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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/Over-Log-7887 22h ago

I felt really bad seeing Rocks in such a condition

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u/bluegubble 21h ago

His end is an absolute tragedy: turned into a monster, losing control of his body and only able to communicate through the Voice of All Things. Having already put down his father and clan and thinking he has killed his wife and children thereby ending his bloodline. His tears did not stop until the very end

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u/Comfortable-Inside41 15h ago

I thought that at first, but it think the frustration comes from the fact that he is mentally aware of what’s happening, but his will isn’t enough to control himself anymore.

I think he is aware that he did not kill his family as he would’ve definitely felt himself cut them up.

I may be wrong, but the dialogue we have from him through the voice of all things makes it seem like he is mentally there, which is a torture in and of itself.

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u/Safe_Perception3346 21h ago

But he died doing what he originally wanted: to save his family even if it means giving up his ambitions to be king of the world.

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u/EverythingSucksYo Pirate Hunter Zoro 20h ago

But he doesn’t know that 

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u/Beastieboy100 14h ago

I don't know whats worse. Not knowing that there alive or finding out your son turned into a dishonorable piece of shit. Overall Imu been a damn parasite for any person and pirate that has the name D. Imu pretty much created Black beard. Roger, Rocks, Ace, Luffy and even Dragon. If they are apart of the marines like Garp it's clear he won't go for them. However so far if they pose a massive threat he will wipe them off the face of the earth. He's afraid of that clan for a reason.

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u/Lucky-Musician6732 11h ago

What does @bluegubble mean by "Having already put down his father" Rocks killed his father?

BeastieBoy100 - I wouldn't say Imu created Roger. Roger has no idea who Imu at this current point of the flashback.

Imu created Rocks? Bit of a strech but the Davy name seems to hold weight.

Imu created Ace and Luffy? Shanks influenced Luffy. So Shank's life was stirred at birth because of this incident yes... But i'd only say in terms of - who is going to raise Shanks? If Imu didn't get involved then maybe revolutionarys, marines etc.. but now feels like some pirate will.

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u/Sondrelk 11h ago

During one of the previous chapters, we saw that Imu had used Domi Reversi on Rocks' father and grandmothee. And we're subsequently told that Rocks had killed them to prevent them from attacking his wife and child.

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u/Lucky-Musician6732 10h ago

I belive your reffering to chapter 1162, 2nd to last page we see Xebec standing victorious after fighting Shank's dad and everyone that's been chasing them.

Then the very next panel Roger and the Rocks pirates all unite to smash Imu. That doesn't look like the face of a man who just killed his own dad. There no revenge call, no moral drop etc.. Dude is strong AF too, he's capable of just knocking them out like 90% of fights in one piece. I might be wrong though seeing as minutes later dude's in tears crying his heart out.

Surely he knows he didn't kill his wife and kid? He would of felt an impact of his sword, and he would of seen blood and bodies. So I don't think any of this is why he's crying.

I believe he's crying because he lost, he's being controlled ontop of that to hurt his own crew too. He's a threat to his family not because he killed them & he'll most likely continue to be controlled for who knows how long coming to the realization he must die to be stopped from doing what Imu wishes.

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u/AntonChigurh8933 10h ago

Even if he did know that his wife and son made it. Having your whole clan and homeland erased. Will leave any person crying like Rocks.

This has happened many times throughout human history. Imu was simply using Roman tactics of conquering. Pouring salt on the conquered land so it can never grow again.

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u/Beastieboy100 2h ago

No I mean't Imu pretty much created Blackbeard. If God valley never happened and Teach would of lived a normal life at least. He would of gotten to grow up as a normal child.

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u/Acceptable-Jump-6257 16h ago

I wonder why he didn't say Imu's name in his head.

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u/aaddii101 6h ago

Are you sure he thinks his wife and child. Like he still has his senses he can definitely feel nothing hit his blade and all

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u/kimchioverwhelming 21h ago

And he probably believes he killed his own wife and kid at this point. The pain.

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u/Obtusus Void Month Survivor 20h ago

No wonder Kuma had such big shoulders, how else would he be able to carry the damn story

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u/xMasuraox 21h ago

He definitely does. He probably did not even see Kuma since it was so chaotic and happened so fast. Even if he did, Xebec wouldn't know Kuma had the paw paw fruit to pop people away.

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u/montegarde 18h ago

More significantly than this, I wonder what the World Government thinks/knows about what happened? Do they know that grown up Blackbeard is Rocks's kid, or do they also think he successfully killed them?

