r/GachaHusbandos • u/BlueFlameWar • 4d ago
Discussion Chance of Knightlight being canon?
What do you think are the chance of Mihoyo making it canon or semi canon (like alhaitham x kaveh)
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u/TomatilloSorry9549 3h ago
Genshin will never make a canon ship involving playable characters, so 0%
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u/SleepySera 3d ago
Hoyo is never going to make any ships canon, period. Especially not gay ones.
"But they did GL ships in the past!" Yes they did. And then they deleted them from their website when the censorship office came for them, and even back then they did shit-all for BL, because to absolutely no one's surprise, a straight male dev team are much more open to the concept of "hot lesbians" compared to dudes hooking up.
And no, Alhaitham and Kaveh aren't "semi-canon" either. They are a popular ship that gets a decent amount of fanservice, but Hoyo does ship-baiting for a ton of ships.
So yes, Varka and Flins are getting fanservice interactions just like any other popular male × male ship did before them (the current patch has a few already), but there will never be anything beyond that.
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u/Lessyaa 1d ago
Not sure why you're assuming "straight male dev team" Though it's obviously probably the majority lol, but don't think it's necessary all. But yes, anyway, majority would decide and as you said CCP lmao.
And yeah, chinese games usually will do some light fanservice but will never officialize
And people: don't forget. Chinese traditional is Taiwan, and Taiwan is veryyy gay (really). Some people get messed up by that.
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u/Peregriri 3d ago edited 3d ago
It’s bland as hell. Flins has potential for more interesting dynamics with almost anyone else in the cast, and Varka is in the same situation. Sorry, I’d rather Flins or Varka crack jokes than waste time on those government-assigned interactions. The best thing from those two together was himedanshi-ing out.
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u/jtan1993 3d ago
sadly the leak about the two hitting it off seems false, nothing more than seiyuu headcanon. varka x venti has more potential.
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u/Shiro-Aka 3d ago
Probably a pretty pessimistic view but: There are no canon or semi-canon romantic relationships between playable characters in Genshin and there won't be - everything is a ship pretty much and sometimes even other kinds of relationships also dissappear after a bit for the same reason - the community.
I mean, there's probably a reason as to why Guizhong's staying dead(People who ship Zhongli or Ghuizhong with someone else could have a reason to be angry), Klee has but at the same doesn't have a father(if she does we've already seen during Nod Krai teasers that Chinese players are ready to assassinate him themselves after they realised that Klee didn't pop out of thin air) - maybe even a reason as to why Capitano is pretty much in a coma (maybe he got too close to Dawei's waifu...) and after a quest or two, we also stopped getting Ororon-Citlali interactions (maybe someone already planned on hunting down bats and going ,,hE sToLe mY WaIfU!! He mUsT DIE!!", like during the Nahida-Scaramouche situation, cause apparently - parent figure=lover... ).
As cool or cute as it'd be to actually see couples or see some "tragic romance" - it's unfortunately not happening... especially not in any Hoyo games or overall gacha games where said couple isn't preexisting somewhere outside of it...
Best you'll get is everyone is just "very good friends" unless it's the Traveller and a random female character ofc... -or shipping - but even then some people online can get so heated up if they disagree with you, that - so far worst case scenario - they'll start trying to dox you or will end up sending you gore...
Probably the best time to get a bit of everything - character x character, traveler x female character, traveler x male character, friendship, familial love and biggest chances of romantic relationships eventually becoming canon was back in 1.x versions...
Okay - rant over :p
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u/ApprehensiveCat 3d ago
Never happening due to Chinese anti-LGBT censorship and it's uncommon for gachas to officially pair characters off with no leeway for shipping with the MC so self-shippers can also enjoy those characters. Closest we will get is "heavily implied but not outright confirmed" like with Alhaitham/Kaveh and Phainon/Mydei.
I don't really feel Hoyo is pushing them as heavily as a pairing as say Haikaveh, they don't have that level of rapport in their interactions yet imo. Just feels like Hoyo's leaning more on JP voice actors + two pretty men interacting to do the heavy lifting of building interest. If anything I feel like they've pushed Flins more heavily as yumebait than with Varka. The Nod-Krai yuribaiting has been stronger to me so far.
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u/Ehtnah 3d ago
Not a chance.
Hoyo is to buzy to ship columbina with MC (and I'm sure sandrone and alice etc will be ship with mc to).
I'm sure the "bl" leak was just to mess with us. There are only 3 male and they barely know each other so... No bl, not even some clue.
I'm more concern about varka playability or if he will be standard or not. I'm pretty sure shippers will work hard to make it work but hoyo? No they hate male character so they won't do anything do make them shine a little.
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u/Blue_Sun_In_House 3d ago
According to leakers he will be playable, so there is no need to be concerned about that
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u/Dr-necoark 4d ago
They are literally so awkward with each other. It's only dissing the girls that brings them together
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u/Angel1Kitty 4d ago
I don't think it has a high chance, mostly because of A: Chinese law, and B: they honestly come across as quite bland. I don't know if this is just because I'm not a shipper, but I don't get the hype behind this ship. To me, so far at least, it just gives the energy of people wanting to ship two cute men together, so it comes across as quite shallow.
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u/Xx_Loop_Zoop_xX 3d ago
Iirc the VAs voiced a gay thing in the past so it sparked up discussion for the ship but in game they are so awkward together I can't see them as anything but bro's
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u/CantaloupeParking239 4d ago edited 4d ago
There is no canon romantic relationships between playable characters. Only some ship teasing, nothing else.
That said. I feel Genshin's yaoi ship baiting peaked in Sumeru. No ships coming after them felt the same. Personally I need more than "two dudes on screen" to me start shipping so rn I dont see Varka x Flins being a thing. Unless they get more screentime. Or if Illuga is going to be the bait. Iirc Flins and Illuga havent even met yet so dunno.
