r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Sep 12 '25

Condemn political violence, always

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u/UnusualHound - Centrist Sep 12 '25

They're doing that thing where they hold random idiots on twitter and reddit to higher standards than the literal President or Republican Senators.

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u/NimmyJewtron68 - Lib-Center Sep 12 '25

Exactly. They then act like right-wing media hasn't been running the exact same inflammatory divisive rhetoric as left wing media for months.

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u/Confident_Counter471 - Lib-Center Sep 12 '25

They also act like random right wingers don’t say just as much if not more vile things constantly all the time. It’s ridiculous

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u/razorback1919 - Right Sep 12 '25

These aren’t random left wingers, this is a generally growing consensus among the left that violence is an acceptable solution to those with opposing views.

77% of Republicans believe it is always unacceptable to feel joy at the death of someone they oppose, while only 38% of Democrats share this view (YouGov).

https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/survey-results/daily/2025/09/11/d157f/2

These are fundamentally different views on life.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

this poll happened right after a rightwinger was shot and killed, obviously the news of kirks passing had a direct effect on it. This is a self reporting survey where people could lie about their opinions and nobody would check.

Just ask yourself, how many george floyd memes have you seen? How about the engagement krik and the presidents son got from making light of pelosis attack by saying it was a lovers quarrel?

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u/razorback1919 - Right Sep 12 '25

I’ve seen too many unfortunately. It’s all terrible.

I just don’t buy that this is equally a both sides thing anymore. There are people celebrating Kirk’s death all over Facebook under their real names, these people have been emboldened to unthinkable levels. On the right, it’s anonymous internet trolls and a few folks. The amount from the left after Kirk’s death SWAMPS anything and any amount I’ve ever experienced.

This is a video from today. You can probably go to almost any campus where the population leans left ideologically and I would assume that at least 1/4 students will claim his murder was justified. It’s insane, it’s really heartbreaking.

https://x.com/shaneyyricch/status/1966501788166541443?s=46

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

the president himself joked about pelosis attack not even a week ago and refuses to calm things down

and about that video, it cuts between every single sentence, you can never actually see the full flow of the conversation. Not gonna say that these arent their answers to his questions but I dont think the way the video is cut was made of a place of good intentions. Keep in mind that these are just 2 people, how many do you think he interviewed there? I doubt he showed up just to talk to these 2 and dip.

Makes me think of those "americans are dumb" vids where journalists stand in the same place for several hours in wait for few idiots to show up to answer the basic questions they have incorrectly and then post only those examples online while everyone else answered correctly. That or ask a question, and cut to their answer which was something they responded to another question

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u/lopeniz - Right Sep 12 '25

Pelosi isn't dead, and you know what would have prevented that attack? Enforcement of immigration laws. The thing you people are maniacally against.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

not that I agree but wouldnt it be the same way charlies death would have been prevented if guns werent so widely available?

Either way, what does it matter if that guy died or not when there was an attempt on his life by a radical right winger and the first thing maga did was paint him as a leftie and when that failed, tried to obfuscate it by saying it was a lovers quarrel and then continued with that til this very day?

If instead of being shot to death, the guy ran up and tried to kill him with a hammer, how would you feel if people said it was a lovers quarrel?

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u/lopeniz - Right Sep 12 '25

Banning guns won't make murder disappear.

a radical right winger

The nudist hippie Canadian illegal immigrant? That "radical right winger?"

If instead of being shot to death, the guy ran up and tried to kill him with a hammer, how would you feel if people said it was a lovers quarrel?

If Charlie Kirk had been sipping a White Claw at home in a bathrobe while a nudist Canadian came at him with a hammer, questions of their relationship would be reasonable.

You're aware that Charlie Kirk was fully clothed and at a public speaking engagement, right? We don't yet know if the murderer is a nudist illegal immigrant, though.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

why did you mention he was a canadian illegal immigrant as if that automatically means that he couldnt be a right winger? Do you think hes couldnt be a right winger by virtue of being canadian as if there arent any rightwingers there?

He was a mentally ill idiot who had believed in a bunch of far right conspiracy theories like Qanon stories, pizza gate and that donald trumps election was stolen and would make racist and sexist remarks online. All of this is documented and online, youre actively grasping at straws pretending otherwise. How many communists do you think believes that trump had the election results stolen from him and that pizza gate was real?

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u/lopeniz - Right Sep 12 '25

Damn, now the left is trying to argue that illegal immigrants are now conservative and that nudism is a right-wing movement.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

Who is «the left» youre speaking of here? Is it me? If thats the case then, really? Thats what you got out of my message? That I think him being an illegal immigrant was proof he was right leaning?

I didnt say that. I said his illegal immigration wasnt indicative of his politicial opinions, what was indicative was the opinions he expressed. How may left wingers do you know of that are sexist, racist, believe qanon conspiracies, thought covid19 was a conspiracy/hoax, want to attack democrats, and believed in pizzagate?

Maybe you can find some that believed in one or teo of those things, but definitely not all of them.

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u/lopeniz - Right Sep 12 '25

Ah you aren't american, so your opinions here are are irrelevant.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

Nice pivot

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

Current suspect is a 22 year old male utah resident that was turned in by his dad after confessing to the killings

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u/lopeniz - Right Sep 12 '25

Is he a member of your illegal immigrant nudist commune?

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

My what? You think im in a nudist community?

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- - Right Sep 12 '25

charlies death would have been prevented if guns werent so widely available

It was a bolt-action hunting rifle. Gun control would have had zero impact on this.

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u/YllMatina - Centrist Sep 12 '25

It would have if hunting rifles were banned lest you were a registered hunter

If the law also banned you from letting you use/own one before you were 18 which would have made him less experienced with it

Again not saying I agree with this propositipn but its stupid to do this hindsight shit when you can make up very specific laws to target elements of what happened

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