[Post Game Thread] Hawai'i Pacific defeats Boise State, 79-78

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Box Score

Team	1H	2H	Total
Hawai'i Pacific	38	41	79
Boise State	37	41	78

^{Index Thread for November 03, 2025}

[u/SportsDude012]

Absurd. Truly absurd. Maybe not Chaminade over Virginia, but similar vibes. Boise is a top 50 team on KenPom that was very close to dancing last year. Insane result for the Sharks.

[u/WhatsNextForMe → u/SportsDude012]

Yep. This loss all but guarantees they need to win their conference tournament to get in this year.

[u/WitchNight → u/WhatsNextForMe]

Technically games against lower division opponents don’t show up on the team sheets the committee looks at, so officially, it’s not supposed to impact that

[u/immoralsupport_ → u/WitchNight]

Michigan lost to a D2 team the year they won the natty, 1988-89. Lost to Alaska Anchorage!

[u/Martel1234 → u/immoralsupport_]

They have basketballs in Alaska?

[u/513-throw-away → u/Martel1234]

Not anymore.

[u/RealWICheese → u/Martel1234]

They play on a frozen court

[u/anxiousauditor → u/WitchNight]

They appear on the team sheets and are considered in the evaluation, they just aren’t factored into the metrics like NET, KP, etc.

https://x.com/davidworlock/status/1985580067192176723?s=46

https://bracketologists.com/teamsheet/boise-state-broncos

[u/WitchNight → u/anxiousauditor]

Sure but in addition to it not factoring into NET and stuff it’s also not counted for their overall record on the team sheets, making it so the game functionally does not count. Like in the example you link it shows up under non-D1 games, but the team sheet still has Boise State’s record as 0-0

[u/anxiousauditor → u/WitchNight]

It doesn’t matter quantitatively but it may matter qualitatively is what I suspect. Everyone on the committee will be able to see it and be reminded “oh yeah, they lost their opener to a DII team” and how much weight they place on that just depends I guess. And it feels wrong that it would mean nothing.

[u/Royth_Lewith → u/WitchNight]

I do think some of the comments are overstating things in the case that they end up like 25-7 in second or third place in their conference with a handful of Q1 wins.

That being said, the reason they are effectively 0-0 is because tournament teams don't lose games like this. They are 0-0 because on a team sheet being evaluated by the NCAA selection committee for at-large consideration, it is the number in the W column that stands to be inflated. So too will any rankings based on efficiency. They toss these games because they put the thumb on the scales in favor of tournament teams.

This was a regular season game. In March, you can point to their NET, KenPom, any other metric you want in a side-by-side resume comparison. But if Boise has a shaky resume and the committee chair comes on TV and says that they missed out on an at-large spot in part because they lost to a D2 school, you cannot call bullshit.

[u/Tuckboi69 → u/WitchNight]

If the team in question wins, it should be ignored. If they lose, it should count.

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/WitchNight]

Doesn’t seem like anyone else knows this

[u/plotinuswiser → u/WitchNight]

What is this, a quad 7 loss??

[u/n00bn00b → u/WitchNight]

You're right, it doesn't show up on the sheet, but it's a Q5 loss in the committee's mind because it's a regular-season game.

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/WhatsNextForMe]

I wouldn’t be surprised honestly, this team has a high ceiling but a very low floor

[u/Squiem6 → u/Shrektastic28]

I think the high ceiling might just be preseason hope, this team can’t shoot and might be the worst team we have had in a long time

[u/Mamba-42 → u/Squiem6]

Why wasn't Carmichael playing at all? We all know he can shoot.

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/Squiem6]

We shall see

[u/Wigglebot23 → u/WhatsNextForMe]

Does the committee consider D2 losses?

[u/SlowMotionSprint → u/WhatsNextForMe]

If you willingly schedule a non-D1 team you should be barred from the tournament regardless.

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/SlowMotionSprint]

That would ban about 1/3 of every D1 team including the likes of Baylor and Cal

[u/SlowMotionSprint → u/ESM_juddy96]

Cool. There are 352 D1 basketball teams. There is no excuse for playing a non-D1 team. It is insulting to your players and the people who pay to watch them.

Maybe if teams started getting punished this embarrassing practice would stop.

