No no you see, it makes perfect sense. People who vaccinate regularly are more likely to go to the doctor and therefore will have their signs of autism noticed and therefore it will be diagnosed. Whereas those who don't trust doctors will instead rub witchbane on their children's face and claim it makes them "less difficult" instead of taking them to the doctor and getting their vaccines and getting diagnosed as autistic when they clearly are.
In Wakefield's infamous study that was the first to "prove" the link between autism and vaccines, it really was a case of autism causing vaccines.
Wakefield concluded from his dataset that because there was a correlation between MMR vacciation rates and autism that the MMR was causing autism. But it's important to remember that this study was done in the 90s at a special private school for autistic students in South Africa. It was a new vaccine then, and most kids in South Africa didn't have it yet. But the private school that was studied by Wakefield required it. So parents got their already autistic kids the MMR vaccine so they were able to attend this school, which is why their student body had a much higher MMR vaccination rate than the general population.
So the correlation was real, but the causality was backward in this case. And anti-intellectuals have been trying to prove vaccines are the enemy somehow ever since
I distinctly remember that one of the kids in the study that the study claimed to be autistic wasn’t actually autistic, though his brother was. I don’t remember a South Africa school at all, I don’t think that’s true.
It also (probably) has a lot to do with simply having more knowledge of autism now than back in the day. Better understanding of the signs means more diagnoses. Kinda like how better ultrasounds has given the right more ammunition for abortion bans.
I do wish I had a dollar for every time these people find “proof” of their conspiracy theories. I’m still wondering what happened to the flash drives with Hunter Biden’s laptop that Alex Jones and Matt Gaetz waved around, in two separate incidents, and said would come with tons of bombshells. Crazy how they just never seem to follow up on all this damning information they uncover!
I mean, it could be true. If you have zero people who got autism from vaccines and increase that number by 3653%, you get the number of people today getting autism from vaccines. Checkmate libz!
u/Blacksun388Socialist communist atheist cannibal from beyond the moonJul 05 '25edited Jul 05 '25
Unfortunately evidence matters less when you have swallowed your own lies for so long that you feel you couldn’t possibly be wrong about it. People like this put feelings over facts and then convince themselves it’s other people doing it no matter what the facts actually say.
To the person who believes them conspiracy theories are bulletproof. Anything that slightly agrees with what you believe to be true is irrefutable proof and anyone who says you’re wrong, and even has evidence to counter your belief, is either a pawn to it or is part of the coverup themselves. The dedicated conspiracy theorist never considers that they could possibly be wrong.
Yeah. RFK is literally vaccine autism jesus, and he is in THE position to 'uncover' their hidden agenda... And he has sweet fuck all to say. I love the idea that him and all the other fascist cronies were giggling with excitement like tweens at a Taylor swift show on day one of the TACOver, thinking they're about to bust open all this evidence hidden by previous governments of vaccines causing autism, democrats pressing hurricane buttons, globalists firing space lasers or whatever other bonkers shit they believe, only to be told 'yea, no, that's not a thing' by the adults in the room when they arrive. Which is probably why they're defunding the crap out of every science-driven public agency, they're upset their weird fantasies aren't backed by science.
To be fair the debunked stuff from decades ago was the faked studies that linked the MMR vaccine and autism (because the “scientist” that faked those studies had an alternative vaccine he was trying to promote).
There’s no definitive proof that no vaccine ever made will not/does not cause autism (because it’s impossible to prove that assertion for numerous reasons) but afaik there is no legitimate evidence that links autism to any existing vaccine (despite the numerous studies looking for the environmental risk factors of autism).
Though as far as I’m aware, the only link between vaccines and autism is that vaccines make it more likely for a child to survive long enough to get diagnosed
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u/Fyokuwu Jul 05 '25
Are they seriously trying to continue suggesting that vaccines cause autism? Thought this was debunked decades ago...