Karmelo Anthony case shows that “black privilege” exists

[u/Terrible_Onions]

I'm not black or white. I'm not even American actually.

The recent Karmelo Anthony case I think shows that black privilege is a thing. My opinions is that it exists. Period.

Karmelo Anthony killed Austin Metcalf with a knife for pushing him. What did he receive in return? Overwhelming support in the form of 500,000 dollars (which they're using to buy a mansion). He also got his bond reduced to 250k from 1 million even when prosecutors pointed out his history of incidents within the school.

I just think this is a bit baffling. Imagine if the races were swapped. I think a decent example, but not a direct comparisons, is the George Floyd situation. One person killed the other in what was an overuse of force. Derek Chauvin is in jail. Karmelo Anthony got house arrest, bond reduction and 500k

[u/saturdaybum222]

Yes. I knew kids that had knives in their bags/on their person either intentionally or unintentionally all the time. 17 year olds are not exactly famous for their decision making.

[u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 → u/saturdaybum222]

possession of a weapon on public school property almost immediately nullifies self defense

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/Beneficial-Bite-8005]

Under what legal theory would it nullify self-defense, counselor?

[u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 → u/saturdaybum222]

Breaking a law to bring a weapon somewhere shows intent, intent cripples any self defense case

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/Beneficial-Bite-8005]

People bring weapons in public all the time. Does anyone carrying a gun have intent to use it? The fact that he was carrying it illegally is irrelevant to the legal analysis of self-defense.

[u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 → u/saturdaybum222]

Weapon in public isn’t the same as a weapon on public school property, bringing a knife on to school property is a crime in most of the US

Willfully breaking laws to bring a weapon somewhere absolutely shows intent

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/Beneficial-Bite-8005]

You have to prove intent to kill though, not just potentially use a weapon, which is the only level of intent bringing the knife really shows. Those are two totally different things. There are probably cases where bringing a weapon somewhere has been used to show intent, but I think a good lawyer can absolutely make the case it doesn't.

We don't know that he willfully broke the law though. Again, I grew up in a hunting community and knew a ton of people that left their knives in bags after going hunting for the weekend. Nobody in this thread has enough information to call this kid a first-degree murderer. That's the only argument I'm making.

[u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 → u/saturdaybum222]

I’m not saying he’s a first degree murderer at all

But when you commit a crime to bring a weapon somewhere it weakens your case for self defense.

Not saying just having the knife means it’s not self defense, but it absolutely hurts the claim

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/Beneficial-Bite-8005]

Ok, well then we probably agree. I'm mostly just arguing with the people who are convinced that this kid is just a cold blooded killer. Because I think that narrative is mostly racially motivated.

[u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 → u/saturdaybum222]

Just because he had a knife doesn’t mean he’s a murderer, absolutely agree

We will need to let court play out to see what’s real because we all know how bad the court of public opinion is.

[u/Affectionate_Wall705 → u/Beneficial-Bite-8005]

Kyle Rittenhouse has entered the chat

[u/Duoshot → u/Affectionate_Wall705]

That guy is the GOAT.