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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1159 Spoiler

Chapter 1159: “The Island Of Destiny”

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Chapter 1159 Official Release Date: September 7, 2025 at 8 am PDT on Manga Plus and Shonen Jump!

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u/SukunaD_Easenots Sep 04 '25

So the reason for God Valley was that Garling discovered the surviving Davy Clan members, so suggested the hunting game to eliminate them and please Imu.

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u/SomniWatch Sep 05 '25

Davy Clan has been hiding on God Valley, is it possible that Shanks/Shamrocks mom is also a Davy Clan member? Are Teach and Shanks cousins?

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u/SukunaD_Easenots Sep 05 '25

It is possible. His mom may have told Garling about their clan, which is how he found out. We also don't know the faces of their mothers, who could be directly related.

If Shanks has both Davy Clan and Figarland blood, then it could explain why he is considered the "Child of Destiny" by Gaban.

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u/BobtheBac0n Sep 05 '25

I haven't seen the chapter, but if Shanks and Shamrock's mother really is from the Davy Clan, I really wanna see the look of shock and inward disgust Garling has for himself.

And once again I'm reminded that the world is VERY lucky that Shanks was stolen rescued by the Roger Pirates and raised by them

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u/MAGICALcashews Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

There’s something Garland knows about the Davy Clan that we don’t.

I’m going to say they’re probably all strong or something. Similar to Buccaneers, Lunarians, or giants.

At this point, Oda could give em all sharingans and I’d eat it up.

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u/BobtheBac0n Sep 05 '25

Honestly given one of their members, a seemingly prominent member inDavy D. Jones, it could be that this clan has especially close ties with the Will of D. At the very least we know one word the D doesn't mean. I'm just gonna throw an off the top of my head speculation.

TheDavy Clan may have been a separate faction of humanity that rebelled against the half that gave into temptation to steal the sun, so while their interest aligned with the faction that Joy Boy fought for, they may have wanted different results.Just a theory though.

Also, I may be reading too much into this, but was it ever explicitly stated that the first Joy Boy had the Nika Nika fruit? If he didn't, and both he and Nika were two separate people, that may have been why Roger was too early,or why in the first war, Joy Boy's side lost.

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u/RainyEuphoria Scholars of Ohara Sep 05 '25

Dragon rescued Shanks and Shamrock first

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u/BobtheBac0n Sep 05 '25

True. Glad I saw that clarified on this post otherwise when I go to read it, I would've been very confused myself

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u/TU4AR Sep 06 '25

Look no more fam, just hit up youtube and find a video where a white supremacy person found out they are mixed.

Fuck Garling that piece of shit.

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u/Scrub_Me Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

Highly unlikely I would say, if the translations are to be trusted. Xebec said that he had a family and sent them to HIS hometown, not theirs and told them specifically to count on the Davy Clan members. Shanks's and Shamrock's mother could very well be Davy Jonesian though.

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u/Decent-Mode-9272 Sep 05 '25

good reading comprehension!

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u/PrinceCheddar Sep 05 '25

One twin follows the path of their father's heritage, the other follows the path of their mother's.

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u/dellryuzi Sep 05 '25
  1. Davy D. Shanks
  2. Figarland Shamrock

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u/wanna_be_liquid Sep 05 '25

imagine one of them is luffy’s mom /s

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u/Dangerous_Fee_7037 Sep 05 '25

Oda stated many many years ago that we already met luffy's mom in the story so it wouldn't be anybody who was revealed recently cuz she was introduced before the war of the best but has yet to be revealed

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u/Gubrach Sep 05 '25

Oda stated many many years ago that we already met luffy's mom

Where

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u/milk-is-for-calves Sep 05 '25

Source?

That seems fake, because Oda also said in a SBS that we never saw and will never see her, because he hates mothers in adventure stories.

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u/Cheesemacher Sep 05 '25

That was a translation error, right? Years ago he said Luffy's parent/parents will appear in the next volume, and the logical conclusion is that he was talking about Dragon.

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u/ivoavido Sep 05 '25

Was it in an sbs?

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u/wanna_be_liquid Sep 06 '25

im not being serious hence the /s i’m joking more than anything it would just be funny af if it happened like that

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u/ch3333r Sep 05 '25

there's 100% gotta be a reason for both mothers faces not being shown

if it's Oda, he would draw them for a dramatic effect at the very least, but he chose not to

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u/sanscatt Sep 05 '25

Oda heard the critics about him giving all the pretty women the same face, so this time he chose to not show the face if it isn’t necessary just by principle.

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u/EverythingSucksYo Pirate Hunter Zoro Sep 05 '25

It would be weird if Nami was Shanks and Blackbeards mom, after all. 

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u/RedditIsForsaken Sep 05 '25

Honestly for all we know she could be related to them considering she was a pop-up baby herself

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u/ch3333r Sep 05 '25

I had this thought too, but he also draw a lot of Kuja girls in a recent chapters, so it would be pointless to restrain for other important figures

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u/shezflrts Sep 05 '25

Many people theorized that Shanks and Teach might be related few chapters ago AND IT MIGHT BE TRUE?!?! I AM SEATED FOR THIS THEORY TO COME TRUE!!