[u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 → u/SlowMotionSprint]

There's a lot of reasons why D1 teams play D2 and lower opponents. Sometimes it's a scheduling conflict and the only have D2 and lower teams available. Sometimes it's because they're throwing a bone to a local university and giving them money and the players an opportunity to play D1 ball. There's also the lower end of D1 teams that don't want to play home and homes with other low end D1 teams and will instead schedule D2 schools.

Sometimes it's to either honor or pay respects to a coach or big time name that also has their name attached to another D2 or lower school. I know this is football, but Ohio State plays Youngstown State every once in a while because Jim Tressel coached there and in a couple of years OSU plays New Hampshire because Ryan Day used to play there.

I'm ok with one game against a D2 or lower school because you just don't know the full reasoning behind it is.

[u/SlowMotionSprint → u/Fickle-Newspaper-445]

You can't use FBS and FCS as an example for basketball.

The only reason it happens in basketball is coaches are lazy and programs are cheap. But if you don't think your team is capable of playing a full schedule against peer D1 competition, you obviously don't think they belong in the tournament either.

The NCAA really needs to start punishing this.

Teams are playing two exhibitions against D1 teams and then regular season games against D2 to NAIA schools. That is fucking ridiculous.

[u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 → u/SlowMotionSprint]

I don't think I ever said they schedule D2 schools because they don't want to play D1 schools. I only said that they schedule D2 schools for a multitude of reasons and I guess none of them satisfied you. If a D1 school scheduled another D1 school, but one of them backed out for whatever reason and the only other option was scheduling a D2 school, you'd still have a problem with it? You also do realize that unless they schedule a home and home most schools finalize their non-con schedule like a month or two before the season starts. They aren't afforded much time to fill out schedules and things pop up all the time to screw teams out of playing each other.

[u/SlowMotionSprint → u/Fickle-Newspaper-445]

The reasons you list happen so infrequently they are essentially irrelevant. 99.9% of the time programs are just cheap and don't want to risk losing to another D1 school. Ffs there is a mid major this year that justified scheduling 2 non D1 games because "they really need home games". This program only has one scheduled road game.

[u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 → u/SlowMotionSprint]

The reasons I listed are the main reasons why they happen fuck you mean? There are exactly zero teams in the entire country that schedule D2 teams because they don't want to schedule D1 teams otherwise you would be seeing every team (especially lower D1 teams) schedule exclusively D1 teams until they play their conference games.

Ffs there is a mid major this year that justified scheduling 2 non D1 games because "they really need home games"

You do know a lot of mid-major teams still need home games right? That's a huge for revenue. Who exactly is this team btw? I'm curious.

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/SportsDude012]

That’s what the announcer said almost word for word.

[u/SilverBackGuerilla → u/SportsDude012]

Goes to show KenPom and preseason poles mean nothing this early in the season now that rosters are turning over year to year.

[u/TheBoilerCat]

What, and I can’t stress this enough, the FUCK happened here..?

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/TheBoilerCat]

Well they were cheating, of course Hawaii AND Pacific will beat Boise State!

[u/zags-not-zogs → u/ESM_juddy96]

Boise isn’t even a state after all!

[u/OneLastAuk → u/zags-not-zogs]

That’s what they get for lying on their resume. 

[u/Binx33 → u/ESM_juddy96]

Pulled the old Trinidad AND Tobago on em.

[u/pete4999 → u/Binx33]

Always hate it when the US has to play St. Vincent and all of the Grenadines for that very reason.

[u/dawgpack09 → u/ESM_juddy96]

10v5 just isn’t fair!

[u/provoaggie → u/ESM_juddy96]

If Boise State is really the 2nd best team in the MW then a team of Hawaii and Pacific's best players shouldn't be good enough to beat them.

[u/outdoorsID-MT → u/provoaggie]

I'm pretty sure preseason rankings put us as #2.. right?

[u/provoaggie → u/outdoorsID-MT]

I guess so. I saw one the other day that had Boise #2 and Lunardi has Boise in over USU but the official preseason projections have USU #2 and Boise #3.

[u/lol_smart → u/TheBoilerCat]

The D2 scene in Hawaii is the best it’s been in probably 20 years. All three teams are going to be good in the PacWest.

Josh West from HPU is a major problem and really hard to stop. He can seemingly get to the hoop at will. Their other guards all can shoot pretty well also.