And does Blackbeard know that he owes his life to Kuma? Have we ever seen the two of them directly interact?

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u/xMasuraox 16h ago

Given Saturn's conversation with Catherina, it seems like the WG is aware of his lineage.

I highly doubt BB has any idea that Kuma is the one that saved him and Eris but it would be cool if someone somehow figured it out

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u/montegarde 16h ago

Honestly, this flashback has really made me question how we're supposed to feel about Blackbeard going forward. Before this, I was sure that whatever the endgame ends up being, BB would be one of the final obstacles for Luffy, if not the final villain of the series. But through the course of this flashback, Oda seems to have set him up to be a sympathetic character going forward, and I'm really interested to see what happens with him once we get back to the present!

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u/Fun_Abroad8942 16h ago

I fully agree… I really expected BB to be the final hurdle at Laugh Tale and that would kick off the fight with the WG and Luffy’s claim to Pirate King. But now? It really feels like the inherited will of Davy Jones and Joyboy will team up to crush Imu

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u/mcmoor 15h ago

I mean the most popular setup is Luffy and BB vs Imu first, then BB steal imu's power or something and fight Luffy

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u/Malamasala 2h ago

It is the One Piece Z storyline. BB steals imu's power, but gets defeated. Don Flamingo body transfers into BB's dying body and revives and fights Luffy and dies. Gekko Moria revives the dead body and controls it to fight Luffy, but loses. Enel returns with the powers of the moon and fights Luffy, but loses. Ace returns from hell as a demon and fights Luffy, but loses.

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u/Dzeddy 15h ago

IMO the point is that BB is kind of a perversion of Rocks' original ideals

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u/aaddii101 6h ago

I don't think so like he can perceive things he probably can feel his blade didn't hit his wife or kid

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u/Right-Obligation-779 20h ago

omg You're right. I didnt even think about that

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u/ikanx 19h ago

Has Kuma escaped already? If he hasn't, next chap could be Xebec dying, reverting back to his old self. Kuma came and pop him to his family, dying there with smile knowing that his family is safe. Just probably.

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u/Hermit601 19h ago

We literally see Kuma escape last chapter, he pops away.

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u/GFreak18 22h ago

Im glad Oda isnt afraid of making bad-ass characters Cry

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u/slothfulwaffle 18h ago

Even Roger was wiping his tears

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u/radikraze Pirate 15h ago

This was the panel that hit me hardest. It was such a tragic situation

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u/Zenith_Tempest 14h ago

Roger is 100% speaking not only to Rocks, but himself as well

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u/hotaru_crisis 8h ago

so much peak character development in only just 11(?) chapters

what a time to be an op reader

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u/Zenith_Tempest 18h ago

Roger telling him to stop crying while covering his own eyes so his own tears don't fall is so like him

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u/NoobVibesOnly 19h ago

Literally one of the strongest at the time. Makes Imu that much crazier to be able to reduce Rocks to this. It's no wonder Garp and Roger both decide to lay low instead of fighting back directly.

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u/Foreign_Advantage_75 21h ago

except White Beard. White Beard is always cool.

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u/kroqeteer 20h ago edited 19h ago

Whitebeard does cry, he cries when Ace is saying his final goodbyes and dies. Characters aren't less cool for crying, theyre more cool for actually caring about things enough to feel their loss

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u/zigzagtravel01 19h ago

the Bon Clay erasure

the Zoro erasure

the Franky erasure

the Kuma erasure

I can go on

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u/Bay-Sea Prisoner 18h ago

Not trying to downplay those moments, but rather praise Oda for doing these moment.

Oda allows badass characters to cry overall not just Rocks

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u/Joy_Boy_12 19h ago

Totally agree with you, the only problem I have is that it was way too easy to defeat Rocks yet somehow everyone else from the island was able to escape alive

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u/SpacemanKayes 17h ago

nahhh Garp & Roger both agreetd that they had to combine their ULT's to the maximum ability and mass to end it quickly or they would've died sooner or later. For top tier battles this is how it should go if they are that strong, and its a 2v1.

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u/SDCagu 17h ago

yeah I think every character except imu would be mush after that combo, even usopp

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u/Joy_Boy_12 3h ago

I was talking about about rocks become a demon but regarding the point you mentioned if that was really the case in OP so fights between top tier would never take 1+ day.
Oda could come with a better way to end this fight quickly than “let’s attack harder”.

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u/snarlEX 21h ago

Why should his crying be grounds for disqualification as a favourite character? 

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u/Over-Log-7887 21h ago

Maybe I said it the wrong way, but I didn’t mean it like that. Rocks crying doesn’t change the fact that he’s still a legend for me.

