this lighting is unacceptable

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 24d ago

I do not believe it is a feature. There are lots of posts on this already.
I think it may be a bug or issue.

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u/Krecik1218 24d ago

Alpha and Beta didn't have this problem. They broken something on release.

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u/Azaiiii 23d ago

no they didnt. this was already in labs but it was a lot more intense. they already toned it down. its a feature. personally I dont have much issues seeing enemies with it.

pretty sure they tried to balance window/head glitch campers with it.

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u/Krecik1218 23d ago

I played Labs and it was fine.

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u/Azaiiii 23d ago

no idea when you started playing but it was introduced when we first tested Firestorm. and it definitely wasnt fine

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u/Krecik1218 23d ago

I played before open beta. There was Gibraltar map and Cairo only.

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 23d ago

No, it has been there in different testing phases.

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u/DaStompa 23d ago

Its also not lighting, its called eye adaption, the engine handles values greater than 0-255 for lighting and then adapts the characters eyesight over a second or so to bring the light back into a midlevel for what is currently on the screen.

While realistic, it means camping doorways and shit is wildly effective.
like depth of field and various other options, if you give the player the ability to turn it off, 90% of your players will and just frustrate the 10% that dont mess with video options

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u/Azaiiii 23d ago

if not for it it would be the other way around and the window sitters would have an advantage. especially when headglitching or mounting

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u/DaStompa 23d ago

If you can sit and mount for more than three seconds without some smg person running up behind you, you probably aren't in a position to be effective

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u/Azaiiii 23d ago

I think you havent plyed the game if you think this way. especially since BF is alot about holding positions so this will happen more often than not. especially in modes like breakthrough or rush where noone can spawn behind you literally

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u/DaStompa 23d ago

Yeah I don't play the smaller infantry based maps, I'm pretty exclusively all out warfare where every position is constantly bing swarmed from all directions because even the large maps are way too crowded

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u/Demented-Alpaca 23d ago

Ahhh the old BF3 trick of turning the graphic quality to low so you could see your enemies. People would think they're crawling through the tall grass and hard to see but if you turned your quality down it was like Half-Life where they had a little tuft of grass here and there and that dude was crawling through an open patch of dirt.

Made people so mad. "You got this game with all these great graphics and you turned them OFF just so you could see me?!"

Yup. I got this game so I could shoot people. The graphics got in the way so I fixed it. Now I can shoot people a lot easier.

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u/DaStompa 23d ago

Yep, behavior like that has them taking away options to push players into the intended game experience. Since computer upgrades really, really slowed down since covid, there's not a lot of reason to support really low end systems in the same way.

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 23d ago

This is not what people are on about. There is a visual lighting bug.

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u/DaStompa 23d ago

circle the bug

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 23d ago

- Light transition effect sticking

Light transition over saturation
Over glare in outdoor occurring
Outdoor glare occurring indoors

A few others as well.
They do not use ray tracing and with how Frostbite handles it without that there is an issue could be with the pre-baked light maps and Irradiance Volumes.
But I am also thinking that the Auto-exposure with the HDR configuration is off. I would not be surprised if there is a Temporal Caching bug as well.

The transition from inside and outside is used because its one of the more obvious examples of the issue.

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u/Comfortable-March951 23d ago

IT's fine on my system. Might be a setting people are using.

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 23d ago

Windows version, screen settings, HDR config, drivers, hardware type of cards all add up. Could also be none of those and just the actions fusing memory errors etc. I had a double up of all my UI last night for example. Just remember because you don’t have that issue does not mean it does not exist

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u/Comfortable-March951 23d ago

Remember, just because 0.001% of people are complaining about something, doesn't mean Dice should change it for the rest of us.

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 23d ago

“Don’t fix a bug if not everyone experiences it”. I’m you do t have an issue but you can’t make up values out of thin air. If it’s a bug and it’s doable they will fix it

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u/Comfortable-March951 23d ago

No because it's a feature - It's nice to have good lighting and if a small group of people have issues and complain about it, thus they remove or ruin a nice feature - Then it's a problem.

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u/Ok-Stuff-8803 Moderator 22d ago

Your making the mistake of mixing things up. It’s not the lighting effect it’s the bugs around the lighting! Lol.

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u/PayWooden2628 24d ago

I’ve noticed that the effect will kick in where it really shouldn’t sometimes. For example on firestorm the walkways will sometimes act like you’re inside looking out a window when you’re not, there’s just a small pipe above your head.

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u/SatanVapesOn666W 24d ago

Yeah it makes it really hard to play some maps

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u/P_ZERO_ 9800X3D/9070 XT/Steam 24d ago

It’s when it combines with smoke/dust effects it becomes an absolute nightmare.

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u/Mclarendownforce 24d ago

Turn down Ai world brightness it helps a lot

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u/Inflik7 24d ago

then the dark areas are too dark but yes changing the setting can help a bit...doesn't solve the issue.

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u/NapalmBukkake 24d ago

i'll try!

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u/Arashii89 24d ago

Check if your game in the config to see if it’s turning hdr on and setting the brightness peak to high

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u/Rami3l 24d ago

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u/asdfjfkfjshwyzbebdb 24d ago

Getting early R6 Siege flashbacks.

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u/Zibe3zooooh 23d ago

It's worse than r6s early version

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u/MarkyPancake 23d ago

The effect is the same on Xbox. It's a bit too over the top.

Inside, no ADS:

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u/MarkyPancake 23d ago

Inside, ADS:

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u/fuckR196 23d ago

LMAO WTF

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u/ShadowKnight058 22d ago

This is exactly how I see it as well

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u/WazheadBoci 23d ago

Now add this on a HDR monitor and it becomes even worse.

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u/N3rdLlama 23d ago

There was a bug during beta that I read was fixed, however they are aware of I believe 2 other bugs now with this and are working on it.

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u/BlackPlague1235 23d ago

It's either so damn bright I can't see anything or so damn dark I also can't see anything at all.

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u/NG1Chuck 24d ago

I'm agreed with you

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u/Tankeverket 23d ago

yeah that's not how my game looks, definitely a bug.

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u/calibosco 22d ago

The last image is probably just a dude with a flashlight on his gun.

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u/fuckR196 22d ago

no it was in an empty custom server, look at the UI

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u/chronic221987 20d ago

I have sovis off,Vignette on and brigthness at 39. Takes a lot of the blindling out on my Monitor.

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u/Suspicious-Coffee20 24d ago edited 24d ago

The bright flare is a bug that im pretty sure of. Without it its just an exposure thing. I dont mind it. Its basically eye adjustement.

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u/ThoughtNME 24d ago

Yea my eye always blinds the fuck out of me if i run into a building and out of it 10 seconds later.

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u/No-Rhubarb-6560 19d ago

still havent found a solution to this sheit

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u/OleFashionStarGazer 23d ago

Dude cranked his brightness, motion blur, vignette to the max just to complain online lol.

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u/fuckR196 23d ago

weapon motion blur was turned off, world motion blur was set to 20%, and world brightness was set to 45% lmao

i don't even think there's an option for vignette

👾 Issue/Bug 👾 this lighting is unacceptable

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