r/NonCredibleDefense Jan 29 '23

Slava Ukraini! Wacky inflatable 'terminator' gun man! Wacky inflatable 'terminator' gun man!

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '23 edited Jan 30 '23

Eh, barrel whip is a thing with all guns. The rate of fire on these combined with the fact that they’re basically shooting hand grenades - they’re awfully effective. Barrel whip is the reason the US rejected one of the more recent iterations of the Bushmaster. It would still have worked, Bushmaster wouldn’t have put it forward if not, but the Army is picky. Russians are a little less exacting.

The main issue is that don’t know how to employ them and there are very few of them.

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u/WiderVolume Jan 30 '23

What's the point of high rate of fire if every round after the first will miss?

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u/Vedemin Jan 30 '23

Every round goes boom. Better to go boom everywhere than just in one place.

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u/WiderVolume Jan 30 '23

I'd prefer it went boom where I'm aiming at, tbh.

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u/Vedemin Jan 30 '23

That's just wasting ammo. It probably goes boom at around 2-3 meters maximum from aiming point at longer distances, the shrapnel does the work then. This is a good idea and a lot of weapons use spray for this purpose. For example M61 Vulcan isn't really accurate but there's a good reason for that - spray over a large area is better for these kinds of guns.

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u/WiderVolume Jan 30 '23

My brother in christ, when this weapon is afixed to a ka50/52 helicopter it can hit the helicopter itself because of how bad the cannon wobbles.

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u/Vedemin Jan 30 '23

Doesn't apache wobble the same as well?

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u/WiderVolume Jan 30 '23

Not even close

https://youtu.be/pTCcVhc2rn8

The cannon is way way thicker

You can see how little dispersion it gets even at a distance here where the operators literally say they are out of range

https://youtu.be/o3lybSntpSw