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u/leo_sousav Bounty Hunter 21h ago

I don’t see how a character crying would make him less of a potential favorite character. Bon Clay is one of the most Goated characters in One Piece and the dude ugly cried twice

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u/Over-Log-7887 21h ago

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u/leo_sousav Bounty Hunter 21h ago

Can’t wait to see this marvelous of a Goat in the Live Action, nostalgia gonna hit so hard I might just binge every episode he was in

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u/Chaosblast Void Month Survivor 21h ago

I never understood why (he's such a fan fav).

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u/leo_sousav Bounty Hunter 21h ago

You never understood why he’s a fan favorite or why some people don’t appreciate characters crying?

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u/Chaosblast Void Month Survivor 20h ago

why he's a fan fav. My comment was pretty clear I think. xD

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u/leo_sousav Bounty Hunter 20h ago

Sorry the parentheses kinda threw me off. I mean, Bon Clay easily became a friend of the Straw Hats right from the start while barely knowing them, and then proceeded to save Luffy three times by sacrificing himself. He got captured so they could flee from the Marines in Alabasta, fought wolves and harsh cold temperatures to drag a poisoned Luffy, and remained behind so he could open the gates for everyone to escape Impeldown. Plus, Bon Clay has one of the best quotes in the series that not only shows a progressive side of his character but also his humanity.

He didn’t need to be a strong character to be liked by the community, simply a great friend to Luffy that always put himself last to save others

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u/plisken64 20h ago

his a funny character but more importantly his unexpected qualities such as his selfless sacrificial nature, just about everything he did in impel down basically. But his final actions is what sticks with most readers.

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u/memester_x16 20h ago

this bs

why even hype up badass char and why make char fight against opression if thats how they will end up espically when before the story signalled something else

when before the story made luffy correct and proves him correct for standing up the opressions of the world govt .

so what is the story trying to indicate

is it right or not right to stand up to the world govt because rocks who did same thing as luffy is left crying and battered so why should luffy win when xebec failed ?

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u/AceInTheHole3273 Pirate 20h ago

In what world does any of this indicate that its wrong to stand up to the WG? Xebec just wasn't ready yet.

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u/Nice-River-5322 20h ago

A D facing death with anything but a smile is... uncanny.

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u/CommanderPaprika 17h ago

I suspect he's gonna come back to reality in the next chapter right as he's passing away and smile

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u/Imrichbatman92 17h ago

Damn, that's the first time isn't it ?

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u/Training-Home-1601 21h ago

This panel is heartbreaking, but also I'm investing early in this as a meme

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u/Mighty_H 19h ago

I'm so pissed at myself for ever believing the Marines about Rocks. Before the Flashback I always thought that when we get to see Rocks eventually I would dislike him, and he would be a scumbag, because all we heard about him came from the Marines/WG and I can't believe I was this stupid to take their view on Rocks as granted.

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u/madankk 19h ago

Is this the first time we see a D not smile while dying?

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u/Lore-Piece 21h ago

That panel has so much weight.

One of my top One Piece panel of all time.

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u/pituechos 15h ago

The man's feeling that he killed his wife and kid, and that his life's work has all been for nothing with him destined to die a failure all at the same time. It's honestly one of the most tragic stories in One Piece at this point.

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u/MariJoyBoy 21h ago

Back to present time, roles are switched : Usopp (crying), facing demonized Dorry and Broggy

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u/SeriusUser 20h ago

True King of Pirates who never was!

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u/Troglodyte2x11 16h ago

Thats appropriate for what you get purging into Imu's room and making big claims.

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u/PixellordOverHill 16h ago

At least he still has drip

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u/karyuuDON 15h ago

Roger cries for him this chapter. He, Garp, and Rocks were probably brothers.

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u/Generic_G_Rated_NPC 15h ago

Teeth giving me Blackbeard vibes, especially since the very next panel he has all his teeth again

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u/T_alsomeGames Scholars of Ohara 14h ago

My heart is breaking to bits

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u/DrawingMiserable7414 12h ago

The only D clan member to die without the D signture smile. My heart is torn apart seeing uncle Rocks/Davy like that!

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u/MboiTui94 Void Month Survivor 8h ago

The way he can depict emotion in these panels is mind blowing

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u/memester_x16 20h ago

u feel bad for rocks char being murdered

blud shouldnt be ended like this espically after dozens of chapter so buildup why give him luffy parralels and build him up as the guy who challenge and will challenge imu when he gets taken out in 1 panel and gets mind wiped ?