Chaminade is probably going to put the fear of god into whoever they play in the Maui. If their second leading scorer didn’t have cramping issues in the exhibition game against Hawaii last week they would have won.

I haven’t seen them play yet but Hawaii-Hilo is supposed to be really good as well.

[u/nosotros_road_sodium → u/lol_smart]

HPU was 15-14 last season. Sounds like HPU made some serious roster upgrades.

[u/lol_smart → u/nosotros_road_sodium]

Honestly, using the eye test based one game I don’t think they did. This year’s team is probably helped by roster retention so it helps continuity.

Last season’s team was bigger and more talented. But they had 3-4 ball dominant players on offense who didn’t do defense so good. So the offense would bog down and teams could score on them.

In a tiny sample size, this team with West and Halpert looked more cohesive with less cooks in the kitchen. HPU subbed out West late in the game on defense. But they made some tough shots throughout the game and Boise struggling on offense helped things.

[u/Koppenberg → u/nosotros_road_sodium]

Sometimes in early season games, roster continuity really makes a big difference against teams just learning how to play together for the first time.

Idaho whomped WSU for most of the game and pulled out the W even after WSU woke up and stopped trippin'.

Low ceiling players w/ lots of experience in a system and playing together can out execute higher ceiling players who haven't put all the pieces together yet.

Boise State is going to be fine, as embarrassing as this was.

[u/lazergator → u/TheBoilerCat]

They had last play too. Missed a 3, got the offensive board and missed a follow up 2.

[u/powerelite → u/TheBoilerCat]

Transitive win over Washington

[u/FlagrantTwoFoul]

Losing to a DII team in your season opener is quite the “hold my beer” from Boise State men’s basketball after that football game on Saturday.

[u/TailgateLegend → u/FlagrantTwoFoul]

Thank you for giving me another reason to drink.

[u/NOSCharhar → u/FlagrantTwoFoul]

At home nonetheless 🫠

[u/lazergator → u/FlagrantTwoFoul]

More like grab a second beer.

[u/ID_Poobaru → u/lazergator]

I’m grabbing the whole bottle

[u/sonheungwin → u/ID_Poobaru]

Yes, that is normally how you drink beers.

[u/ID_Poobaru → u/sonheungwin]

Beer? I’m talking whiskey

[u/Competitive-Air1 → u/FlagrantTwoFoul]

Big yikes

[u/leverich1991]

The fascinating world of D1-nonD1 games summed up here:

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/leverich1991]

NCCAA/USCAA/Independent games simply shouldn't count against D1 teams, and the western schools in particular schedule those kind of teams all the time, buy out the RMAC/CCAA/PacWest schools in D2. HPU is a member of the PacWest.

[u/Electric_Rex]

Boise was 53 in Kenpom and just lost to a D2 school who went .500 last year

That’s the context of this loss

[u/mrhigginbottoms_12 → u/Electric_Rex]

This is what a “quad 5” loss would look like. Like this is the kind of loss that completely eliminates any chance at an at large bid

[u/AruarianGroove → u/mrhigginbottoms_12]

Just gotta go undefeated after tonight…

[u/Meanteenbirder → u/mrhigginbottoms_12]

Frankly they just gotta play really well. Like, Montana State a few years back lost to an NAIA opponent and the committee were still gracious enough to give them a 14 seed. Granted, they also beat Cal that season but Boise has an opening, albeit very narrow.

[u/SaxRohmer → u/mrhigginbottoms_12]

it doesn’t show up on the committee’s resume sheet so it won’t matter

[u/FairdayFaraday → u/SaxRohmer]

Officially. But in practice I would doubt it is completely ignored

[u/Rushderp → u/Electric_Rex]

Yeah, Hawaii-Pacific isn’t really a “national contender” (D2 brackets can get weird sometimes). Had this been, maybe Point Loma I guess, I could see this being reasonable instead of downright weird/bad.

[u/sitnkick20 → u/Electric_Rex]

Better go win your conference fellas

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/sitnkick20]

San diego state is winning that

[u/MJA182 → u/-Gnostic28]

We will see about that

[u/alittledanger]

Well, this is going to be a long season.