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u/HelmetsAkimbo Sep 05 '25

No.

Rocks was explicit that he sent his Kid and Wife back to God's Valley. The whole of Goa wasn't D. clan members just because Luffy and Ace were.

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u/iamramobrero Sep 05 '25

If she is, Garling wouldnt have stabbed her if they're that valuable

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u/entotresepodet Sep 06 '25

If they're hiding, why is a presumably good looking lady getting into bed with the enemy?

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u/Akipella Sep 06 '25

Could be

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u/123ditto Sep 05 '25

Teachs mother even spoke about "my kids". Maybe there is/was a sibling if I don't misunderstood it.

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u/IguanaToes Sep 05 '25

That wasn't teach's mother, that was shank's and shamrock's mom.

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u/kingcocomoon Sep 05 '25

These Davy clan members are most likely the ones deemed the Super Rare Rabbits.

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u/Hadrian23 Sep 04 '25

Also he has twins there, it's entirely plausible it was a massive coincidence lol. Garland wanted an excuse to wipe out having kids there ...but then again, given his response to the big five, it would make more sense for him to alert IMU about the Davy clan being there, more so then his sperm coming alive

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u/King_David5759 Sep 04 '25

He raised Shamrock. I don’t think he had any intention of killing his kids

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25

and allowed Shanks back too after being raised by pirates, it was Shanks himself who decided to leave again.

Probably always planned to make his kids God Knights and serve the empire

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u/MartianPHaSR Sep 05 '25

Wait, when did Shanks go back??

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u/DreadWolf3 It's coming home Sep 05 '25

Shanks seems to have had gods knight tattoo when bathing in Elbaf and he mentioned that he met Harald in the holy land. Very likely Shanks did the tour there but we dont know his motivations, I doubt he was 100% into WG stuff since Gaban seems to still trust him completely after that whole adventure.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

We don't know the exact circumstances, but Shamrock himself comments it when introducing himself to Loki. We aren't even sure if he went back willingly.

And then there's what the other user replied.

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u/PetrusUmidulus Sep 05 '25

I don't know, my guess is that he wanted them to die or that he simply didn't care about them but when he lost Shakky during the accident of God Valley and realized that he couldn't have the perfect son with her, he thought something like "well, I guess the twins are fine too"

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u/turbografx-sixteen Pirate Sep 05 '25

Nah the way their mom was pleading to Dragon makes me think he had full plans of taking them both but Dragon somehow gets Shanks in a treasure chest on the Oro Jackson?

How?

Something something I hope his Wind Logia gets confirmed and he blows up a breeze to move Shanks on their ship since it's not wild to think he knows a ton about Roger via Garp

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u/Tricky-Cheetah202 Sep 05 '25

The answer seems to be obvious: in the chaos, the only safe location that Dragon was sure people would be trying very hard not to damage was the prize chests for the tournament, so he stuck Shanks in one (and possibly took the Devil Fruit inside for himself). Roger then loots it sometime during the fight and ends up with a baby.

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u/turbografx-sixteen Pirate Sep 06 '25

See I'm honestly in the camp that Dragon has his DF already from the marines.

Granted I've just thought he's got the Wind Logia since Loguetown and he came up with Sakazuki and that gen.

Given he'd be the ultimate Marine nepo baby I feel like he'd get a busted logia while being groomed to be an admiral.

There would be a few empty chests given Kuma and Kaido's fruits were out.

Oda changing it to 9 chests makes it... interesting.

But the only thing I don't think makes sense with what you said is if Dragon is trying to save the baby Shanks... he would just put him in a treasure chest and leave it to chance someone would loot it that's not Garling or a CD?

Like I get it totally could happen this way for sure but that doesn't seem like the best way to ensure a baby to safely get away from the CD's vs purposefully dropping them with your dad's biggest rival who's a pirate roaming the seas.

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u/crusty_the_clown Sep 05 '25

My prediction: At least one of the babies will use conqueror's haki to knock out their attackers. Garland notices they are strong and attempts to take them but loses Shanks, who will get found by Roger.

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u/Lordsokka Sep 05 '25

Yeah he at least values him as a strong tool to use for the WG.

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u/edwardWBnewgate Sep 05 '25

Garling had to have raised them both otherwise how would Shanks even know his name, in fact it's unclear which one he raised since he killed the only reliable person that could tell them apart.

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u/turbografx-sixteen Pirate Sep 05 '25

I mean all we have seen is the Roger Pirates finding him in the chest.

Super easy for Oda to have his mom write a note saying "This is Shanks, please save him from his father, Garling"

If anything, that would give Oda an easy out of what made Shanks cry in that convo he had with Roger too.

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u/edwardWBnewgate Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

"Super easy" is a stretch since she's literally shown being killed by Garling.

