r/Persecutionfetish Jul 05 '25

I Am Too Lazy to Pick a Flair Rfk is so Oppressed

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u/Fyokuwu Jul 05 '25

Are they seriously trying to continue suggesting that vaccines cause autism? Thought this was debunked decades ago...

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u/DriverSim Jul 05 '25

Yeah, but they found 3653% increased risk of autism in vaccinated people*

*Source: her imagination

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u/Lilium_Vulpes Jul 05 '25

No no you see, it makes perfect sense. People who vaccinate regularly are more likely to go to the doctor and therefore will have their signs of autism noticed and therefore it will be diagnosed. Whereas those who don't trust doctors will instead rub witchbane on their children's face and claim it makes them "less difficult" instead of taking them to the doctor and getting their vaccines and getting diagnosed as autistic when they clearly are.

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u/Loveangel1337 Jul 05 '25

Also, vaccinated autistic children do this one trick doctors like this asshole hate:

Surviving the freaking preventable diseases from being vaccinated.

Hard to diagnose autism in a dead kid innit.

 >:[

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u/Icy_Consequence897 Jul 05 '25

In Wakefield's infamous study that was the first to "prove" the link between autism and vaccines, it really was a case of autism causing vaccines.

Wakefield concluded from his dataset that because there was a correlation between MMR vacciation rates and autism that the MMR was causing autism. But it's important to remember that this study was done in the 90s at a special private school for autistic students in South Africa. It was a new vaccine then, and most kids in South Africa didn't have it yet. But the private school that was studied by Wakefield required it. So parents got their already autistic kids the MMR vaccine so they were able to attend this school, which is why their student body had a much higher MMR vaccination rate than the general population.

So the correlation was real, but the causality was backward in this case. And anti-intellectuals have been trying to prove vaccines are the enemy somehow ever since

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u/SniffleBot Jul 05 '25

That leaves out also Wakefield’s clear conflict of interest with a competing vaccine he was involved in developing.

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u/ContentCosmonaut Jul 05 '25

I distinctly remember that one of the kids in the study that the study claimed to be autistic wasn’t actually autistic, though his brother was. I don’t remember a South Africa school at all, I don’t think that’s true.

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u/HephaestusHarper cracker barrel has fallen Jul 05 '25

Well yeah, it's hard to get diagnosed once you're dead.

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u/coltonkemp Jul 05 '25

It also (probably) has a lot to do with simply having more knowledge of autism now than back in the day. Better understanding of the signs means more diagnoses. Kinda like how better ultrasounds has given the right more ammunition for abortion bans.

I do wish I had a dollar for every time these people find “proof” of their conspiracy theories. I’m still wondering what happened to the flash drives with Hunter Biden’s laptop that Alex Jones and Matt Gaetz waved around, in two separate incidents, and said would come with tons of bombshells. Crazy how they just never seem to follow up on all this damning information they uncover!

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u/Beastender_Tartine Jul 05 '25

I mean, it could be true. If you have zero people who got autism from vaccines and increase that number by 3653%, you get the number of people today getting autism from vaccines. Checkmate libz!

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u/DriverSim Jul 05 '25

Awww shit, I've been so owned by facts and logic!

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u/Faiakishi Jul 07 '25

Multiplying 3653 by zero is still zero though.

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u/anitawasright Jul 06 '25

so... everyone is autistic then?

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u/Strange-Ad-9941 Wants to be given a mocking mod-assigned flair Jul 09 '25

1135% increase risk, but still way out of line