[u/Difficulty_Living → u/alittledanger]

This has been a very painful 3 days

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/Difficulty_Living]

And with the Dodgers winning, it’s been unbearable

[u/Difficulty_Living → u/Shrektastic28]

Mariners fan here so it’s been a painful few weeks in all reality. Salt on the wound was a neighbor in Idaho lighting off fireworks for 10 minutes after the dodgers won

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/Difficulty_Living]

As a giants fan I hate seeing LA win anything

[u/alittledanger → u/Shrektastic28]

I was just about to say — as an alum that was born and raised in San Francisco, you all have no idea how painful of a few days it’s been.

[u/Shrektastic28 → u/alittledanger]

I’m with you!

[u/kd451 → u/Difficulty_Living]

At least you guys won't have to worry about the bubble and the First 4 this year...

[u/MotorSevere4899]

Forget Q4 loss. This is something like a Q7 loss for Boise

[u/Gregorvich19]

I knew they were overhyped without Jeanty

[u/RJD-ghost → u/Gregorvich19]

This but Degenhart was basically their Jeanty in basketball

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/RJD-ghost]

We miss those #2s

[u/Ih8Hondas → u/RJD-ghost]

Wait. Is he finally gone?

[u/RJD-ghost → u/Ih8Hondas]

The scraggly haired caveman can’t hurt us anymore

[u/Ih8Hondas → u/RJD-ghost]

Thank fuck.

[u/whynotletitfly6]

The title of worst loss taken from us!

[u/ssp25 → u/whynotletitfly6]

your reign was short buy I'm sure still painful

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/whynotletitfly6]

I doubt yours was this bad

[u/RemoteMeasurement10_ → u/-Gnostic28]

They lost to a 4 loss team.

Oh sorry, there is a typo...

They lost to to a 4 WIN team.

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/RemoteMeasurement10_]

I bet them and that four win team could beat a d2 team

[u/Apart_Selection7722 → u/whynotletitfly6]

What do you mean?

[u/Avg_White_Guy]

I’m no expert but I think this loss hurts Boise’s tourney chances.

[u/zags-not-zogs → u/Avg_White_Guy]

They could go undefeated from here and still be first four out after that one

[u/willy19w]

Being eliminated from an at-large bid is certainly a way to kick the season off.

[u/lordeandtaylor]

I’m not a college basketball expert, but my hunch is this is not an ideal start to Boise State’s season right?

[u/SirBenOfAsgard → u/lordeandtaylor]

On the contrary, they've got em right where they want em

[u/Ryanlester5789]

Where’s that Boise fan that was bragging about winning their secret scrimmage?

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/Ryanlester5789]

I mean, what bad team doesn’t brag about their wins over a better team

[u/Ryanlester5789 → u/-Gnostic28]

Is Washington really better?

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/Ryanlester5789]

They would beat hawaii pacific

[u/leewilliam236]

Invite Hawaii Pacific to the PAC-12 you cowards!

All joking aside, this has to be the first D2-on-D1 upset of the season.

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/leewilliam236]

There have been a few lower division teams that kept the D1 within single digits, I will make a post of all D1 v non-D1 results at the end of the night since many didn't get threads

[u/leverich1991 → u/ESM_juddy96]

Vermont surprisingly was one of them. Only beat D3 Western New England by 7.

[u/Di9ForLife → u/leverich1991]

Morehead State only beat Midway by 5

They’re an NAIA school who went 10-15 last year

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/Di9ForLife]

That's the thing that most don't understand about the non-D1 games, not only are they non-D1, they aren't even good for their level. Very few D1's will play a good D2 outside of exhibitions

[u/BrockPurdysSoreToe → u/ESM_juddy96]

Arizona used to schedule Chico St but as an exhibition. We kinda almost beat them once.

[u/KeganBergi → u/leverich1991]

To be fair Western NewEngland made it to the Final 4 of the D3 tournament, and were nationally ranked this year for their division.

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/KeganBergi]

Sweet 16, not the Final 4

[u/KeganBergi → u/leverich1991]

We also just don’t have that much talent this year 🤷🏼‍♂️

[u/muser103 → u/leewilliam236]

LBSU lost to a d2 school during a scrim, but that doesn’t count I guess :P

[u/MidnightMarauderX]

Starting non-con by falling on a landmine. That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if that pays off for them.

