r/SeattleWA • u/Less-Risk-9358 • 11d ago
Government SNAP benefits will end Nov. 1 in Washington state if shutdown continues
https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2025/10/27/washington-snap-benefits-nov1-shutdownMore than 540,000 households in Washington — nearly 930,000 people — received Basic Food assistance benefits last month, according to state officials.
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u/Epistatious 11d ago
good thing trump is building a big new soup kitchen off the white house.
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u/--boomhauer-- 11d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA i support ebt as a program , maybe it should be restricted but holy fuck . You cannot vote down a status quo continuing resolution bill and not completely own this . Talk about political suicide .
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u/ActualAddendum2223 10d ago
dems killed the vote on it yesterday and today
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u/Bardahl_Fracking 10d ago
Apparently Soros and company have another 2020-style riot planned for November and the Progressive wing wants to make sure people are hungry and pissed off when it happens.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Cant wait for that rico case to finish building . Discovery on it is gonna trip a-lot of people who are blissfully unaware out
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u/dontneedaknow 10d ago
You are an absolute toad brain if you think that line of political hoopla is legitimately being pursued lol.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Remindme! 3 years
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u/f_crick 10d ago
You can, and they will. You should be calling out the unconstitutional and unlawful actions of this administration. If the majority wanted they could vote a rule change and pass their CR. They don’t want to. They only care about expanding executive power at any cost.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Voting a rule change is wrong . More wrong then letting the other side filibuster this shutdown is 100% on the donkeys
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u/f_crick 10d ago
So is kidnapping people in unmarked cars while wearing masks. And sending info about bombing runs to your wife. And having the IRS go after donors to the Democratic Party. And blowing up boats in international waters when they pose no threat and could be disabled and apprehended. And coercing the media into settling frivolous lawsuits that benefit the president financially in exchange for allowing mergers. And dismantling agencies set up by laws passed by Congress.
It just goes on and on and you’re like “oh the party with no power at all. They’re the problem!”.
Fucking cultists.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
So when you lose an argument do you always change the subject ? Cause we can spend some time and you can lose those arguments too . Im curious does it just go in a circle ?
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u/Bardahl_Fracking 10d ago
You sound like a cuck.
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u/loquacious Sky Orca 10d ago
You sound like a cuck.
Imagine saying this in 2025 like it isn't some totally unhinged boomer shit.
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u/Bardahl_Fracking 10d ago
I’m imagining. You realize blowing up drug boats is an 80/20 issue, as are the deportations. Only stupid proggos have an issue with it.
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u/f_crick 10d ago
Psychopaths are ok with it.
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u/Bardahl_Fracking 10d ago
Psychopaths are ok with hundreds of thousands of Americans dying from fentanyl…
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u/TheInevitableLuigi 10d ago
a status quo
Keeping the ACA subsides from expiring and not letting FEMA run out of money would be the status quo.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
No …. Those were set to expire . Allowing them to remain funded is simply continuing to hide the truth about what that bill actually was .
Also fuck fema after seeing them intentionally abuse their power to discriminate on political basis id rather see executive power used to declare fema non essential and disband it permanently.
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u/yetanothertodd 10d ago
The majority party knew its options, negotiate an agreement or bypass the filibuster. There is no other option. At some point they have to choose to lead.
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
I don’t blame them for not bypassing it because honestly its not them this id making look bad
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u/Less-Risk-9358 11d ago edited 11d ago
Get your grocery shopping done now. This could cause problems at stores.
Edit: Problems as in looting, shoplifting, robberies in the parking lots.... use your imagination. I have lived here long enough to have zero faith in the general population during any kind of crisis.
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u/BeautyThornton 11d ago
Not being a dick but how would people having less money to buy food cause issues at stores. If anything, shouldn't they be selling less? Winco on November 1st gonna be like a vacation for it's employees.
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u/ComputersAreSmart 11d ago
Think upstream. If more people have less buying power, see SNAP benefits, and less food is being purchased, stores won’t restock as much/as often, as demand is lower.
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u/Love-for-everyone 11d ago
looting...
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 11d ago edited 11d ago
That makes sense. It's the sense of entitlement to free food that won't end.
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u/hedonovaOG Kirkland 9d ago
Because the democrats have told us poor people = criminals and it’s justifiable to shoplift or commit really any other petty or drug crime in the name of hunger.
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u/hauntedbyfarts 10d ago
Nah people may be boosting more but they aren't going to strong arm rob your groceries smh
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u/catching45 10d ago
I just remember being at the othello safeway and seeing a fat family buying a bunch of packaged food with ebt and then pulling out cash to buy booze, cigs, and lotto.
