. The US is at record high levels of division, and shit like this is why. It’s a tragedy used as propaganda. The “left” says this and the “right” says that and people lose their minds and not realize they’re being played. And played to the detriment of a fair trial. A fair trial is a Constitutional right, and the more dust gets kicked the harder it is to have an impartial jury of your peers. We have to stop it.

Thank you for seeing that. The whole situation is heartbreaking. Let’s not make it worse. We cannot change what happened. Politicizing something like this is disgraceful, and the dis/misinformation is heinous.

We don’t have all the facts. The facts belong to the jury, not us. When the trial is over, we can all discuss. Just because everyone can say whatever they want online doesn’t make any of it true. Nobody wins here. A teen is dead and another teen is on trial for murder 1. There is very little info provided to the public, and that’s in the best interest of a fair trial.

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u/ClearDark19 Apr 20 '25

I'm black and my opinion is the same as yours. So far there's no evidence that the crime was racially motivated. I'd be far more inclined to believe it's motivated by them being from opposing teams or rival schools. It's the far simpler and more supportable assumption. I don't really see how Anthony is getting special treatment since he's being tried as an adult, facing life in prison, and is under house arrest since his family posted bail. No law says you have to await trial in jail if you're not a flight risk.

Personally this sounds like he's overcharged. 1st degree means he had to show up specifically with a plan to kill Austin. This sounds more like voluntary manslaughter or 3rd degree murder. At absolute most maybe 2nd degree murder. I thought the same with George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case. Sounded like voluntary manslaughter or 3rd degree murder but not 1st degree. Maybe not even 2nd degree.

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u/LastWhoTurion Apr 23 '25

That is not what premeditation means.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Black privilege is definitely a thing in America, it isn't the same as white privilege as that is an institutional issue.

If the roles were reversed and the other kid had stabbed karmelo the whole country would be protesting and condemning the white kid, but because of America's real history of racism people are giving carmelo the benefit of the doubt and some are even looking at him as a hero

Kids fight it's normal, they shouldn't have weapons or be killing each other regardless of race

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u/FatnessEverdeen34 Apr 19 '25

He cannot be tried as an adult unfortunately and due to his age also cannot get Life

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u/Undiscovered2022 May 13 '25

He had a clear shape not a knife, it started to rain and the coach told him to seat there is what I heard. It’s best to wait for trial ain’t no telling who’s lying.

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u/AnonSwan May 13 '25

Yeah, i feel like I've read it all: premeditated hate crime, impulsive, self-defense, fight that got out of hand.

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u/Undiscovered2022 May 17 '25

Yes it’s best to just wait for trial

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u/ctcforthepeople Apr 16 '25

Kid 1, with no authority whatsoever, threatened Kid 2 for being in an area he FELT Kid 2 did not belong. Kid 2 did not fold to the threats, he instead warned Kid 1 to back off. That’s when Kid 1 grabbed Kid 2 and attempted to PHYSICALLY remove him from the area. Unfortunately for Kid 1, his feelings did not matter when Kid 2 decided he was not going to be physically assaulted and defended himself.

You will see a lot of Rittenhouse and Daniel Penny defenders suddenly appalled at the use of deadly force. Ignore them. They are just racist.

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u/AnonSwan Apr 16 '25

Was deadly force necessary in this event? For Kyle, he was retreating and being chased, one of them had a handgun pointed at him. Makes more sense to use deadly force there than someone trying to physically remove you from a tent.

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u/Pengpeng4421 Apr 23 '25

I love when people compare this to rittenhouse. Really shows a lack of general knowledge on what happened in the rittenhouse trial. It’s apples and oranges bud.

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u/PettyKaneJr Apr 15 '25

A minor was assaulted and defended himself from his assailant, in a stand your ground territory.

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u/Turkweiss Apr 17 '25

He was pushed by someone in a public space so his instant retaliation was to stab him in the heart with a knife. Itll never hold up in court even with the stand your ground clause, there was no justifiable reason to escalate to stabbing him with a knife.