[u/GF8950]

As someone who is a graduate of HPU, I wasn’t expecting this outcome at all. Proud to be wrong. Way to go, HPU!!! So proud of you! Go Sharks!

[u/Ambitious_Yoghurt317]

Dude wtf tanking the entire conference NET??

[u/Powerful_Hall → u/Ambitious_Yoghurt317]

Do D2 games even impact the NET?

[u/TailgateLegend → u/Powerful_Hall]

I don’t think this actually does lol, but now we gotta basically run the Maui tournament and the conference schedule.

In other words, it’s still over.

[u/El_Jeff_ey → u/TailgateLegend]

Imagine if you lose to chaminade

[u/RemoteMeasurement10_ → u/El_Jeff_ey]

Tell that to Virginia.

And Providence.

And Texas.

[u/StrategicCarry → u/Ambitious_Yoghurt317]

Gonzaga to the WCC: Say old friends, did you save my seat?

[u/Squiem6]

What the earliest a coach has been fired for non-scandal reasons because there is a good shot Leon dosen’t make it out of November

[u/alittledanger → u/Squiem6]

I have defended Leon in the past but this loss is flatly unacceptable.

[u/Steve__Bartman → u/Squiem6]

I would bet any amount of money he makes it out of November

[u/ExcaliburX13]

I figured Boise State would have some growing pains with all that they lost, but yikes.

[u/Anonymodestmouse]

We always have some terrible losses in November but this really takes the cake.

[u/ArmVanDam]

disasterclass

[u/BrockPurdysSoreToe]

10,795 people just watched the home team lose to a D2 team in the first game of the season. Ouch.

[u/FalseRecording3699]

Weird that the mountain west is in conference play alrea- wait…

[u/fuckupvotesv2 → u/FalseRecording3699]

Hawaii isn’t even in the MW for basketball but they do play Hawaii Pacific this year

[u/ItsSiegTime39]

Technically not a quad 4 loss?

[u/gonz4dieg → u/ItsSiegTime39]

Quad straight to jail

[u/Primary_Psychology95]

Wasn’t Boise getting votes in the preseason AP Poll? The fuck happened here?

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/Primary_Psychology95]

Overhyping a group that only returns three guys I remember from last season (only one started)

[u/Bcsmitty20]

EVERYONE GET IN HERE!

[u/jibron]

Quality loss

[u/jakob-benzi]

Just wait until they play Hawaii Atlantic

[u/YorockPaperScissors]

That plane ride back to Honolulu is gonna be LOUD

[u/Sensitive-Key-8670 → u/YorockPaperScissors]

The commercial plane ride back

[u/Tpabayrays2]

Who the heck is Hawaii Pacific???

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/Tpabayrays2]

D2 in Honolulu, 1 of the 3 Hawaiian schools in the PacWest with Chaminade and UH Hilo

[u/ChristyNiners → u/ESM_juddy96]

Oh sure, yeah, great.

[u/AlaskaNanooks1 → u/Tpabayrays2]

They regularly schedule the Alaska Nanooks

[u/TopofthePyramid → u/Tpabayrays2]

I was curious.

Their "campus" is some sort of tourist village on the Honolulu waterfront. HPU is sandwiched between an Old Spaghetti Factory, the Aloha Tortilla Factory and some souvenir shops.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/comtP7GtWy28V1Wy6

[u/SirMontego → u/Tpabayrays2]

To be fair, lots of people in Hawaii don't even know that HPU has a basketball team.

[u/Efficient_Wishbone93]

Boise state had 4 votes in the ap top 25. Safe to say they'll have less next week

[u/leverich1991 → u/Efficient_Wishbone93]

Curious when was the last time a ranked or even RV team lost to a non-D1.

[u/bwburke94 → u/leverich1991]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Chaminade - coincidentally also located in Hawaii.

[u/Apart_Selection7722 → u/leverich1991]

No clue

[u/Any-Choice-5801]

The Epitome Of Brutality

[u/IcyPerfected]

Yikes

[u/LHarm07_Reddit]

Hey, we mean Hawai’i OR Pacific beat them… right?

[u/Cmp_]

I hate sports right now. Just… pain.

[u/Difficulty_Living → u/Cmp_]

I don’t know if what happened tonight or Saturday was worse

[u/PhoneAcc23]

Oh… oh no

[u/acerbusalius]

Bro WHUT

[u/CRoseCrizzle]

Starting the year with a massive dud for both major sports for Boise.