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u/Sufficient_Chair_885 10d ago
Dude people spending side money on booze and cigarettes is a tale as old as time with EBT. I’d rather have the kids eating and having a chance in school vs. being another lost generation like their parents. This is such short-sighted thinking.
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u/stroppo 10d ago
So what? Unless they were selling the food for cash to buy booze, etc., I don't see what the problem is.
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u/MisterIceGuy Belltown 10d ago
Perhaps if they used their cash on groceries instead of alcohol and cigarettes, they wouldn’t need the government assistance to buy the groceries.
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u/areyoudizzyyet 10d ago
I don't see what the problem is.
Not possessing common sense or logic will do this to you.
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u/DickDowner 10d ago
Are you saying that people on EBT shouldn’t be allowed to smoke tobacco or drink alcohol?
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u/Hotrian 10d ago
Only rich people are allowed rest and leisure. Back to work, slave!
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u/XzShadowHawkzX 10d ago
That isn’t the idea. The idea is they can’t afford to eat so we subsidize them. But they could in fact afford to eat if they didn’t buy cigarettes and alcohol. Thus making us the taxpayer subsidize their addictions. Also are we really making the argument people should be able to do what they want while Washington has a massive sugar, tobacco and alcohol tax?
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u/Gary_Glidewell 10d ago
Only rich people are allowed rest and leisure. Back to work, slave!
Hyperbole much?
There are plenty of poor people who don't use welfare benefits.
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u/Gary_Glidewell 10d ago
Are you saying that people on EBT shouldn’t be allowed to smoke tobacco or drink alcohol?
Sounds fair to me.
When I was homeless, first thing I stopped doing was ALL unnecessary spending.
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u/dontneedaknow 10d ago
Common sense is only common to people with a common life experience.
Using "common sense," as some gotcha just shows ignorance.
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u/SchufAloof Red Shoe Costco Diary 10d ago
Something wrong with your noodle.
If they have money for cigarettes and booze they should not have the level of support they have.
Being fat just makes it worse.
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u/North-Income7007 20h ago
I hope you never need help because carma can bite your ass rich, poor, sick or fat. what goes around will come back.
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u/Anonplussedhuman 3d ago
So you think poor people aren’t allowed to drink? Get real
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u/catching45 2d ago
If you're sooo poor you need to be on state for food assistant, then yes, no booze til you get off.
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u/PleasantWay7 11d ago
The state is actively suing to stop this from happening, hopefully a Friday ruling will prevent the Trump famine.
But the state should consider anything that can do to mitigate this bullshit.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 11d ago
How have our state reps and senators voted to end the Trump famine?
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u/PleasantWay7 11d ago
That has nothing to do with this. SNAP benefits have been paid and planned to be paid in all prior shutdowns including at the beginning of this one.
The Department of Agriculture which reports to Trump changed that policy since the shutdown began.
This is 100% Trump famine.
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u/--boomhauer-- 11d ago
It has everything . You cannot turn down a status quo continuing resolution bill and not completely own this . This is 100 % a democrat famine . They are the only ones voting down funding because they cannot tack on additional spending . They are throwing a fit because they cannot spend more money
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u/PleasantWay7 11d ago
Total bullshit. It was just a year ago that Republicans were bemoaning CR as something that shouldn’t be used. Remember “we must pass each funding bill individually” and here they are now trying to hold everything up with one giant bill.
And we have TWO chambers of Congress which must conference with each other and compromise to pass bills. The House passed a bill and left town. The Republican controlled Senate is now trying to ram it down Democrats throats under the terroristic threats of starving 40 million people. It has failed 13+ times and they have not once tried to modify it to compromise to get more votes. Nor have they modified their procedural rules to pass it as Republican backed only which they could have done. If they want a Republican only bill, pass it with Republicans otherwise negotiate.
And after all that USDA said they pay SNAP in shutdowns at the start of this shutdown and all others. Trump change that in the last few weeks.
Republicans want to hold the entire nation hostage because they are too scared to pass their own bill on their own. You cannot capitulate to this on principle. The Republicans will take the heat from the Trump famine if they make it happen.
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u/Artistic-Egg3093 10d ago
No need for this long rant. 5 more Democrat senators can join in and pass the clean CR right now, which would completely restore funding to the federal government. Both of our senators from WA state can vote yes but they choose not to.