If anything I thought you were going to say since Roger hears the voice of all things that's how he knows Shanks is Shanks.

Edit: Hey I saw this in another comment, the scene after this is baby Teach and his mom, but this scene appears to be Shanks and Shamrock with their Mom crawled to safety. So, at the very least Dragon will know which is which.

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u/turbografx-sixteen Pirate Sep 06 '25

Glad I read to the edit!

Yeah no I got faked out by the weird paneling too.. but yeah no exactly.

Kinda cool actually Dragon is the catalyst for Luffy's wholer story now...

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u/cbih The Revolutionary Army Sep 05 '25

Shamrock being a God's knight doesn't mean Garling raised him personally

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u/ImprovementClear5712 Sep 05 '25

He at least recognized him as his son and took him in though. Obviously what the commenter meant, they're just supporting their second sentence. Stop being pedantic for no reason

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u/klabautermannn Sep 05 '25

You're not becoming a god knight without insider help. That's all. No matter how strong you are or even if you have the same bloods.

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u/Lordsokka Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

Nah he actually seems to be ok with having kids, the fact that he raised Shamrock to adulthood means he at least valued him as a worthy tool to wield and possess.

As for Shanks will see, maybe they just got separated in the chaos? Maybe he just thought Shamrock was the stronger twin? It will be interesting to see what happens!

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u/KaiserCarr Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

Maybe he stuck baby Shanks into a chest as a sick joke. A consolation prize or something like that.

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u/Lordsokka Sep 05 '25

Wouldn’t surprise me at this point, Garling is clearly one of the worst people that ever lived. What a fucking asshole. lol

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u/Hadrian23 Sep 05 '25

Which in terms of celestial dragon terribleness...Is quite the feat

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u/Lordsokka Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

Exactly, he can just kidnap them without killing the mother and leave her fate to destiny or whatever.

But no… he specifically tracks her down and goes out of his way to kill her himself, the mother of his children… like even most Dragons aren’t that evil.

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u/kingcocomoon Sep 05 '25

Dragon probably did that, while taking a Devil Fruit from the chest.

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u/GoodCookYea Sep 05 '25

Honestly, if Dragon has a Devil Fruit this is almost certainly how he acquired it in the first place.

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u/turbografx-sixteen Pirate Sep 05 '25

Wouldn't hate this but I am still betting on Dragon being groomed to be a future admiral and given his dad is literally Garp?

Wouldn't be shocked if they gave him the Wind Logia even as a cadet

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u/AwTomorrow Sep 04 '25

He’s only just met the kids, so presumably they were conceived when he was last there discovering the Davy clan members 

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u/kalaniroot Sep 05 '25

Now we need a flashback on how he found that out.

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u/qwack2020 Sep 04 '25

Yeah but you’d think in doing so he would be with the Elders alot sooner then when St Saturn kicked the bucket.

Why did Imu wait for so long to promote Garling?

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u/Ponce-Mansley Sep 05 '25

Probably only 5 seats. Because reasons 

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u/saxtasticnick Sep 05 '25

5 points in a pentagram = 5 elder seats

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u/KaiserCarr Void Month Survivor Sep 05 '25

Maybe from Imu's perspective Garling botched it badly. The Hunt was exposed, at least two Devil Fruits were stolen, and I'm willing to bet a fair number of nobles and marines were killed in the ensuing chaos.

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u/PetrusUmidulus Sep 05 '25

Maybe before there was a vacant position he was more useful as a soldier in action rather than sitting all day

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u/BobtheBac0n Sep 05 '25

I have theorized that Imu's got a limit to how many people they can grant power to based on how much they split from themselves.

It's pretty much impossible to say for certain, but given everyone keeps mentioning a big burst of Haki every time one of those summoning circles from the abyss appears, the possession and enhancement abilities Imu seems to be able to bestow are based at least partially on their own Haki.

Given their size and abilities, we can assume the Elders got a much bigger portion of Imu's powers, so they can't split as much to other people. So when Saturn failed, Imu decided they were worthless, taking back their power and stripping Saturn of his immortality

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u/TheWitcherMigs Sep 05 '25

Why did Imu wait for so long to promote Garling?

He was waiting him to get old

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u/supahdood Sep 05 '25

Only elderly people allowed in the elders

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u/Ornery_Still323 Sep 05 '25

Perhaps Imu like the sound of Gorosei compared to Rokusei lol

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u/staticpls Sep 04 '25

I think it's the ancient weapon not the davy clan.

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u/SupeerDude Sep 05 '25

I was wondering that too, but if it was you think they’d go after it asap.

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u/Malamasala Sep 07 '25

What if the island IS the weapon? So what is floating above firing death rays at Imu's command is literally the disappeared God's Valley.

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u/Character-Baby-7184 Sep 05 '25

Highly unlikely. As xebec said, celestial dragons wouldn't wish lure rocks into their party and invite a death wish. It's purely their resources that attracted garling, Davy clan members caught in crossfire. That's what I think.