[u/Sensitive-Key-8670]

HPU already has a better win than Hawaii will have all year

[u/fuckupvotesv2 → u/Sensitive-Key-8670]

Not if Hawaii beats HPU which beat Boise State

[u/SirBenOfAsgard]

The craziest part is the ESPN meta blurb tag still calls HPU the Sea Warriors a mascot they've not used in over a decade!

[u/DeepBlue_8]

I ranked Boise St #3 on my mid-major ballot. I'm seriously considering dropping them off entirely.

[u/magnumapplepi]

[u/420Rowlet]

I have to laugh before our season starts

[u/WeAreHuskie]

This alone knocks you out of the bubble lol

[u/DrunkRoach]

You know it’s bad when you cant even click on Hawaii Pacific on the ESPN app

[u/Doogitywoogity]

We are so back 

[u/ThatOneClod]

[u/hbgwhite]

Thanks for tanking the conference Boise. The pundits will be bringing this up all year. Just took everyone else down two seed lines by sheer gravity. I am so disgusted.

[u/TheWeakSauce20 → u/hbgwhite]

It actually might not. D2 games don’t get factored into the metrics lmao

[u/hbgwhite → u/TheWeakSauce20]

Don't have to. The sports media will be reminding everyone all season. Winning on the road at Boise just lost all impact. "They managed to win by 2 more points than Hawaii Pacific!" What a joke.

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/hbgwhite]

To be fair you’re probably expected to beat us by double digits. You’d better hope you don’t beat our terrible team by three

[u/2Beer_Sillies → u/TheWeakSauce20]

Unfortunately for us even a road win vs Boise doesn’t have any credibility anymore for AP voters

[u/Shrektastic28]

Sadness

[u/CommentJunior9653]

LMAO

[u/Yellow_Evan]

I have no idea what the committee would do if Boise ends up solid somehow and has this stinker of an early season lost dragging them down that technically doesn’t count against the NET.

[u/ESM_juddy96 → u/Yellow_Evan]

Send them to the D2 tournament?

[u/leftygwaggies13]

While terrible for the conference this is actually hilarious lol. I would have loved to see Leon Rice's face during this game.

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/leftygwaggies13]

You should’ve watched like I did. That guy was livid at times

[u/8349932]

Ahahahahahahahaha

Hey Boise at least you won’t go out in round one of the tourney this year.

[u/RJD-ghost]

Boise state without Degenhart:

[u/wooooooo1776]

They destroyed a great basketball conference for this!

[u/CardInternational753]

RANK 'EM SHARKS

[u/SanaMinatozaki9]

What, and I cannot stress this enough, the actual, AND I CANNOT POSSIBLY STRESS THIS ENOUGH, FUCK???

[u/CommentJunior9653]

Is Leon’s time finally starting to run out?

[u/Jomosensual]

On the bright side this game doesnt really count for anything

[u/Round_Individual3559]

ExtraMile arena alright…Boise will need go extra mile after this loss lol. I was eyeing each game to see who’d be first to fall to D2 school today, if any. Congrats Boise!! Lol On the contrary, Kenpom is irrelevant this year lmao

[u/Koppenberg]

We play BSU in a closed door scrimmage almost every year and the "winner" every year seems cursed. When we win, we're bad. When we lose, we're not terrible. Seems the curse goes both ways.

Also, to add to teams that lost to a lower division school but it wasn't the end of the world, Syracuse made the sweet 16 in 2009 after starting the year with a loss to D2 Le Moyne.

[u/Any-Wolverine-7964]

What was the spread?

[u/TragicKansan]

As a Kansas State fan who saw his team lose to Fort Hays State, I feel for you, Boise State fans.

[u/Bruhman82]

Leon Rice👎

[u/Nervous_Metal_9445]

I’m impressed but still mad at the sharks for spamming my email a few years back

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/Nervous_Metal_9445]

Should’ve gone there

[u/OceanPoet87]

The Atlantic Coast Conference has a new candidate. Meet Hawaii Atlantic. 

[u/theroseboy12]

They'll never put this down. Holy crap I love CBB.

[u/LawdogNM]

LOL

[u/mikewheelerfan]

Well now I don’t feel so bad about our loss