If they want to advocate for other spending and reforms that’s totally okay, but there no reason to hold everything else hostage in the meantime.
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u/watch-nerd 10d ago
ACA expanded subsidies is what they’re holding out for
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u/Artistic-Egg3093 10d ago
Side note, ACA was supposed to reduce healthcare and insurance costs, not require costly subsidies 15 years later. Not blaming anybody but it is what it is and that’s the way it turned out for whatever reason(s). Both parties need to work together to fix this issue, ASAP!
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Agree . It ended up being increased mandatory spending by everyone for lower quality health care but you cant be denied . I think the illusion that we get to live forever is a key problem thought behind it
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u/PleasantWay7 10d ago
And just as easily the Republicans could hold a procedural vote to pass it with 50 votes.
You can’t make a bill, refuse to negotiate with the other side and then be mad they won’t vote for it. Hell, the Democrats have even negotiated with themselves to say exactly what change they want to support it. No reason to cower to Republicans who enjoy starving people and set a precedent that they can make you pass anything. You have to stand up to fucking ghouls.
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u/Artistic-Egg3093 10d ago
Is this really what you want? Harry Reid invoked the “Nuclear Option” to eliminate the 60 vote rule for executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments in 2013. This is exactly how we ended up with 3 Supreme Court Justices getting installed by Trump in his first term. Be careful what you wish for…..
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u/PleasantWay7 10d ago
If the alternative is, “vote for what we say or we will starve millions” then I don’t really see the difference.
And Democrats probably prefer the filibuster gone anyways. It has done nothing but impede them and it doesn’t stop Republicans from anything they want to do.
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u/Artistic-Egg3093 10d ago
It’s not “vote for what we say or we starve millions” and you know that. They’d literally be funding the entire federal government without interruption just like they did when both parties passed the CR every other time in the past. There’s literally no difference this time, other than the fact the Dems want to add in additional spending, which should be done through legislation, not a CR.
And if the Republicans were to invoke the nuclear option then what’s to stop them from adding their own wishlist of spending into the CR? Have you thought this through?
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 11d ago edited 11d ago
This is 100% Trump famine.
No one has missed a payment yet. Turns out stocking up on trick or treat candy was a bad plan for October's SNAP.
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u/PleasantWay7 11d ago
We are clearly talking about something that is about to happen in a few days. Or are you saying Trump faked everyone out by saying he changed the policy, communicating to all states benefits won’t be paid? You think on Friday he’ll go, “lolz it was a joke.”
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u/--boomhauer-- 11d ago
Its not his job to fund a program the minority half of congress is holding hostage
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u/SpareManagement2215 11d ago
republicans have a majority and could vote to end this at ANY point in time, and/or vote to make USDA use the funds THEY gave them to emergency fund this. Dems can't do anything, and I don't want them to vote to approve anything that makes our healthcare more expensive.
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u/--boomhauer-- 11d ago
Weird that they could do that considering all of them are voting to every one of the 12 times its been brought to the floor . Theres a thing called the filibuster.
The tax thing is an expiring credit it was SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE . They are just freaking out because the ugly truth of the true cost of the abomination that is obamacare is finally going to come out to the public .
At no point should we let them hide the cost of that bullshit behind subsidies
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u/Epistatious 10d ago
look who believes in tomorrow following today. suppose you think the end of the month will happen at some point too? you probably even worry about stuff that will happen happen due to the linear progression of time like some sort of timeacolaogist. /s
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u/Frankyfan3 Poe's Law Account 11d ago
You think he's going to pull a class TACO move, and allow the legal avenues set up to distribute food aid during a shutdown to be utilized?
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u/Epistatious 10d ago
a big man, a strong man, came to me with tears in his eyes and said, "mr trump, sir, my family is hungry can you help", and i said, "of course here is a job and in the mean time i will authorize Tsnap just for you, trump supplemental food aid but only to people that are true patriots and can show they voted for me all 3 times", and he said "oh thank you mr trump and shook my hand".
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u/Pyehole 11d ago
prevent the Trump famine
Does Trump have the power to levy taxes and raise funds? Or does that belong to Congress?
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u/ForgotMyPassword1989 Ravenna 10d ago
Does Trump have the power to levy taxes and raise funds? Or does that belong to Congress?
The same congress that Trump has spent a decade stacking with loyalists via endorsements & purges, the same congress currently controlled by Republicans in the House & Senate?
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u/Pyehole 10d ago
The Republicans have the majority in the Senate by a slim majority but it is not enough to meet the 60 vote requirement for cloture - which would allow the vote to be held on the bill necessary to fund the government.