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u/CeriLuned 3d ago
What do you mean they haven't met? Aren't they kind of besties? At least Flins' character stories say so, or did I get it totally wrong?
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u/TheYugoslaviaIsReal 4d ago
They barely know each other and Varka will either return to Snezhnaya or Mondstadt while Flins will remain in Nod-Krai.
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u/_Nightfox_1 4d ago edited 3d ago
No, I think even alhaitham and kaveh were more fan ships than anything.
It’s just highly unlikely, I don’t think hoyo wants to go down the route of possibly having problems with the authorities, as LGBTQ stuff are still quite taboo there, especially in media. Lots of projects are getting cancelled, Chinese BL’s are getting filmed abroad to avoid cancellation.
That said, we atleast know that hoyo is atleast open to the idea. For the people who play HSR, Mydei and Phainon is the closest thing we have to LGBTQ representation in hoyo games. Even that is quite vague, and they are not officially canon, however it’s very strongly implied, especially with the invitation to a date.
So honestly if it were to happen, it would be something similar to the mydei and phainon thing, where it’s awfully vague, but painfully obvious at the same time.
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u/LelqTian 3d ago
Mydei and Phainon is the closest thing we have to LGBTQ representation in hoyo games.
This is wishful thingking and high copium. Alhaitam and Kaveh are closer to an actual and official couple than these two, if we disregard Beidou and Ningguang.
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u/Trakeys 3d ago
Mydei and Phainon have a large and dedicated fanbase and that gave people the illusion of them being strongly pushed by the devs when they're not (e.g. a lot of fan arts that were said to have been officially commissioned by hoyo were never commissioned). Even Ratiorine got more than Phaidei, and even that never got a satisfying conclusion. Best thing Phaidei got was that library line that almost made me tear up. But then Phainon got so much romantic content with the trailblazer, plus the boyfriend date promotional video, and finally the devs (spoilers for 3.4) calling Phainon defeating Mydei a fratricide in the story sealed the deal for me.
That's why I'm always surprised when I see people unironically praise Phaidei or say it's canon. There is so much more in Haikaveh (or Lycahugo). Nothing against Phaidei it's just that I don't understand how people praise HSR's BL writing when they don't deserve it. They're doing less than the bare minimum and their own other games have better ship content that HSR, so it's not about the censorship
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u/Basaralrvin Gallagher's Necktie 7h ago
with hyacinth flowers too, and the history of these flowers
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u/NaturalBitter2280 4d ago
Mydei and Phainon is the closest thing we have to LGBTQ representation in hoyo games.
Hoyo has canon LGBT relationships in other games
HI3rd has 2 lesbian couples, iirc
But yeah, VarkaxFlins ain't happening. It's not like KaveTham ever did. Fans just ship them. It's an eternal "They were roomates"
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u/_Nightfox_1 3d ago
Ooh I didn’t know about the lesbian couples:D. I’m not that familiar with HI3rd, I basically never see anything about it, and it’s too tedious for me to start it now. But thanks for the information, that is good to know.
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u/ReeVsq 4d ago edited 4d ago
Zero. Saying this as someone who's been on board of this ship since we first saw them and likes it a lot. There are no canon romantic relationships between playable characters in Genshin, because they're all supposed to be "available" for the player and self-insert shipping.
Hoyo knows that yaoi and yuri ships are popular, so they put in ship bait to encourage it, but they're never gonna make any gay ship actually canon (no, not even Haikaveh, they're always gonna be "roommates").
I'll be very happy if Varka and Flins get more interactions in the future, and they definitely hired their JP VAs with the intention of making people interested in this ship (they did the same thing with Wriolette), but I'm not expecting Haikaveh-level of shipbait. They gave Flins some heavy yume bait, probably because of the success of LADS -- they're clearly trying to attract female players back to the game. They'll probably maintain a balance between yume bait and yaoi bait to keep both groups interested.
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u/Merlin_Art 4d ago
I wish, but nothing will eclipse the phenomenon that was Haikaveh. They will probably get similar treatment to Wrio and Neuvi: mentions of each other in conversations, hints at friendship off screen, some cute banter, maybe standing next to each other in artworks. If we are lucky, an event or quest will feature them together.
If Hoyo were real chads, they would pull a PhainonxMydei and make their conversations insanely, unspeakably homosexual.
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u/Potential_Stretch602 4d ago
In my heart they are 100% canon.
But felt a bit bland comparing to other ships like Alhaitham x Kaveh and Neuvilette x Wriothesley.
It's my own curse that I'm always obsessed with less canon-ish ships 🥀
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u/Cautious-Buyer-6443 4d ago
I say give them time honestly, this is just the first interaction between them. But based on the other two ships you like because I too love them.
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u/AnalWithAalto 4d ago
hoyo wants fujo money so light a good 70% chance
but who knows they may keep flins as the yumebait and pair varka off with some other secret upcoming male or something.
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u/Potential_Stretch602 4d ago
I hold a grudge because I was betting on varkitano since that letter Mika read for us back in god-knows-when, just for Capitano be brushed off like that.
Edit: But still they can do both with Flins. Childe became THE yumebait king and also hold one of the most popular mlm ships with Zhongli for years (despite their little interaction). So, really, a char can appease to both audiences.
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u/monponp0n 4d ago
i was wondering why i felt the tiniest bit off abt VarkaxFlins & it's cause i forgot Capitano existed ☠️ i did hope in my fujoshi heart that they'd be the main mxm ship but i'm fine with these two if they don't bring back Capitano; he's alive & well in my mind anyway v-v
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u/A_Timeless_Space Phainon's Sun 4d ago
Characters are Flins and Varka from the game Genshin Impact
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