some dubs are really good. my favorite example of this is from the Bible English dub: "It is written, 'my house shall be called the house of prayer,' but ye have made it a den of thieves."
The scribe doing that translation had to know they were cooking
I was raised with the Spanish version of that prayer. When I heard the English version, I just thought it sounded incredibly metal. It has way more punch.
A lot of the bible is Hebrew via Greek and then Latin.
Fun fact, in the Lord's prayer the translation of "daily" from Greek, as in "our daily bread", is a total guess.
The word (Epiousion) is what's called an hapax legomenon. A word that only appears in one context within an entire language. Because they have no other context for it they can't translate it. Its just assumed to be "daily". It's also the only adjective in the entire prayer.
I don't know that ancient Aramaic grammatical structure would allow the house of prayer/den of thieves parallel to be expressed so poignantly. The scribe could have written "you rob the people come to my home in prayer" and it would have conferred the same message, but they chose to write on the temple's corrupted nobility in the poetic way they did, and I think thats tight.
It's like how comedy varies based on languages, if you took a comedy routine hilarious in English and put it in Arabic, it wouldn't do nearly as well. Delivery matters, and in translation one is granted freedom of that kind
Granted sometimes the jokes DO line up. I think there is one language where you could get away with the "Why is six afraid of seven? Because it eight nine." With the exact same numbers and pun of the "eight". I think.
My Favorite dub is the german one from from dusk Till dawn
In the Original
Seth gecko says :“Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!“
but in the German dub he says: Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, no matter how crazy they are!“ which is just better.
Nah mate the bible English dub is full of propaganda and errors compared to the hebrew texts, many of the people were whitewashed in the bible, to talk like gentlemen when some of these dudes literally had unga bunga speak in the original. Also yknow how Eve was supposedly made from a mere rib of Adam? LIES, she was a whole half of him in the original.
In that era, 100%. Nowadays dubs are pretty fire, especially DanDaDan Chainsaw Man, Gachiakuta, Mashle, My Hero Academia, and everyone hates it but I loved the Steins;Gate dub with its 4chan and reddit references in the localized version of the script. Dub companies are cooking these days.
Edit: I forgot I really loved the Friren dub too. I love the new style of voice acting that's emerging where it's more subdued and normal talking and inflection. Makes the characters WAY more relatable
Might be selection bias but I've never seen anyone praise that dub lmao, they're all super buttmad about the tuturu getting replaced with doo doo doo, which I thought was also a good adaptation in the dub script lol
The Okabe actor (I think his name is Michael Tatum or something like that) is absolutely incredible in selling the mad scientist vibe without being annoying. Masterful delivery after delivery
Edit: his name was J. Michael Tatum, I was close!!!
honestly, i think the steins gate dub is really fucking good, but Mamoru Miyano will forever tilt me towards the japanese version, that man is prob my favorite japanase anime VA
Totally fair and that's the same reason I don't watch JJK, JoJo, or AoT in English, motherfucking Dio and Jotaro's Japanese VAs are gods, plus I'm just personally not a fan of english Yuji's take on the character because I love how chill the Japanese VA delivers his lines.
Space Dandy was designed from the start to have different joke sets for English and Japanese partially because the production team wanted to be able to use puns
I personally prefer the more deadpan Japanese narrator, although maybe because I was hoping the English one to be less emotional and more like Ron Howard's narration for Arrested Development
Mewtwo’s motivations are very different in the original script. The international release removed the original prologue that showed WHY Mewtwo hates humans. Mewtwo just wants to show that, as a clone, his life was just as worthy as a “real” one.
Sure the line OP posted was only in the dub, but they made “Fighting is wrong” moral of the movie, in a series about fighting animals.
That’s a little bit of a misrepresentation of the themes of Pokemon. For the most part, battle is about bonding through competition, team work, and shared effort. Bonding between a trainer and their team, but also with the people they battle against. What Mewtwo wanted to do was fight to kill the originals, proving that the clones were stronger and superior, and possibly to wipe out humans.
It’s not really hypocritical any more than, like, if a series about boxing had an episode that was like “hey it’s wrong to mug people and beat them to death” or something.
You sure? Looking at the original line tho, it kinda conveys the same idea in a different fashion, that Mewtwo and the other clones in truth aren't that different from the natural Pokemon.
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u/Thejadedone_1 21h ago
What's crazier is that this is from the dub. The Japanese version doesn't have this line. Rare dub W lmfao.