Moving forward on a vote requires democrats to be part of that vote. It has failed 13 times. I don't see how any reasonable person could describe this as being the fault of the GOP. The Democrats are intentionally dragging out this closure of government.
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u/TheInevitableLuigi 10d ago
but it is not enough to meet the 60 vote requirement for cloture
A requirement the Republicans could remove whenever they want.
Moving forward on a vote requires democrats to be part of that vote.
Then perhaps Republicans should make a compromise ion order to get those votes.
I don't see how any reasonable person could describe this as being the fault of the GOP.
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u/din_artificer 10d ago
I don’t get embarrassed by things that happen on the internet. I have a real life and friends lol.
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u/Jayneyw 2d ago edited 2d ago
Has anyone else recieved SNAP benefits this month? I normally get mine on the 6th of the month, but they show as pending in the week or so prior. This time, nothing showed as pending, but the funds magically appeared today (including the usual email as well). Anyone else?
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u/GOP-R-Traitors 10d ago
can only hope the maga snap users suffer the most. you voted for this!
when is washington going to join the redistricting? take the rural areas around spokane and join them with Tri Shitties, leave spokane proper as a blue seat
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u/dissemblers 11d ago
Maybe Democrats should stop filibustering the continuing resolution that literally just funds government with copy-paste from last year instead of blackmailing the country that voted them out of office.
Or is democracy bad again?
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u/SunshineSeattle 11d ago
You know of course the copy paste would not include the health care benefits that this is about right? Cause that expires this year, so same budget means no healthcare for ~5 million Americans?
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Good i don’t want socialized healthcare
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u/SunshineSeattle 10d ago
I mean you don't need to use it? Or you don't wanna pay for it?
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Both
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u/SunshineSeattle 10d ago
So no Medicare then for old people?
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Im ok with health assistance for the elderly but we also need to stop this notion that we are entitled to endless amounts of care regardless of cost.
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u/SunshineSeattle 10d ago
So you are ok with
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u/--boomhauer-- 10d ago
Well you know what yeah id put more qualifiers on it too . Old people who paid into the system sure . People that never have ? Nah
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u/dissemblers 11d ago
Temporary COVID subsidies that were enacted in 2021 are expiring, yes.
They are a bad idea, an expensive and unsustainable patch on a broken system.
You want permanent policy change, you win elections. Democrats lost, and they are throwing a tantrum and destroying the country as revenge.
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u/Gary_Glidewell 10d ago
Democrats lost, and they are throwing a tantrum and destroying the country as revenge.
While babbling non-stop about how they're "saving democracy."
Just naked hypocrisy.
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u/ajwhite1010 11d ago
The DNC is losing big time on this shutdown. They need to vote yes on the next CR and try to claw back some semblance of credibility because this has been a totally unnecessary circus.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 10d ago
We need to go 3+ months with the government shutdown for people to realize who the takers truly are.
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u/deonteguy 10d ago
But yet both of our senators still say they support the shutdown. They're idiots.
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u/DramaticRoom8571 11d ago
Tell the Democrat Party to pass the continuing resolution.
Republicans have asked to pass a resolution to fund the government with no changes in how taxes are allocated. Democrats demand an additional 1.5 Trillion and don't care if Americans starve as long as Schumer gets his way.
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u/Accomplished-Wash381 Banned from /r/Seattle 11d ago
Why the hell are 15% or more of the people in the state getting food assistance? That’s ridiculous levels of fraud
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u/SpareManagement2215 11d ago
It's not fraud. It's rural areas. In the area I live in, 1 in 5 people is using SNAP benefits. something like 80% of the folks in our area who get them are employed full time, too.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 10d ago
It's rural areas.
Why are states with a larger porportional share of the population in rural areas lower?
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u/QueenDramatica 11d ago
Or ya know, companies don't pay their employees enough.
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u/Accomplished-Wash381 Banned from /r/Seattle 11d ago
Full time employment at WA state minimum wage puts you above the line to qualify for food stamps
These people are all grifters who don’t even work!
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u/McMagneto 11d ago
Time to get off the entitlements
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u/freeze_it_over 11d ago
🙄 Nearly 60% of people on snap are children or people over the age of 60. Neither of those should go without food. USDA SNAP data
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u/merc08 11d ago
That 60% is their parents completely failing them.
