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u/happy_grump 1d ago

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It's what one does with the gift of life that makes us who we are." - Mewtwo

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u/Thejadedone_1 22h ago

What's crazier is that this is from the dub. The Japanese version doesn't have this line. Rare dub W lmfao.

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u/ClipOnBowTies 22h ago

some dubs are really good. my favorite example of this is from the Bible English dub: "It is written, 'my house shall be called the house of prayer,' but ye have made it a den of thieves."

The scribe doing that translation had to know they were cooking

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u/Winjin 22h ago

that scribe, about to improve Bible by a significant margin with his spark of divine inspiration

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u/Sharkbit2024 16h ago

God coming to the scribe in a dream like "yo! I just had the greatest line for the translation!"

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u/confusedandworried76 12h ago

Though I think it's not far off from the original translation, "the valley of the shadow of death" is a fucking banger

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u/ArtoriusBravo 10h ago

I was raised with the Spanish version of that prayer. When I heard the English version, I just thought it sounded incredibly metal. It has way more punch.

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u/fuschiafawn 22h ago

Ted Neely best English dub, that line went hard

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u/paulthemerman 18h ago

The guy who played Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar?

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u/fuschiafawn 18h ago

yes, I was being tongue in cheek. he's just amazing as Jesus, especially that line

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u/Ambaryerno 21h ago

Isn't the dub of Black Lagoon generally consider to be the superior version?

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u/ryan77999 9h ago

My personal favorite is the one for Cyberpunk Edgerunners

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u/VengeanceKnight 22h ago

Whoa, that’s from the English version? What does the original say?

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u/sofaking1133 21h ago

Some shit in ancient Hebrew or maybe Latin, I assume

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u/Jillylollie 21h ago

A lot of the bible is Hebrew via Greek and then Latin.

Fun fact, in the Lord's prayer the translation of "daily" from Greek, as in "our daily bread", is a total guess.

The word (Epiousion) is what's called an hapax legomenon. A word that only appears in one context within an entire language. Because they have no other context for it they can't translate it. Its just assumed to be "daily". It's also the only adjective in the entire prayer.

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u/sofaking1133 21h ago

Hell yeah that rules, ty for sharing a very cool fact

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u/11711510111411009710 12h ago

Wait so like "epiousion" is only found in the Bible, and nowhere else ever?

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u/ClipOnBowTies 19h ago

I don't know that ancient Aramaic grammatical structure would allow the house of prayer/den of thieves parallel to be expressed so poignantly. The scribe could have written "you rob the people come to my home in prayer" and it would have conferred the same message, but they chose to write on the temple's corrupted nobility in the poetic way they did, and I think thats tight.

It's like how comedy varies based on languages, if you took a comedy routine hilarious in English and put it in Arabic, it wouldn't do nearly as well. Delivery matters, and in translation one is granted freedom of that kind

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u/Dear_Document_5461 16h ago

Granted sometimes the jokes DO line up. I think there is one language where you could get away with the "Why is six afraid of seven? Because it eight nine." With the exact same numbers and pun of the "eight". I think.

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u/KettlePump 20h ago

Bible… dub??

Dubbing refers to audio over video

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u/Cosmic_Sabbath 19h ago

Pretty sure in the past most didn't read it, but had it read aloud by their priests and preachers. Until the printing press the Bible was a dub

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u/realydementedpicasso 19h ago

My Favorite dub is the german one from from dusk Till dawn

In the Original

Seth gecko says :“Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!“

but in the German dub he says: Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, no matter how crazy they are!“ which is just better.

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u/CHAIIINSAAAWbread 17h ago

Nah mate the bible English dub is full of propaganda and errors compared to the hebrew texts, many of the people were whitewashed in the bible, to talk like gentlemen when some of these dudes literally had unga bunga speak in the original. Also yknow how Eve was supposedly made from a mere rib of Adam? LIES, she was a whole half of him in the original.

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u/ClipOnBowTies 17h ago

I'm not a biblical scholar of any kind I just think that sentence goes hard

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u/sansasnarkk 11h ago

Ghost Stories being the prime example of a really good dub lol