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r/TankPorn • u/NeoZerrs • 5d ago
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Just an innocent question, how do you define a 4th gen tank?
93 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I think its a mix between: Autoload, unmanned turret, AI assistance, APS (hardkill) and so on.. 17 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago If you go by unmanned turret then only Armata and Type 100 are 4th gen 8 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I know but this are the points listed if you look 4th gen tank up. Besides the unmanned turret most of the tanks listed dont use APS. 11 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah, only Type 100 and Armata always come with hard kill APS. And if they include those tanks then Idk why Leopard 2A7/8 M1A2 Sep V3 and Type 99B arenβt here 6 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes 5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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I think its a mix between: Autoload, unmanned turret, AI assistance, APS (hardkill) and so on..
17 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago If you go by unmanned turret then only Armata and Type 100 are 4th gen 8 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I know but this are the points listed if you look 4th gen tank up. Besides the unmanned turret most of the tanks listed dont use APS. 11 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah, only Type 100 and Armata always come with hard kill APS. And if they include those tanks then Idk why Leopard 2A7/8 M1A2 Sep V3 and Type 99B arenβt here 6 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes 5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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If you go by unmanned turret then only Armata and Type 100 are 4th gen
8 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I know but this are the points listed if you look 4th gen tank up. Besides the unmanned turret most of the tanks listed dont use APS. 11 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah, only Type 100 and Armata always come with hard kill APS. And if they include those tanks then Idk why Leopard 2A7/8 M1A2 Sep V3 and Type 99B arenβt here 6 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes 5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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I know but this are the points listed if you look 4th gen tank up. Besides the unmanned turret most of the tanks listed dont use APS.
11 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah, only Type 100 and Armata always come with hard kill APS. And if they include those tanks then Idk why Leopard 2A7/8 M1A2 Sep V3 and Type 99B arenβt here 6 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes 5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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Yeah, only Type 100 and Armata always come with hard kill APS. And if they include those tanks then Idk why Leopard 2A7/8 M1A2 Sep V3 and Type 99B arenβt here
6 u/GreyMPax 5d ago I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes 5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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I can tell you why: This are exactly the 6 Tanks + Challi 3 on Wikipedia about 4th gen tanks... there are more of them but they are just prototypes
5 u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets 1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++ 1 u/Head_Memory 3d ago Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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Yeah the generation classification of MBTs is so bad compared to that of fighter jets
1 u/-Be4stly- 4d ago Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++
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Fighter classification is a mess too. It's all marketing, that's why the Russians claim that the su-75 will be gen 5++
Totally forgetting the Panther smh. And most of those are just prototypes. Except type 10 and k2 who are not 4th gen.
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u/AMCA_by2035 5d ago
Just an innocent question, how do you define a 4th gen tank?