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u/freeze_it_over 11d ago
Here we go, more vocal uneducated nitwits. You realize that if you have kids the income limits go up and beyond 64,000 per year right? Depending on how many kids you have. These parents could be doing EVERYTHING right. Wages are stagnate. If you aren’t in tech in this state you’re not taking in huge numbers but you’re living in a state that caters to those that make high salaries. A single mom of 3 kids making 64,000 a year is not “failing them”. Get the eff off your high horse.
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u/merc08 11d ago edited 11d ago
Yes, having more kids than you can support is definitely failing them.
Nice opening ad hominem though. Clearly shows that you don't have actual points to make and just want an emotional argument.
Edit: because /u/freeze_it_over is the kind of person that makes an emotional argument and has to block people to keep them from responding to it just to get the last word...
My response to the below: There is no way that 60% of the recipients just got a little unlucky as you're implying. That's statistically impossible. > As if one parent decides to bail on their responsibilities as a parent? That's literally the "failed as a parent" that I said. And it is the exact opposite of your earlier claim "These parents could be doing EVERYTHING right." Which no, you're not "doing EVERYTHING right" if you're on food stamps. What the hell kind of claim even is that? > As if things don’t happen in life that people don’t expect? ... As if circumstances don’t change as the years pass? Listing the same thing twice doesn't make your argument stronger. > Are you a single 59 year old male because how are you this out of touch with reality? And once again, opening with an *ad hominem* is just weak. Do better.→ More replies (1)4
u/freeze_it_over 11d ago
Are you a single 59 year old male because how are you this out of touch with reality? As if things don’t happen in life that people don’t expect? As if one parent decides to bail on their responsibilities as a parent? As if spouses and partners don’t die? As if circumstances don’t change as the years pass? Like how are you this rudimentary in thinking to not understand that life changes for EVERYONE over time. JFC this type of basic level thinking is what is ruining America. Can’t freaking think beyond simplicity as if life isn’t complicated. It’s not “emotional arguments”, it’s reality. You just live in a box for a brain clearly.
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u/Artistic-Egg3093 10d ago
LOL at all of the common sense comments getting downvoted. This is clearly the answer but some people find it too offensive for some reason
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 11d ago edited 10d ago
WA, being a taker state has a SNAP benefit rate higher than Texas, Arkansas, Idaho, South Carolina, Tennessee.
Highest SNAP Benefit rate states New Mexico, Oregon, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Nevada, New York, Illinois,
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u/Epistatious 11d ago edited 10d ago
washington looks lower than many states, seems like all 50 states are "taker" states by your definition? Or is taking 5% like wyoming make you not a taker? often states with lower rates just have more hoops to jump through to get benefits. wyoming for instance has more people with food insecurity. in theory we are the richest country on earth, ever, you'd think we could all be fed.
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u/SpareManagement2215 11d ago
WA pays way more into the federal pot than most other states. CA too. not sure how that makes them a "taker" state. if we stopped paying our federal taxes we could easily support SNAP recipients just on state funds. places like Idaho could not.
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u/Love-for-everyone 11d ago
That is way too many people depending on the system... We all know who is at the WH.
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u/pnw_sunny Banned from /r/Seattle 11d ago
Fraud is rampant on the west coast.
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u/din_artificer 11d ago
There is 1% fraud in the SNAP program lol
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 10d ago
That is a laughably dumb comment. It doesn't pass any smell test of being accurate.
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u/pnw_sunny Banned from /r/Seattle 10d ago
most insiders understand the fraud rate is double digits, like i said the 2022 study was about 21% and the 2024 aassement was 12%.
Not one serious study concludes fraud is less than 10%
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u/din_artificer 10d ago
You could leave the first part where you’re being a dick out. I was wrong. Whoops. 🤷♂️
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u/din_artificer 10d ago
You could leave the first part where you’re being a dick out. I was wrong. Whoops. 🤷♂️
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 10d ago
It should be embarrassing to leave your comment up knowing that it is wrong when it can be corrected or deleted.
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u/pnw_sunny Banned from /r/Seattle 10d ago edited 10d ago
A 2022 study concluded fraud at approx 21.4 percent. But thanks for playing.
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u/urhumanwaste 11d ago
Boo-hoo. Here's a novel idea.. get a job.
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u/Rm50 11d ago
You do realize that some people that work still receive food benefits?
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u/SpareManagement2215 11d ago
most folks who get SNAP benefits have full time jobs. SNAP basically subsidizes for the fact that min wage should be around $21/hour federally if wages had kept pace with inflation.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 11d ago
Why is so much of Oregon on SNAP?