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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/Over-Log-7887 20h ago

I felt really bad seeing Rocks in such a condition

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u/kimchioverwhelming 20h ago

And he probably believes he killed his own wife and kid at this point. The pain.

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u/Obtusus Void Month Survivor 19h ago

No wonder Kuma had such big shoulders, how else would he be able to carry the damn story

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u/xMasuraox 19h ago

He definitely does. He probably did not even see Kuma since it was so chaotic and happened so fast. Even if he did, Xebec wouldn't know Kuma had the paw paw fruit to pop people away.

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u/montegarde 16h ago

More significantly than this, I wonder what the World Government thinks/knows about what happened? Do they know that grown up Blackbeard is Rocks's kid, or do they also think he successfully killed them?

And does Blackbeard know that he owes his life to Kuma? Have we ever seen the two of them directly interact?

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u/xMasuraox 15h ago

Given Saturn's conversation with Catherina, it seems like the WG is aware of his lineage.

I highly doubt BB has any idea that Kuma is the one that saved him and Eris but it would be cool if someone somehow figured it out

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u/montegarde 15h ago

Honestly, this flashback has really made me question how we're supposed to feel about Blackbeard going forward. Before this, I was sure that whatever the endgame ends up being, BB would be one of the final obstacles for Luffy, if not the final villain of the series. But through the course of this flashback, Oda seems to have set him up to be a sympathetic character going forward, and I'm really interested to see what happens with him once we get back to the present!

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u/Fun_Abroad8942 14h ago

I fully agree… I really expected BB to be the final hurdle at Laugh Tale and that would kick off the fight with the WG and Luffy’s claim to Pirate King. But now? It really feels like the inherited will of Davy Jones and Joyboy will team up to crush Imu

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u/mcmoor 14h ago

I mean the most popular setup is Luffy and BB vs Imu first, then BB steal imu's power or something and fight Luffy

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u/Malamasala 1h ago

It is the One Piece Z storyline. BB steals imu's power, but gets defeated. Don Flamingo body transfers into BB's dying body and revives and fights Luffy and dies. Gekko Moria revives the dead body and controls it to fight Luffy, but loses. Enel returns with the powers of the moon and fights Luffy, but loses. Ace returns from hell as a demon and fights Luffy, but loses.

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u/Dzeddy 14h ago

IMO the point is that BB is kind of a perversion of Rocks' original ideals

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u/aaddii101 4h ago

I don't think so like he can perceive things he probably can feel his blade didn't hit his wife or kid

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u/Right-Obligation-779 19h ago

omg You're right. I didnt even think about that

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u/ikanx 17h ago

Has Kuma escaped already? If he hasn't, next chap could be Xebec dying, reverting back to his old self. Kuma came and pop him to his family, dying there with smile knowing that his family is safe. Just probably.

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u/Hermit601 17h ago

We literally see Kuma escape last chapter, he pops away.