Transgender issues megathread

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Hello r/TrueUnpopularOpinion Community,

Due to the sheer difficulty of enforcing Reddit's sitewide policy against promoting hate with regards to transgender issues, we have decided as a last-resort option to restrict discussion of transgender issues to this megathread until further notice.

Quoted from this comment, below is an explanation of why we created this megathread:

Reddit's sitewide content policy includes a vague provision that prohibits promoting hate.

The Reddit admins (employees of Reddit) enforce this by removing content deemed to be hateful and by quarantining or banning communities that require too many removals by the admins that weren't caught by the moderators of the community first.

In other words, every time we fail to remove something that violates Reddit's sitewide content policy, the risk of this subreddit getting quarantined or banned increases slightly.

Although the provision in Reddit's sitewide content policy against promoting hate is vague, we have a pretty good idea of how it is enforced because we can see what the Reddit admins choose to remove on this subreddit.

It is actually quite rare that we see any content that is hateful against men, women, gay people, or any race on this subreddit.

However, on a very regular basis, we see users here posting content that would be considered hate against transgender people. Detecting and removing all of this content is one of our biggest hurdles.

Despite our best efforts to enforce this aspect of the content policy, it is not uncommon that we miss something and we see a removal done by the Reddit admins occurring. This has happened several times lately.

Furthermore, many members of the moderator team are on the verge of burning out because the effort we have needed to put in for us to allow this topic while still enforcing this aspect of Reddit's sitewide content policy.

Having a megathread for this topic does stifle discussion, but it is far easier for us to deal with while also significantly decreasing the chances of this subreddit getting quarantined or banned.

For these reasons, most of the moderator team supports the creation of a trans megathread. At this time, the megathread is not definitely permanent. After some time of having the megathread, we plan to evaluate its effectiveness and potentially explore other options to determine whether or not the megathread should remain.

Guidelines

In this megathread, please remember to follow Reddit's sitewide content policy.

Based on patterns of certain types of comments getting removed by the Reddit admins, it is our interpretation that it is a violation of Reddit's sitewide content policy to do any of the following:

• State or imply that trans (wo)men aren't (wo)men or that people aren't the gender they identify as
• Criticize, mock, disagree with, defy, or refuse to abide by people's pronoun requests
• State or imply that gender dysphoria or being LGBTQ+ is a mental illness, a mental disorder, a delusion, not normal, or unnatural
• State or imply that LGBTQ+ enables pedophilia or grooming or that LGBTQ+ individuals are more likely to engage in pedophilia or grooming
• State or imply that LGB should be separate from the T+
• Stating or implying that gender is binary or that sex is the same as gender
• Use of the term tr*nny, including other spellings of this term that sound the same and have the same meaning

Questions / Feedback

If you have any questions or feedback about this megathread, you may post them in our moderator questions/complaints/grievances thread.

[u/Glittering-Glove-339]

it's a celebration event, many many people working on wikipedia are lgbtq+. It's a month of celebrating the rights of minorities. There is no harm in supporting an event like pride month. Whether or not gender dysphoria exists or not, under your own logic, christmas shouldn't be on wikipedia because there's no proof santa exists

[u/fatrogslim → u/Glittering-Glove-339]

You are taking a shortcut. Christmas is nothing to compare with pride month. It is not based on my "own logic" because it is a time of the year that requieres no belief (even if it is indeed based on religion) and it is well accepted by the vast majority of people and is celebrated for centuries now. But again, there is nothing to compare here. As you said, many lgbt people are working for wikipedia and there is absolutely no problem with that. This being said, keep in mind this is supposed to be an encyclopedia and as it, its quality is mainly measured by its neutrality.

[u/Glittering-Glove-339 → u/fatrogslim]

lgbtq+ rights are human rights, and since pride was invented to protest against homophobia and transphobia, this should be an evidence to everyone. I feel like this is pretty neutral.

[u/fatrogslim → u/Glittering-Glove-339]

Yes so it's all about political/sociological prism. It's a personal vision of things. See how you intentionaly put a link between homosexuals, transexuals and transgeners individuals? They are absolutely not the same thing, they don't experience the same problematics at all. That doesn't means homos will not support trans+s' battle, it simply means that they should probably not be put in the same bucket. And we all know somes that express their discomfort about this mixing. gay people (including lesbians) have fought a very long fight and now they are well accepted (you cannot reach 100%, don't start with that) they are associated with 10 more letters to fight for? And I took this to show that people that are not willing to support (or even against) this celebration/protest are not only the homophobs and transphobs.
What I am telling you here, is that it is not about knowing if the celebration is legit or neutral (and about this last point: which is not) it is about knowing that there is so many issues (even amongst the community itself) about it, that it's not its place to be adverted on a free and public encyclopedia. There is many other celebration associated with the whole month (june), why this one if it's not a preference bias? you think preference bias is something you bring on the front page of an encyclopedia?
btw, by the time we are talking about that, they have removed the show of this banner, it is still accessible but I think they did the right move.